hybridway2
Amare Shill
No, i know, my bad. To a new reader that scans through it comes off as a statement before getting to the ?
No biggie. My bad! We good...?
Provided you pic above.
which led would you choose hlg spider
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No biggie. My bad! We good...?
Provided you pic above.
Airwalker16
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Okay, so the IR UV IR placement is the only set of 3 in the bar? The rest are all sets of 2?
What bar is in your avatar with 3?
What bar is in your avatar with 3?
hybridway2
Amare Shill
Almost. There are x6, UVA's going down the bar, each having a Set of IR's next to it. So, x12, IR's.
There will be glass covers available in clear or frosted too.
My Avatar is the Bar-8 Canna-Spec.
Dunno if you saw this fully submerged, beat around Bar-6 Demo model with a cracked bar from shipping?
Works fine still!
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Airwalker16
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So the "UV" diodes x6 are different nm right? It really looks like 2 430 and 4 385s.
Also, what's tgecmain differences between this LUV bar and the Bar8? Is it the sets of 3 diodes down the strip vs 2?
andymex
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I see the HlG 550v2 Rspec is winning. In my opinion that panel is to small(26" x 20"), I think you want to use it to light a 4x4 tent or something like that, for that purpose you could buy 3 sets of qb132 and 2 HLG-320H-C1400 drivers and connect 6 in series in each driver. That way you would have a 2.79umole/Js efficiency, this is great efficiency and you would also have great light distribution. For the 3 sets of QB 132 you would pay $405 and for the 2 drivers $172 for a total of $577. You would also need to buy some wagon and build a frame but you would get an awesome light with super efficiency and distribution for less than $600. This particular setup would run at 564 watts and have a ppfd =(564x2.79)/1.49=1056ppfd. Much higher than the hlg 550 v2 rspec.
hybridway2
Amare Shill
No, that's just from phone pic. I wish but not yet feasible & by the time it is the Optisolis or something else Broader will have replaced many monos, but not all for quite awhile. Its 380nm.
The Bar-8 is a Professional System whereas this Bar-6 LUV is the Hobbyist or Home-Grower version designed to outlast & outperform Gavita + Fluence for the same cost with more options & diversity by having the ability to have x2 individual, dimmable, remote drivers & a far better spectrum.
The Bar-8 is the GOAT of LED rn unless anyone can show me something remotely close? Its next upgrade is the IR/Flash & UVA coming soon.
Available at 1.26/w or 1.63/w in terms of $.
Airwalker16
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He wouldn't have that many diodes, though, they would indeed be very evenly spread over the ENTIRE area.
andymex
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Hoe could build something like this,
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andymex
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I agree they are not so many diodes but I believe that the lower density of diodes in the pcb is very convenient , I compared the qb 132 efficiency to the qb288, both from hlg and see this
If I run the qb 132 at 1400ma I get a total of 47 watts in 132 diodes so .35 watts per diode the efficiency at this wattage is 2.79umole/Js
I you run the qb288 Rspec at 2100ma you get 102 watts in 288 diodes so the same .35 watts per diode but the qb 288 only gives 2.63umoles/Js !!!
This last part is crazy for me, the spec has 660nm so it should be more efficient not less. The only explanation I can find is that the lower density of diodes in the pcb makes them run more efficiently, this is the same reason that the qb132 do not need a heatsink, they are actually bigger than the qb288.
andymex
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Ad still more diodes that the HlG 550 that has 4x288= 1152 diodes, 12x132=1584 diodes
Gardenator
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Okay that makes way more sense now lol
Airwalker16
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No, because the UVs are definitely not dimming in your photo. You can tell plain as day. If they were, the spectrum wouldn't be BLURPLE. The fact that UV/IR/FR all have switches to turn them on or off is even more proof they don't dim.
Gardenator
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Your r&d'ing for an over priced led company promoting a commercial light to a bunch of home growers on budgets for 90% of the posts you promote these amare lights on, i did read on through aftwerwards and noted your corrections to the thread, post my reply... nice looking lights though and at 950 still over priced party lights that only fit one commercial profile for flowering square footage, commercially designed around hydroponic table dimensions and priced just like hydro equipment- hardware store sells everything a hydro store does at half the cost lol, and this light technology exists for way less money. So in the end thats a pile of money wasted on something easily diy'ed by someone with little to no electrical experience or led experience... you sir are the amateur and your marketing skills is what im referring to.
and he's developing a Bar 3
I like it. I especially like that you staggared the spectrums to provide a more balanced spread. I suggested this to Amare way back when, but SMDs are a vg option and cheaper for mass maketing applications, like Amare.
AFAIK the MSRP $1695 was for the Bar 8, but we get a 25% discount, so....as far as having return issues via Alibaba, good luck. IF they will allow an exchange you have to send your light back first (on your dime) then wait weeks/months... so...
Burply light is perfectly fine for early veg typically less than 2 weeks before cranking it up
How can you compare a panel light (HLG or SF) to a bar light? Panels will trap heat and humidity in the canopy area (which COULD also shorten life expectancy). And why I recommend 2-4 SF 1000s, so they can be spread to allow heat/humidity to rise between them
Gardenator
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Easily fixed by air flow and good exhaust/intake air exchange system and again Amare lights are designed around grow tents and commercial tables with no customization options besides the amount of bars on a track... i can see it being an issue in a tent but not properly exhausted and sufficient airflow in the tent/space... also ac unit can easily solve the heat issue, all of these solutions are less then the amare lights so in the end again even if the problems arise they can be simply fixed at a very reasonable cost... not enough of a reason to conform to this commercial light company only interested in making money not making quality grow lights... you guys buy them and do all their home work on what it lacks and where they exceeds for them and get no compensation besides 25% off of an already way over priced light fixture for all of your hard work and time invested... makes no sense with all the research you guys have and time invested in this to turn around and buy a light you have no control over design or enhancements... the smaller sf-1000's makes sense but cost more and is less efficient, 2 of the smaller sf-2000's would be better in efficiency but still costs more again so in the end the initial question is more bang for buck and Amare is more buck then bang next to every light that was on the list to begin with
hybridway2
Amare Shill
That is not true either. Lol! Only the uv has a switch on this demo model. Uv will be on a dimmer too. All the rest dim.
Where are these switches you refer to?
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Gardenator
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This is pointless hybryd, you say lost but heat in a room is taken care of by an ac or a good air exchange system and sufficient airflow, fact, your amare lights are expensive also fact, more expensive then any light asked about and again also fact, as far as what harvest can be produced under a light yours makes too little difference to make up its added cost compared next to what the other lights will produce again a fact, what do you pull from a bar 6, how about a bar 8? Question again was whats more bang for less buck not more buck for same bang... im not saying your lights dont grow but it doesnt fit the budget clearly or it would not have been asked ahead of purchase on a weed growing forum, they are trying to save money and get some decent yeild... if they had said whats the most expensive light i can buy right now for the same yeild then by all means promote these things to people who dont care about the budget... ps i have not relisted any facts you posted about your light i gave examples of dollar amounts and compared costs, even your bar 6 isnt worth its dollar amount to wattage output and its rediculously priced (thats all i ever said about the amare lights, never once said they didnt work well now did i, must be you feel like defending it for a reason?) Again here you are basically pushing this light down the neck of this thread and not allowing anyone to make up there own mind, you spend your entire time on here trolling around like a digital snake waiting to spew your venom anytime someone doesnt agree with you.
Gardenator
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I never said bars run hotter i simply explained that heat can be easily removed from a room or a tent with sufficient exhaust and airflow, pretty simple well known fact for anyone who has ever grown indoors... never mentioned a single temperature or which one was hotter then the other, you are the only one listing any actual specifications for your lights in some attempt to save face that didnt need saving in the first place, look at the words homie you are the only one putting anyone or anything down, your amare's are still more expensive then any light mentioned hands down and hands down doesnt out produce any other mentioned light weight wise to ever in a million years excuse the fact it costs twice or three times as much (thats called being inefficient in business, your lights dont grow enough to make up for the extra over head, that is simple fucking math) and at an added $400-600 per light thats money lossed per pound grown and if its not getting sold its more money spent towards the same harvest again just a loss in over head spent to grow the herb, pound per dollar these lights wouldnt make a budget or a big order, these are test lights for homegrowers because a real company would put up de's call it a day and produce real weight something you clearly know nothing about, your efficiency talks would be a little different if you needed 10 lights, 10g's and for what? No more weight then 10 de's and those at 3g's per 10 is a much more efficient buy and way less over head, simple equation and solution...
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