ILGM GG#4 (fem photo)

[Hawg Wild]

I'm far from a "naive kid". I'm in my mid 40s and honestly don't give a shit about half of the boutique strains growers drool over. Everything I've grown from ILGM seeds has been far better quality than any mids I've had. I might care more about the name on the seed pack if I were growing commercially but I grow for myself, and friends, and we've been more than happy with the quality of the flower I've produced.

Sweet! I guess you kinda did know seed sellers had fanboys then?

 

[KK26]

There's a ton of honest seedbanks and breeders with legit genetics. Great Lakes Genetics, DC Seed Exchange, Greenpoint, The Seed Bazaar, and probably 20 others I could rattle off the top of my head if I felt like taking the time to think about it. The only European banks I'll still deal with on occasion at all are Seedheaven and, very rarely, Seedsman for autos. Also a good number of legit breeders who sell direct on IG or on their own websites.

All American hyp

I was once a naive kid who believed in High Times centerfolds and Cannabis Cup winners too. We all either eventually figure it out or just keep smoking mids for our whole lives. To each his own.

You're all wasting your time with this fellow.

Everything anyone else grows which is not from the USA is shit mids.

Mids smids FFS!

Seriously really

 

[Hawg Wild]

All American hyp

You're all wasting your time with this fellow.

Everything anyone else grows which is not from the USA is shit mids.

Mids smids FFS!

Seriously really

You dumb fuck, there are a number of great European breeders like Shantibaba, Nevil R.I.P., Karma, Lala, Santero, Eskobar (formerly), Simon, Cristalin,.... Sannie has done some decent work here and there... so many more I'm leaving out.... just not the dumbasses you like to buy junk seed from. Derry from Barney's has never grown a plant in his life. Arjan isn't a breeder either. "Robert Bergman" doesn't even exist. They are marketeers and you've bought in to their marketing hook, line, and sinker.

 

[Hawg Wild]

Many other well-respected and accomplished breeders throughout the world who have brought great genetics to the masses, as well. You just don't know anything about them because they don't buy Cannabis Cups and High Times features.

 

[Hawg Wild]

Funny how I gave you knuckleheads truthful information and didn't push any seedbank or breeder or country and you guys get all butthurt in defense of your fake overpriced, overhyped boof seed dealer. I stand by my original post. ILGM is a scam. You're welcome to keep being ripped off with fake genetics and muddying up the cannabis gene pool with renamed garbage if you so choose. Hopefully you're at least enough of a custodian of the plant not to pass the fake genetics off to others as whatever trendy clone-only name they print on the seed pack to get your money.

 

[.Smoke]

Love it.

"We're all in this together BS".

Us stoners can't even play nice and get along.

My 2 cents. I never had a complaint from anyone who's smoked with me. Good enough.

It's all in the eye of the beholder to begin with right?

 

[TreeFarmerCharlie]

You dumb fuck, there are a number of great European breeders like Shantibaba, Nevil R.I.P., Karma, Lala, Santero, Eskobar (formerly), Simon, Cristalin,.... Sannie has done some decent work here and there... so many more I'm leaving out.... just not the dumbasses you like to buy junk seed from. Derry from Barney's has never grown a plant in his life. Arjan isn't a breeder either. "Robert Bergman" doesn't even exist. They are marketeers and you've bought in to their marketing hook, line, and sinker.

Serious question...
Why do you even care about what anyone else grows if they are happy with what they are growing. The vast majority of hobbiest growers don't care about the genetic linage of the seeds they order online as long as they get good results from a seller who stands by their product.

 

[Hawg Wild]

Serious question...
Why do you even care about what anyone else grows if they are happy with what they are growing. The vast majority of hobbiest growers don't care about the genetic linage of the seeds they order online as long as they get good results from a seller who stands by their product.

I care about the preservation of the gene pool and the unique expressions therein. I don't give two shits what you smoke. But when you give 3 of your buddies your "Cookies" cut or your "Malawi Gold" or whatever and it starts making its way around, as these things do, then it isn't long before the next pollen chucker in line ends up breeding with the shit.

 

[TreeFarmerCharlie]

I care about the preservation of the gene pool and the unique expressions therein. I don't give two shits what you smoke. But when you give 3 of your buddies your "Cookies" cut or your "Malawi Gold" or whatever and it starts making its way around, as these things do, then it isn't long before the next pollen chucker in line ends up breeding with the shit.

I hate to be the one to break it to you, but the cannabis "gene pool" wasn't properly managed from the beginning, and it has been polluted for a long time.

 

[Hawg Wild]

I hate to be the one to break it to you, but the cannabis "gene pool" wasn't properly managed from the beginning, and it has been polluted for a long time.

No shit... so what's your problem with wanting to preserve what's left of it and keep more recent strains pure? Not everyone wants ILGM Afghani x generic Skunk x generic NL x Dinafem OG contaminating what we have left to work with.

 

[MY OWN DANK]

Man ive taken seeds from brick weed n produced str8 fire...alot of it comes down to the grower...yeah i expected more resin production from the infamous GG#4...i have one goin too from Southern Oregon Seeds...looks mediocre at best so far to me...im not as impressed as i thought i would be...ive had this disappointment before with seeds, its kinda a crap shoot right??, with the diff phenos n all...SOS is kinda my honey hole for seeds ive found alotta keepers from packs from him...if i was into cloning I'd be good but i like seeds n i like a variety so ima keep poppin em n let the bad ones fade in the rearview n remember the good'ns....

 

[Hawg Wild]

Man ive taken seeds from brick weed n produced str8 fire...alot of it comes down to the grower...yeah i expected more resin production from the infamous GG#4...i have one goin too from Southern Oregon Seeds...looks mediocre at best so far to me...im not as impressed as i thought i would be...ive had this disappointment before with seeds, its kinda a crap shoot right??, with the diff phenos n all...SOS is kinda my honey hole for seeds ive found alotta keepers from packs from him...if i was into cloning I'd be good but i like seeds n i like a variety so ima keep poppin em n let the bad ones fade in the rearview n remember the good'ns....

GG#4 is a clone-only. There are no GG#4 seeds period. There were Gorilla Glue seeds, which is what the #4 came out of. And there have been GG#4 s1s made from verified cuts a time or two, but definitely not by any Robert fucking Bergman.

 

[TreeFarmerCharlie]

No shit... so what's your problem with wanting to preserve what's left of it and keep more recent strains pure? Not everyone wants ILGM Afghani x generic Skunk x generic NL x Dinafem OG contaminating what we have left to work with.

Because most of these well known hybrids are more hype than anything, IMO.

 

[MY OWN DANK]

GG#4 is a clone-only. There are no GG#4 seeds period. There were Gorilla Glue seeds, which is what the #4 came out of. And there have been GG#4 s1s made from verified cuts a time or two, but definitely not by any Robert fucking Bergman.

Yes i understand how that works...it is a shame that they mislabel them

 

[Hawg Wild]

Because most of these well known hybrids are more hype than anything, IMO.

You're right. But I'm not just talking about hyped cuts. I'm talking about all the pure lines out there and all the people around the world working hard to keep them that way having to constantly deal with sorting through 9-week Acapulco Golds and other stupid crap because you and others like you care more about marketing hype that's actually super fucking transparent to anyone who has been around the internet cannabis scene for any length of time. It's like watching a bunch sheep being led around in a circle in and out of the corrals to be sheared again and again, leaving a trail of feces in their wake... except their fucking shit gets all over everyone else too.

 

[TreeFarmerCharlie]

You're right. But I'm not just talking about hyped cuts. I'm talking about all the pure lines out there and all the people around the world working hard to keep them that way having to constantly deal with sorting through 9-week Acapulco Golds and other stupid crap because you and others like you care more about marketing hype that's actually super fucking transparent to anyone who has been around the internet cannabis scene for any length of time. It's like watching a bunch sheep being led around in a circle in and out of the corrals to be sheared again and again, leaving a trail of feces in their wake... except their fucking shit gets all over everyone else too.

Where did you get the idea that I care about marketing hype at all? I went with ILGM when I started because they were the much more responsive to my questions than other suppliers I contacted and made it easy for me to pay. I returned to them because of those reasons and also because I've had zero issues with their seeds and have been happy with the plants they produced. That seems to me to be quite the opposite of me going with them because they are good at marketing.

 

[Hawg Wild]

Fake genetics that often cost as much or more than the real thing, sold by a customer service company that doesn't grow any plants and only repackages seeds purchased in bulk from large seed mills as whatever sounds good. They are a marketing company that deals in seeds. There's no soul to it, man. I can see that you don't get it and never will. I imagine your bud probably tastes like hay, as well, but that's just a guess.

 

[TreeFarmerCharlie]

Fake genetics that often cost as much or more than the real thing, sold by a customer service company that doesn't grow any plants and only repackages seeds purchased in bulk from large seed mills as whatever sounds good. They are a marketing company that deals in seeds. There's no soul to it, man. I can see that you don't get it and never will. I imagine your bud probably tastes like hay, as well, but that's just a guess.

Wait a minute...It isn't supposed to taste like hay? You may just be on to something here.

 

[Wattzzup]

Where did you get the idea that I care about marketing hype at all? I went with ILGM when I started because they were the much more responsive to my questions than other suppliers I contacted and made it easy for me to pay. I returned to them because of those reasons and also because I've had zero issues with their seeds and have been happy with the plants they produced. That seems to me to be quite the opposite of me going with them because they are good at marketing.

No stories of I sent money two months ago and haven’t heard anything with ILGM. Which is all you here about these guys on IG.

 

[Hawg Wild]

No stories of I sent money two months ago and haven’t heard anything with ILGM. Which is all you here about these guys on IG.

I don't mess with anyone on IG that I don't know from forums or previous dealings. IG is far from the only place to get verified genetics. And there are a ton of posts here on RIU of people having issues receiving from ILGM. I was actually reading some of them earlier.