A new medical growers needing help

[RockyGMSD]

Can anyone tell me what’s wrong with my baby girl?

 

[ProteinPapi420]

little bit more details. Humidity strain temperature! Looks like a nutrient burn because if the tip of the leaves but this happens to me when the hum is high

 

[RockyGMSD]

little bit more details. Humidity strain temperature! Looks like a nutrient burn because if the tip of the leaves but this happens to me when the hum is high

root/floor temp between 70 lights off 75 light on consistent. Canopy temp 73 lights off 81 lights on Consistent. Humidity never higher than 56 never lower than 40. Strain space cookies. Growing in purple cow indicanja lower 1/2 of pot. Top half FFOF, perlite, earth worm castings, coco coir

 

[spek9]

It's over watered. The drooping leaves are a dead giveaway. If it continues, you'll begin experiencing nutrient lockout, which will cause any number of deficiencies to appear.

Let the pots dry out between waterings, when you do water, water to saturation of the medium until there is some runoff, and always water when lights first come on.

 

[TreeFarmerCharlie]

little bit more details. Humidity strain temperature! Looks like a nutrient burn because if the tip of the leaves but this happens to me when the hum is high

Please stop giving advice until you learn more. You haven’t even completed your first grow yet and the advice you’ve been giving has been incorrect or misleading.

 

[RockyGMSD]

It's over watered. The drooping leaves are a dead giveaway. If it continues, you'll begin experiencing nutrient lockout, which will cause any number of deficiencies to appear.

Let the pots dry out between waterings, when you do water, water to saturation of the medium until there is some runoff, and always water when lights first come on.

The soil was reading dry/moist on my meter (soil probe) so I watered it earlier the last time I watered it before this morning (right before the lights shut off smh) was almost 3 days ago. Could the plant be showing signs of me overwatering it days after watering it?

 

[spek9]

Could the plant be showing signs of me overwatering it days after watering it?

Yes, it can, particularly if the plant sits in a freshly saturated medium all night. The plants use far less water during lights off, so the roots just sit there in wet soil.

Also, go by the feel of the pot, not by a meter. Get another pot of the same size the plant is in, and fill it with dry medium. When you go to water, lift the plant, and the dry medium pot. If they are relatively equivalent in weight, water until runoff. If they aren't, wait until the next day and check again.

 

[TreeFarmerCharlie]

The soil was reading dry/moist on my meter (soil probe) so I watered it earlier the last time I watered it before this morning (right before the lights shut off smh) was almost 3 days ago. Could the plant be showing signs of me overwatering it days after watering it?

It depends on how much you've been over watering it. If you use those soil moisture probes you need to see what they read in 4 or more locations in the pot to really know how moist the soil is. I used those when I started growing and one part of hte pot would look super dry while others were more than wet enough to prevent the need for more water. One way I did to learn how quickly my pots and soil mixture dried out was to water my plants until I got run-off, then I didn't water them until the plants leave's hung like wet rags, and then I had a ballpark figure of how long was too long and shortened that length of time by a day. So, for example, if it takes 4 days for them to hang like wet rags, then water them until run-off once every 3 days until they require more frequent watering.

The picture on the left is how they looked after I let them dry until they went limp and the picture on the right is how the same plant looks 7 hours after watering it.

 

[RockyGMSD]

Yes, it can, particularly if the plant sits in a freshly saturated medium all night. The plants use far less water during lights off, so the roots just sit there in wet soil.

Also, go by the feel of the pot, not by a meter. Get another pot of the same size the plant is in, and fill it with dry medium. When you go to water, lift the plant, and the dry medium pot. If they are relatively equivalent in weight, water until runoff. If they aren't, wait until the next day and check again.

I love this idea. Thank you

 

[RockyGMSD]

It depends on how much you've been over watering it. If you use those soil moisture probes you need to see what they read in 4 or more locations in the pot to really know how moist the soil is. I used those when I started growing and one part of hte pot would look super dry while others were more than wet enough to prevent the need for more water. One way I did to learn how quickly my pots and soil mixture dried out was to water my plants until I got run-off, then I didn't water them until the plants leave's hung like wet rags, and then I had a ballpark figure of how long was too long and shortened that length of time by a day. So, for example, if it takes 4 days for them to hang like wet rags, then water them until run-off once every 3 days until they require more frequent watering.

The picture on the left is how they looked after I let them dry until they went limp and the picture on the right is how the same plant looks 7 hours after watering it.
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I love the pic. Helps me realize what you guys are saying. Question about the pic tho. What are the pots in and why? I have mine sitting on pink foam insulation board cuz they were sitting on concrete as of last night. The root temp was lower than I wanted it.(72-74)

 

[ProteinPapi420]

Please stop giving advice until you learn more. You haven’t even completed your first grow yet and the advice you’ve been giving has been incorrect or misleading.

I told him that for me when the hum is too high the same happens to me. I didnt say that the leaves are look like this cause of nut burn I that the tip of the leaves tells me its a nut burn or something. I fidnt wana tell anything about the dropping leaves without details.....

 

[ProteinPapi420]

It depends on how much you've been over watering it. If you use those soil moisture probes you need to see what they read in 4 or more locations in the pot to really know how moist the soil is. I used those when I started growing and one part of hte pot would look super dry while others were more than wet enough to prevent the need for more water. One way I did to learn how quickly my pots and soil mixture dried out was to water my plants until I got run-off, then I didn't water them until the plants leave's hung like wet rags, and then I had a ballpark figure of how long was too long and shortened that length of time by a day. So, for example, if it takes 4 days for them to hang like wet rags, then water them until run-off once every 3 days until they require more frequent watering.

The picture on the left is how they looked after I let them dry until they went limp and the picture on the right is how the same plant looks 7 hours after watering it.
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You definitely dont need to wait until the leaves look like this.

 

[spek9]

You definitely dont need to wait until the leaves look like this.

You definitely don't want to wait until they look like that. Under watering to that level stresses the plant in several ways. I'm sure Charlie was just showing a good side-by-side comparison at all, and wasn't implying to let the plants get so bad as normal practice.

 

[TreeFarmerCharlie]

I told him that for me when the hum is too high the same happens to me. I didnt say that the leaves are look like this cause of nut burn I that the tip of the leaves tells me its a nut burn or something. I fidnt wana tell anything about the dropping leaves without details.....

The tip of the leaves don't show nute burn and this isn't the first time you've given advice that you have no experience with. You told some other guy last week that you top all your plants 4-5 times then, a few days later, were asking for help because you don't know how to even top your plants properly.

You definitely dont need to wait until the leaves look like this.

You need to read what I said. I didn't say to do this more than one time.

 

[ProteinPapi420]

You definitely don't want to wait until they look like that. Under watering to that level stresses the plant in several ways. I'm sure Charlie was just showing a good side-by-side comparison at all, and wasn't implying to let the plants get so bad as normal practice.

Yea I know. I wasnt saying that Charlie gives that advise

 

[TreeFarmerCharlie]

You definitely don't want to wait until they look like that. Under watering to that level stresses the plant in several ways. I'm sure Charlie was just showing a good side-by-side comparison at all, and wasn't implying to let the plants get so bad as normal practice.

I only recommended doing it one time if they can't figure out proper watering with their soil mixture. Making them thirsty one time will stress them out some, but not bad at all if you are checking on them multiple times a day waiting for them to hang.

 

[TreeFarmerCharlie]

I love the pic. Helps me realize what you guys are saying. Question about the pic tho. What are the pots in and why? I have mine sitting on pink foam insulation board cuz they were sitting on concrete as of last night. The root temp was lower than I wanted it.(72-74)

I used to keep them in wooden frames, to keep them off the ground, but it was a bad idea because the wood just absorbs the water and salts and starts to rot.

 

[RockyGMSD]

I used to keep them in wooden frames, to keep them off the ground, but it was a bad idea because the wood just absorbs the water and salts and starts to rot.

Gotcha. Looks nice though. I kinda want to try it. Maybe maybe wrap it in foil or that stuff that they put in grow tents and on walls.

 

[TreeFarmerCharlie]

Gotcha. Looks nice though. I kinda want to try it. Maybe maybe wrap it in foil or that stuff that they put in grow tents and on walls.

You could make them out of 3/4" PVC trim board and they would probably last years.

 

[spek9]

Maybe maybe wrap it in foil or that stuff that they put in grow tents and on walls.

Just for your information, that's called either Mylar (silver) or Panda Film (white). Most Mylar when bought in rolls is black on the back side. I'd recommend at least 6mil thickness. I've not ever used Panda Film before, but I believe it's black on the back side as well.