I grew in coco with added perlite and vermiculite. It’s a great mix but has zero nutrients. So you’ll need to feed your plants. I don’t think it makes a better difference Ph wise using coco. I had ph problems with all of them so I don’t think it’s any better ph wise. In contrary a lot of coco is bad for your garden. It attracts gnats more than usual and unless you really know what you’re buying , most of coco is high in salts. Versus soils already have adjusted ph.
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IrkinBollikans
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I just checked maxi grow and bloom fertilizers. It’s all 100% chemicals. General hydroponics is 100% unnatural and 100% chemicals - all their products no exception. I suppose it’s one’s choice how and what they wanna consume, but I’d like to tell you something that will make you wonder a few things. When you buy strawberries in a grocery market, do you enjoy them? Nobody does, they are gross , no taste and should never be called strawberry since it doesn’t even smell like one. Now ask yourself how is it grown? Hydroponically or maybe even in soil but still on chemicals that’s why you get big pretty fruit with shitty taste. That applies to all fruits and vegetables in US. Now what makes you think that cannabis is any different from all these other plants ? So my belief is you will taste the difference In cannabis for sure from grown on soil and grown hydro. One thing I know for sure is that I had many rashes and breakouts after smoking premium flowers purchased from dispensaries. My thought on that, it’s all the chemicals you’re ingesting. So sure flowers will look all pretty and fat, but remember about the chemicals you’ll be consuming . Frankly my personal belief for cancer warnings on cannabis products is not for cannabis but for how it was grown- 100% chemicals. So yes your tree is pretty and all, and I can easily achieve same results! You think I can’t buy maxi gro? Sure I can, and I just googled what’s in it, and even if was gonna give wings to my plants- I won’t use it nor I would recommend anyone using it for the reasons I mentioned. In nature they are not loaded with chemicals like that, they grow in regular soil and take time. We wanna speed it up without thinking of consequences but truly the consequences will be in our health. I can’t stand weed from dispensaries anymore for the reasons I can tell straight up how toxic these flowers are, even the best of the best because non of these growers will be dealing with bs I am dealing with trying to grow all natural, they stick to a schedule and chemicals that NEVER fail! That’s why they can afford producing consistently. Reason nobody even knows answer to my problem here because nobody ever got out of their book to go grow it other ways, experiment etc... most everybody think there is no way to grow without chemicals because they were given a book how to grow and must have nutrients in a bottle. I could do the same but like I said I believe in contrary that one can grow without chemicals all vegan in fact! My last several grows were 100% vegan despite the fact that people keep stressing you have to buy all kinds blood bone meals... I used golden tree which is vegan. It got me thru entire growth but I never had rich green color, it was faded green so I’m sure it doesn’t have all necessary nutrients but still doesn’t mean I have to blood to get good results. I just had to figure out what else it’s missing. But I don’t use that nutrient anymore, I’ve been trying to avoid liquid fertilizers since I haven’t had one that was good yet. I see better results with dried fertilizers.
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I don't doubt that better results can be had with organics. Especially as far as terpenes are concerned, but at the end of the day, elements are elements. The plant doesnt care how it gets them. I do understand and appreciate your view. If my thumb were a little greener, I would give organics a shot. But I'm not that good, so I use a foolproof formula. Best of luck
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I don't doubt that better results can be had with organics. Especially as far as terpenes are concerned, but at the end of the day, elements are elements. The plant doesnt care how it gets them. I do understand and appreciate your view. If my thumb were a little greener, I would give organics a shot. But I'm not that good, so I use a foolproof formula. Best of luck
IrkinBollikans
Well-Known Member
Idk what's going on, but I did make the above post. Weird. (I see I just didn't quote it correctly) Too late for this
I just checked maxi grow and bloom fertilizers. It’s all 100% chemicals. General hydroponics is 100% unnatural and 100% chemicals - all their products no exception. I suppose it’s one’s choice how and what they wanna consume, but I’d like to tell you something that will make you wonder a few things. When you buy strawberries in a grocery market, do you enjoy them? Nobody does, they are gross , no taste and should never be called strawberry since it doesn’t even smell like one. Now ask yourself how is it grown? Hydroponically or maybe even in soil but still on chemicals that’s why you get big pretty fruit with shitty taste. That applies to all fruits and vegetables in US. Now what makes you think that cannabis is any different from all these other plants ? So my belief is you will taste the difference In cannabis for sure from grown on soil and grown hydro. One thing I know for sure is that I had many rashes and breakouts after smoking premium flowers purchased from dispensaries. My thought on that, it’s all the chemicals you’re ingesting. So sure flowers will look all pretty and fat, but remember about the chemicals you’ll be consuming . Frankly my personal belief for cancer warnings on cannabis products is not for cannabis but for how it was grown- 100% chemicals. So yes your tree is pretty and all, and I can easily achieve same results! You think I can’t buy maxi gro? Sure I can, and I just googled what’s in it, and even if was gonna give wings to my plants- I won’t use it nor I would recommend anyone using it for the reasons I mentioned. In nature they are not loaded with chemicals like that, they grow in regular soil and take time. We wanna speed it up without thinking of consequences but truly the consequences will be in our health. I can’t stand weed from dispensaries anymore for the reasons I can tell straight up how toxic these flowers are, even the best of the best because non of these growers will be dealing with bs I am dealing with trying to grow all natural, they stick to a schedule and chemicals that NEVER fail! That’s why they can afford producing consistently. Reason nobody even knows answer to my problem here because nobody ever got out of their book to go grow it other ways, experiment etc... most everybody think there is no way to grow without chemicals because they were given a book how to grow and must have nutrients in a bottle. I could do the same but like I said I believe in contrary that one can grow without chemicals all vegan in fact! My last several grows were 100% vegan despite the fact that people keep stressing you have to buy all kinds blood bone meals... I used golden tree which is vegan. It got me thru entire growth but I never had rich green color, it was faded green so I’m sure it doesn’t have all necessary nutrients but still doesn’t mean I have to blood to get good results. I just had to figure out what else it’s missing. But I don’t use that nutrient anymore, I’ve been trying to avoid liquid fertilizers since I haven’t had one that was good yet. I see better results with dried fertilizers.
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Also just remember and wanted to add. Dispensaries have to follow some guidelines however it doesn’t stop them from selling shit that is heavily toxic from growing on chemicals or loaded with pesticides, it’s just they have the types are allowed. But that doesn’t mean it’s good. Best example of weed toxicity is get one from delivery people. One time and after that I said never again, I ordered delivery and flower looked and tasted fine, after smoking it - my left arm was covered with strange blisters. I was so scared because I didn’t even think it could be weed, I thought it was an std or something. Sure enough I figured out it was weed, and I threw it away. So on what people grow makes a HUGE difference in your health. That’s what I’m trying to do, grow it healthy not just for the plant but also for me. If any of you have problematic skin and you guys smoke cannabis- this topic should open your eyes !
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Also just remember and wanted to add. Dispensaries have to follow some guidelines however it doesn’t stop them from selling shit that is heavily toxic from growing on chemicals or loaded with pesticides, it’s just they have the types are allowed. But that doesn’t mean it’s good. Best example of weed toxicity is get one from delivery people. One time and after that I said never again, I ordered delivery and flower looked and tasted fine, after smoking it - my left arm was covered with strange blisters. I was so scared because I didn’t even think it could be weed, I thought it was an std or something. Sure enough I figured out it was weed, and I threw it away. So on what people grow makes a HUGE difference in your health. That’s what I’m trying to do, grow it healthy not just for the plant but also for me. If any of you have problematic skin and you guys smoke cannabis- this topic should open your eyes !
I don't doubt that better results can be had with organics. Especially as far as terpenes are concerned, but at the end of the day, elements are elements. The plant doesnt care how it gets them. I do understand and appreciate your view. If my thumb were a little greener, I would give organics a shot. But I'm not that good, so I use a foolproof formula. Best of luck
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Stay in touch and I’ll show you the difference when I’ll have my harvest so it might change your mind. Frankly it might change mine too since this so first time me growing on soil. I only grew on coco mixes before. So who knows maybe I won’t like soil either, but so far I do. Although it depends what kind of soil, soils such as miracle grow, should be illegal to sell. All that commercial stuff is contaminated with all kinds of insects that will destroy your garden. But i got clean soil I’m super happy about, no bugs which is the most important thing in soil.
PadawanWarrior
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You guys need to learn how to use paragraphs, and break that wall up if you want anyone to read it.
Budzbuddha
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Wow 
.... tried reading all that shit ... but stopped at part about smoking something... ass caught fire , dick blisters or some shit liked that happened.
Did i miss something?
.... tried reading all that shit ... but stopped at part about smoking something... ass caught fire , dick blisters or some shit liked that happened.Did i miss something?
PadawanWarrior
Well-Known Member
Preparation H for the burning butthole, and Neosporin for the wiener. Works every time man. You can thank me later.Wow
Did i miss something?
Yes looks like you missed everything ! There was nothing about assfire or dick blisters. I told you an experience I had with bad weed so you beware but you don’t appreciate any of that I see. Yeah my man I was saying in that post that dispensaries got bombass weed that will have fire coming out of your ass. You should try!Wow
Did i miss something?
Wattzzup
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Paragraphs. All that book smarts you claim to have no paragraphs. Who’s reading that mess?
CannaCountry
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Well that was fun...
Johnny Lawrence
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My local burrito spot already has me covered.
I'll just stick to smoking my weed with all of the chemicals in it(cause that's exactly how it works when you feed a plant with chelated nutes) and just have to suffer through the inevitable dick blisters.
growingforfun
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I used to only grow organic, its just a more expensive way of doing the same thing. I get better smell and taste now with chem nutes because they don't stick around as long in the soil. I do a light feeding once a week or 2 in flower, maybe 1 time a month in veg. OP looks to be literally dumping piles of nutrients on his poor plants. and organic nutes are time release so its built up to toxic levels. people have tried telling him this a dozen times but he refuses to see those posts. oh btw, I grow in plastic pots OP, so I probably don't know shit and you can disregard this cuz im a chem uses plastic pot growin know nothin bout cannabis poser
Budzbuddha
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Hey OP ... i held up my bargain about info swap.
So lets hear it about your final light choices .
Come on don’t be shy ... hate indian givers
So lets hear it about your final light choices .
Come on don’t be shy ... hate indian givers
TreeFarmerCharlie
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Both ways can be done at a lower cost. I just switched to organic and I found it to be cheaper than bottled nutrients. The soil was a little more expensive but the dry amendments seem to last forever.
Budzbuddha
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Very interested in these grand spectacular magicalistic lights from the land of Modor you speak of.
growingforfun
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eh ya the dry amendments are great I agree with that but I spend about 120$ per LB all included, soil, electric, nutes. I couldn't personally get there with organics and im getting better quality now. I did organics a long time an think its great for outdoor especially. but the myth that the chemicals get into the buds is false, unless your using some of the banned chems.
TreeFarmerCharlie
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You’ve probably never heard of them because OP said they’ve tried every light available before they settled on the best blurple on the planet.
growingforfun
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ill share mine! gavita 1kw DE, timber redwood (LED) about 600 watt, 315 cmh.