I'v lost control,can't figure out issues and need assistance please

2Hearts

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Transplant to next size up pot, plastic not clay, in ffof or similar and do nothing but learn to water right and she should grow healthy and fast. It wont get any easier if you ph and give ferts and stuff.
 

Pungent one

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Transplant to next size up pot, plastic not clay, in ffof or similar and do nothing but learn to water right and she should grow healthy and fast. It wont get any easier if you ph and give ferts and stuff.
FFOF? And just give them water throughout there life,no ferts and don't ph the soil?? Help me understand better mate,how will they grow correctly if ph balance is off?
 

hotrodharley

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FFOF? And just give them water throughout there life,no ferts and don't ph the soil?? Help me understand better mate,how will they grow correctly if ph balance is off?
Yes you can do the entire grow with little to none in the way of nutes. I’ve done it. But it’s sure hot at the first. People often see the signs but figure it’s a deficiency instead of an excess or toxicity. Adjust your pH on your feeds and water and forget runoff pH.
 

Pungent one

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Any of the reputable potting soils available. Fox farms ocean forest is just one thats heavily reviewed as good shit. I heard it mentioned ffof.
Oh right,i got you but as i have no money atm the ridiculous organic soil i have now will have to do,it seems im just gonna have to tweak a few things to straighten this out.
 

Pungent one

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Those reusable shopping bags work perfectly for our purposes. Very cheap, durable and have handles.
I did some youtubing but didn't see those types of bags being used,i wanna try but confused on how and doesn't the bag have to be dark so the roots don't get light?
 

Pungent one

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Yes you can do the entire grow with little to none in the way of nutes. I’ve done it. But it’s sure hot at the first. People often see the signs but figure it’s a deficiency instead of an excess or toxicity. Adjust your pH on your feeds and water and forget runoff pH.
Ferts ect,do they not improve and increase potency and yield?
 

Pungent one

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Those reusable shopping bags work perfectly for our purposes. Very cheap, durable and have handles.
I need to find something similar to the plastic bag strategy,my tent is only 24"x24" and 9 girls from bag seed and just waiting to determine sex so i can get rid of males and place females into smart pots,so those bags will be way to big for the grow room,maybe dark plastic cups or something similar?
 

hotrodharley

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I need to find something similar to the plastic bag strategy,my tent is only 24"x24" and 9 girls from bag seed and just waiting to determine sex so i can get rid of males and place females into smart pots,so those bags will be way to big for the grow room,maybe dark plastic cups or something similar?
Again picture those reusable shopping bags from the grocery store eh? Rectangular base. You can line those up like soldiers. No rootbinding. Hard to overwater but damned sure not impossible.

Personally I go from Dixie to 1.7 litre plastic planters then to the final grow bag. But to sex them out by growing until showing I suggest reusable. Cheap and everywhere.
 

hotrodharley

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Ferts ect,do they not improve and increase potency and yield?
I only apply nutes to soils like that if the plant starts to show deficiency. I did find with OF I had to supplement cal mag about a month into flower. With multiple strains. No biggie. I also gave a couple of bloom feedings. The first when I did the cal mag and that was 1/4 the recommended strength. The second about 3 weeks before I planned to chop and at 1/2 strength and cal mag. But there’s guys who push it and I’m sure could tweak more out of it.

I just switched to Pro Mix and never looked back. That was 2012. $35 a bale in Alaska. $65 now.
 

Pungent one

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Again picture those reusable shopping bags from the grocery store eh? Rectangular base. You can line those up like soldiers. No rootbinding. Hard to overwater but damned sure not impossible.

Personally I go from Dixie to 1.7 litre plastic planters then to the final grow bag. But to sex them out by growing until showing I suggest reusable. Cheap and everywhere.
Oh wow me and my tired ass,for some reason i kept thinking "plastic bag" lol but after this reply i understood a bit better lmao
 

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Doug Dawson

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Im gonna have to try and survive the best i can without it,i have no fund's do to this stupid ass pandemic.
Hello, I sympathize with your problem. I imagine it is very frustrating getting into a grow just to have your funds dry up when you need something. Sadly it is a state many are sharing right now. I was lucky enough to purchase everything I needed just prior to the pandemic for my first grow so I count my blessings. PH is incredibly important for a plant. Perhaps there is somone on this forum that lives near you and may be able to help? I am in Ontario, Canada if that helps any? If you don't get your PH set correctly you will continue to have issues, hopefully someone can help you temporarliy until this planetary disaster passes. You have likely seen this but here is a great chart that explains the importance of your PH. Good luck and if you are near me let me know, perhaps I can help you with somehting to dial in your PH.
 

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Dannydavito

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Wonderful
Btw I'm pretty sure you ARE using the 3 way pH meter incorrectly. If you read the instructions it says to perform what's called a slurry test. I guess you take a small soil sample, mix it with water until it becomes mud, then use the tester. I dont think they can measure pH unless you use them this way. Not that they are incredibly accurate but it's worth a try.
Also most hydro stores carry a kit which comes with pH up, pH down, a liquid test reagent, and a vial to test in. It's most likely more accurate than the 3 way meters and it'll only run you about 20 bucks.
 
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