Tips of leafs with burning

Skyhound

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I mean due to overfeeding it's thrown off the balance of your media, it's caused by salt build up and unbalanced ratios of nutrients. Probably not necessary to flush at this point but I would back off the ppm's some and when you feed make sure you're getting at least 20% runoff to wash away residual salts. Should get things right again for ya.
i understand what u are saying macsnax . The problem is that when the burning tips started i was watering 2 times a week , one with feed one with plain water and the feeding water was at half potency , thats whats weird about this .
 

macsnax

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BB doesnt leave salts in the soil. Also, ppm has noting to do with BB nutes. Maybe (& I dont know) people building their organic soil, nutes from scratch, it might. As for flushing, BB says never flush the soil or just feed with water. The ph of the soil is thrown out & it has to reset itself.
Shit man idk how you burned your tips like that with something organic. Is the formula chelated? Because that's not really organic
 

Skyhound

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BB doesnt leave salts in the soil. Also, ppm has noting to do with BB nutes. Maybe (& I dont know) people building their organic soil, nutes from scratch, it might. As for flushing, BB says never flush the soil or just feed with water. The ph of the soil is thrown out & it has to reset itself.
Kilbarrack i read a discussion with a BB staff member that said to feed always to not unbalance soil , so if i do 2 waters a week i give 50% of recommend biobizz chart making in a week a full dose , do u agree with this watering method ?
 

macsnax

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Something is definitely out of whack. How many products are you using? Do they have a bloom formula? Did this start when you started the bloom formula.
 

Skyhound

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Something is definitely out of whack. How many products are you using? Do they have a bloom formula? Did this start when you started the bloom formula.
This started on week 5 final week of vegetation and the trigger was correcting the ph that was wrong up until then ( 5.0 since seedling ), it solved all problems ( claw , cannoing ) but brought some burned tips
 

macsnax

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yes sure , this is all the products i use





So "bottles" being the key word here, means it's chelated. Which means it's not truly organic and you can burn your plants with it as well. If they say that you should feed every watering to keep your soil balanced, that's what I would be doing.
 

macsnax

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This started on week 5 final week of vegetation and the trigger was correcting the ph that was wrong up until then ( 5.0 since seedling ), it solved all problems ( claw , cannoing ) but brought some burned tips
5 is low lol. Could just be that your plants aren't used to pulling up the amount of nutrients they are with the corrected pH. Is it getting worse it staying the same. They're a little depleted of N as well bud.
 

Skyhound

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So "bottles" being the key word here, means it's chelated. Which means it's not truly organic and you can burn your plants with it as well. If they say that you should feed every watering to keep your soil balanced, that's what I would be doing.
im sorry i cant find on google the true meaning of chelated , but i know this nutrients can burn , thats why i started with half recommended dose , but to put my self in a situation more clear to you , i followed diaries of this specific genetics and many of them were using biobizz nuts with 100% the recommended dose and they got beautiful plants , this burn started when i was only using half dose and didnt seem to increase at least a lot with 100% nuts
 

Skyhound

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5 is low lol. Could just be that your plants aren't used to pulling up the amount of nutrients they are with the corrected pH. Is it getting worse it staying the same. They're a little depleted of N as well bud.
ok that makes a loot of sense to me , 5.0 ph locked out nitrogen until week 5 thats for sure , and maybe the corrected ph made the burn , but why u say its depleted is because low leafs got yellow to soon right ? also what u mean 5 is low ? i work with a 60x60x160 cm tent cant grow them to tall and i even fim
 

macsnax

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im sorry i cant find on google the true meaning of chelated , but i know this nutrients can burn , thats why i started with half recommended dose , but to put my self in a situation more clear to you , i followed diaries of this specific genetics and many of them were using biobizz nuts with 100% the recommended dose and they got beautiful plants , this burn started when i was only using half dose and didnt seem to increase at least a lot with 100% nuts
So you're probably good to move forward with the recommended feed schedule. The damage had been done and you've corrected it. If it gets worse, then worry. But likely what I explained in my last post is the case. I would follow the directions for feeding everytime to keep things balanced and don't let your pH drop again lol
 

hotrodharley

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I recommend a secondary ph test like GH drops or some good test strips. I been fooled way too many times by pens, I don’t have pens anymore. I’m not familiar with bio bizz either. Just eye balls lol.
I’ve gone to straight litmus paper. It’s more than adequate for our needs including hydro. Save your money for a good EC meter and learn to use it.
 

macsnax

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"Chelation is a type of bonding of ions and molecules to metal ions. It involves the formation or presence of two or more separate coordinate bonds between a polydentate ligand and a single central atom. These ligands are called chelants, chelators, chelating agents, or sequestering agents."

In short it makes these nutrients available to the plant. Rather than an organic amendment that takes time to naturally break down to become available.
 

J232

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Ok I might be getting old but... bio bizz is organic dirt? That he is using 1/2 recommended dose which is frequency of watering?
 

Skyhound

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"Chelation is a type of bonding of ions and molecules to metal ions. It involves the formation or presence of two or more separate coordinate bonds between a polydentate ligand and a single central atom. These ligands are called chelants, chelators, chelating agents, or sequestering agents."

In short it makes these nutrients available to the plant. Rather than an organic amendment that takes time to naturally break down to become available.
thank you

macsnax said:
5 is low lol. Could just be that your plants aren't used to pulling up the amount of nutrients they are with the corrected pH. Is it getting worse it staying the same. They're a little depleted of N as well bud.
ok that makes a loot of sense to me , 5.0 ph locked out nitrogen until week 5 thats for sure , and maybe the corrected ph made the burn , but why u say its depleted is because low leafs got yellow to soon right ? also what u mean 5 is low ? i work with a 60x60x160 cm tent cant grow them to tall and i even fim
 

macsnax

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Ok I might be getting old but... bio bizz is organic dirt? That he is using 1/2 recommended dose which is frequency of watering?
Apparently they have a nute line, he posted all the bottles he's using above ^^^
 

J232

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Apparently they have a nute line, he posted all the bottles he's using above ^^^
Lol... reading back threw, I’m too high to think that hard now, feed, feed water. Feeding but never flush, I’m having flash backs to super soil or ph perfect days man. Time for a nap.
 

macsnax

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thank you


ok that makes a loot of sense to me , 5.0 ph locked out nitrogen until week 5 thats for sure , and maybe the corrected ph made the burn , but why u say its depleted is because low leafs got yellow to soon right ? also what u mean 5 is low ? i work with a 60x60x160 cm tent cant grow them to tall and i even fim
The shade of green to your leaves tell me they need more N. And I just meant 5.0 pH is low.
 
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