Boomers have ruined the planet

Heavysmoker86

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Wow and you live in Canada. Must be nice. That is the pinochle of white priveledge as you get to also hand select what immigrants live in your country with all of the queens wealth free healthcare and vast resources for sparse populations.


I absolutely adore how you blame everyone else for all the problems, but you include "we" when you want something.
 

spek9

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Wow and you live in Canada. Must be nice. That is the pinochle of white priveledge as you get to also hand select what immigrants live in your country with all of the queens wealth free healthcare and vast resources for sparse populations.
You sound jealous and angry. It's that silver spoon thing again, isn't it? Bemoaning what others have and whining while picking scraps out of your bong won't get you anywhere in life.

Queens wealth? Wrong. Free healthcare? Wrong again. Vast resources with a sparse population? That's smart.

Insults mean nothing when they come from someone who chose the wrong college degree and now works at a job where they can't even save $10 for a gram of cannabis, all the while bitching that everyone has made their life a sad existence.

How's that FREE stimulus cheque working out for you?
 

KTM690sm

Active Member
I have like a dozen ole bowls hanging around my shop I can send. Prolly get a few bowls of realish weed out of them before you scrape them. I just toss them after they turn color. Can get them for 5 bucks at all the hodgie marts around here
 

Heavysmoker86

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Because the last generation rigged the system if you don’t live in America you wouldn’t know

You sound jealous and angry. It's that silver spoon thing again, isn't it? Bemoaning what others have and whining while picking scraps out of your bong won't get you anywhere in life.

Queens wealth? Wrong. Free healthcare? Wrong again. Vast resources with a sparse population? That's smart.

Insults mean nothing when they come from someone who chose the wrong college degree and now works at a job where they can't even save $10 for a gram of cannabis.
 

spek9

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Because the last generation rigged the system if you don’t live in America you wouldn’t know
My wife is a dual citizen and I travel there regularly, so once again, WRONG.

To boot, I've been to and through 32 continental United States. Most of them several times. The majority at least twice. How about you? Have you experienced your own country?

I haven't heard any of the plans you have about what YOU are going to do to fix things. I did ask a few pages ago.
 

KTM690sm

Active Member
Heavy should move to a nice place like wuhan. I hear most of the older people are dead so you should be set.
 

Heavysmoker86

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Yes please

I have like a dozen ole bowls hanging around my shop I can send. Prolly get a few bowls of realish weed out of them before you scrape them. I just toss them after they turn color. Can get them for 5 bucks at all the hodgie marts around here
 

hanimmal

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Yeah it is insane how well their attack worked when after decades of trying they just rode the Trump/Bernie campaign right into our election using data analytics and personality profiling A.I. along with the Facebook and Trump data he got from the RNC on every voter in America to divide everyone up and personalize their propaganda.
 

jimihendrix1

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Republicans are the ones that have fucked Social Security. Theyve been against it since its inception, and are still trying to fuck with it.

During Republican demigod Ronald Reagan’s first term, the former B-movie actor thought it was a good idea to “reform” Social Security. Anyone following conservative politics is well-aware that when a Republican uses that word reform, it means drastic cuts if not abolition. At the time, even many Republicans understood something former House Speaker Tip O’Neill had said about Social Security: “it is the “third rail of American politics” that if you touch it and you die. Mr. O’Neill should be credited as much as anyone in America as the man who made touching, gutting, or abolishing Social Security a deadly political issue. That being the case, as noted by Andrew Bradford, “Donald Trump might want to start picking out a nice casket.

According to an “unnamed source standing in the room” during Trump’s storied meeting with House Speaker Paul Ryan, Trump told Ryan that he is in favor of gutting Social Security like most Republicans. But, like most Republicans he is terrified of saying so on the campaign trail because it would be the death knell for his electoral chances in November. Now, Trump did not say he wants to gut Social Security for budgetary reasons, or because he will ever get any of the Trust’s trillions of dollars in reserve; trillions, by the way, that belong lock, stock and barrel to the American people. No, Trump’s reason is actually worse; if that is even possible.

According to the person in the room, Trump said he would gut Social Security because like lying about his intent to steal Americans’ retirement savings; it was the morally upright thing to do. Trump told Ryan that,


From a moral standpoint, I believe in it. But you also have to get elected. And there’s no way a Republican is going to beat a Democrat when the Republican is saying, ‘We’re going to cut your Social Security’ and the Democrat is saying, ‘We’re going to keep it and give you more.’ ”

At least Trump’s comment clearly delineates Republicans from Democrats on the issue of Social Security.

The executive director of Social Security Works, Alex Lawson, deeply believes that regardless what Trump says on the stump, he is no different than any other Republicans who desperately want to gut Social Security while pretending to support it; usually with clever buzzwords like ‘protecting young Americans’ future well-being.”

Donald Trump won’t say it, but Republicans in the Senate will: Social Security and Medicare would be on the chopping block in a second Trump term. Pointing to rising deficits, Republican senators have all but promised to gut entitlements if Trump gets four more years.

Sen. John Thune (R-SD), the second-ranking Senate Republican, expressed hope to the New York Times that Trump would be “interested” in reforming Social Security and Medicare. Sen. John Barrasso (R-WY) was even more optimistic. “We’ve brought it up with President Trump, who has talked about it being a second-term project,” Barrasso said. Senate Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) has made no secret of wanting to cut Social Security.

In using deficit fears to target entitlement programs, many Republicans are hoping to use Trump's second term to cut Medicare and Social Security. First, expand deficits through tax cuts, then declare that spending must be slashed. The chief target of these proposed cuts is Social Security, which historians have noted the mainstream Republican party has long sought to diminish, privatize, or both.



“Starve the beast”

Senate Republicans’ talk of entitlement cuts come in the context of new estimates from the Congressional Budget Office, which predicts the deficit will climb to $1 trillion in 2020. By 2029, the deficit relative to GDP is slated to reach the highest levels since World War II—an unprecedented deficit level for an economic expansion, when deficits tend to shrink.

Since past behavior is a good predictor of future behavior, and many Republicans are signaling they want to, Republicans will likely argue for cuts to Social Security and Medicare when a recession inevitably hits. This can be seen as a reprise of the tactic known as “starve the beast.

“Starve the beast” is a political two-step that first generates deficits through tax cuts and, second, points to the alarmingly high deficits to attack government spending and reduce entitlements. Credited to an unnamed Reagan administration official in 1985 and long associated with Reagan economic guru David Stockman, the notion of “starve the beast” emerged from around the time of Reagan’s 1981 tax cuts, which were not paired with simultaneous spending reductions.

Reagan held that higher deficits would naturally lead to budget reductions: “We can lecture our children about extravagance until we run out of voice and breath. Or we can cure their extravagance by simply reducing their allowance.”

Today, you can see the “starve the beast” tactic clearly in the 2017 tax cuts—the main cause of the projected record deficits—to future spending cuts. Trump’s top economic adviser Larry Kudlow, a veteran of the Reagan administration, has made this argument himself. He explicitly invoked “starve the beast” in a 1996 Wall Street Journal op ed:

"Tax cuts impose a restraint on the size of government. Tax cuts will starve the beast… Specifically, tax cuts provide a policy incentive to search for market solutions to the problems of Social Security, health care, education and the environment."
It would be no surprise to learn that Kudlow, who now heads Trump's National Economic Council, is pursuing the same course today.
 

jimihendrix1

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The quest to privatize Social Security

In his 2016 campaign, Donald Trump said bluntly, “I’m not going to cut Social Security like every other Republican.” Despite reports from fellow Republicans like Thune and Barrasso that Trump may, indeed, be just like every Republican in a second term, some on the right think it’s best that he keep that promise.

Among those urging caution is longtime Republican strategist Grover Norquist, famous for his libertarian credo, “I don't want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub.” After the 2017 tax bill passed, Norquist cautioned Trump that Social Security and Medicare should be “off the table” in future spending reductions.

But to follow Norquist’s advice would go against the momentum of a conservative movement that has been gaining steam since the 1980s in their quest to cut or privatize Social Security.

Republican opposition to Social Security goes back to the program's earliest days. In the 1935 vote to create Social Security, just 4% of Democrats voted against the bill, compared to 16% of Republicans. The contemporary Social Security privatization movement originates in the conservative Cato Institute, which in 1980 sponsored a book that advocated for privatization. The book's author, Peter Ferrarra, went on to serve in the Reagan administration.

Advocates for dismantling Social Security knew they faced an uphill climb. In the 1980s, Cato and the Heritage Foundation published a paper, "Achieving a 'Leninist' Strategy," which promoted "guerrilla warfare against both the current Social Security system and the coalition that supports it" by creating "a focused political coalition" against Social Security advocates.

Cato’s Social Security privatization efforts have long been supported by Cato affiliate José Piñera, a former official under Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet and the architect of Chile’s pension privatization. Forty years after that policy experiment, massive protests erupted in Chile demanding a better retirement system.

Influenced by Cato and other groups, Republican presidents have repeatedly attempted to cut or privatize Social Security. Reagan’s efforts stalled in the face of public opinion. George W. Bush vowed in his second term to expend political capital on the initiative, aiming to cut benefits by partially privatizing Social Security through the introduction of “voluntary personal retirement accounts.” Although it was his top domestic priority, Bush too fell short.

But this history of failures hasn’t stopped today’s Republicans from pushing Trump to go after Social Security, the linchpin of the U.S. retirement system.
 

Heavysmoker86

Well-Known Member
How about disband the military and use the tax dollars to save it.


Republicans are the ones that have fucked Social Security. Theyve been against it since its inception, and are still trying to fuck with it.

During Republican demigod Ronald Reagan’s first term, the former B-movie actor thought it was a good idea to “reform” Social Security. Anyone following conservative politics is well-aware that when a Republican uses that word reform, it means drastic cuts if not abolition. At the time, even many Republicans understood something former House Speaker Tip O’Neill had said about Social Security: “it is the “third rail of American politics” that if you touch it and you die. Mr. O’Neill should be credited as much as anyone in America as the man who made touching, gutting, or abolishing Social Security a deadly political issue. That being the case, as noted by Andrew Bradford, “Donald Trump might want to start picking out a nice casket.

According to an “unnamed source standing in the room” during Trump’s storied meeting with House Speaker Paul Ryan, Trump told Ryan that he is in favor of gutting Social Security like most Republicans. But, like most Republicans he is terrified of saying so on the campaign trail because it would be the death knell for his electoral chances in November. Now, Trump did not say he wants to gut Social Security for budgetary reasons, or because he will ever get any of the Trust’s trillions of dollars in reserve; trillions, by the way, that belong lock, stock and barrel to the American people. No, Trump’s reason is actually worse; if that is even possible.

According to the person in the room, Trump said he would gut Social Security because like lying about his intent to steal Americans’ retirement savings; it was the morally upright thing to do. Trump told Ryan that,


From a moral standpoint, I believe in it. But you also have to get elected. And there’s no way a Republican is going to beat a Democrat when the Republican is saying, ‘We’re going to cut your Social Security’ and the Democrat is saying, ‘We’re going to keep it and give you more.’ ”

At least Trump’s comment clearly delineates Republicans from Democrats on the issue of Social Security.

The executive director of Social Security Works, Alex Lawson, deeply believes that regardless what Trump says on the stump, he is no different than any other Republicans who desperately want to gut Social Security while pretending to support it; usually with clever buzzwords like ‘protecting young Americans’ future well-being.”

Donald Trump won’t say it, but Republicans in the Senate will: Social Security and Medicare would be on the chopping block in a second Trump term. Pointing to rising deficits, Republican senators have all but promised to gut entitlements if Trump gets four more years.

Sen. John Thune (R-SD), the second-ranking Senate Republican, expressed hope to the New York Times that Trump would be “interested” in reforming Social Security and Medicare. Sen. John Barrasso (R-WY) was even more optimistic. “We’ve brought it up with President Trump, who has talked about it being a second-term project,” Barrasso said. Senate Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) has made no secret of wanting to cut Social Security.

In using deficit fears to target entitlement programs, many Republicans are hoping to use Trump's second term to cut Medicare and Social Security. First, expand deficits through tax cuts, then declare that spending must be slashed. The chief target of these proposed cuts is Social Security, which historians have noted the mainstream Republican party has long sought to diminish, privatize, or both.



“Starve the beast”

Senate Republicans’ talk of entitlement cuts come in the context of new estimates from the Congressional Budget Office, which predicts the deficit will climb to $1 trillion in 2020. By 2029, the deficit relative to GDP is slated to reach the highest levels since World War II—an unprecedented deficit level for an economic expansion, when deficits tend to shrink.

Since past behavior is a good predictor of future behavior, and many Republicans are signaling they want to, Republicans will likely argue for cuts to Social Security and Medicare when a recession inevitably hits. This can be seen as a reprise of the tactic known as “starve the beast.

“Starve the beast” is a political two-step that first generates deficits through tax cuts and, second, points to the alarmingly high deficits to attack government spending and reduce entitlements. Credited to an unnamed Reagan administration official in 1985 and long associated with Reagan economic guru David Stockman, the notion of “starve the beast” emerged from around the time of Reagan’s 1981 tax cuts, which were not paired with simultaneous spending reductions.

Reagan held that higher deficits would naturally lead to budget reductions: “We can lecture our children about extravagance until we run out of voice and breath. Or we can cure their extravagance by simply reducing their allowance.”

Today, you can see the “starve the beast” tactic clearly in the 2017 tax cuts—the main cause of the projected record deficits—to future spending cuts. Trump’s top economic adviser Larry Kudlow, a veteran of the Reagan administration, has made this argument himself. He explicitly invoked “starve the beast” in a 1996 Wall Street Journal op ed:


It would be no surprise to learn that Kudlow, who now heads Trump's National Economic Council, is pursuing the same course today.
 

MrToad69

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No what I’m tired of is the establishment pretending they are for the people when they are not. Not the millennial. Do you know out of all of my friends my age only one had stocks? How can you measure an economy? By the fake stock market? When 2/3 of Americans live paycheck to paycheck? That stocked market is for the rich 10% and they shit on the rest of us. Lobbyists waving dollars and old people selling out. We need a political revolution. A big one... not this half step mambo Jambo conjecture kicking the can down the street with a crooked smile and then saying fuck the little guys.

My generation has had it so much worse because we have war 20 years and recession after ression and the good ole corruption boys just smoke cigars on golf courses and laugh. We need AOC we need Bernie... we do not need half step now it’s telling us not to vote for a revolutionary candidate
Gosh
Heavysmoker

You really havent a clue!

I will agree that "the Rich" have privilege and advantage..no question...best lawyers, best accountants, keys to Daddy's Porsche and a membership to the local country club..I'll even agree that there is tons of corruption..nepotism etc..
Lets go after it..for sure.

Where I have a problem..is your understanding of "the system", implications, cause and effect and how it affects you...

You mention war ...serious? You certainly dont sound like you live in Ukraine, Syria, Israel or numerous other countries around the world constantly on the edge...you likely live in some decent community..much like myself..insulated from the crap out there in the rest of the world...and you complain. War has done little to affect the lives of mainstream western society
If those generations of people you complain of hadnt fought in the first and second world war, your life would be a hell of a lot different junior!



You work part time, yet figure that someone else has ruined your world? Look at the 20-30 somethings who have taken the ball and run with it...making the world even more superficial and profited from it...Kardshian's (tits n ass..what is the latest fashion type), IT billionaires by the time they're 30? Professional e-gamers..there's a contribution to society..so quit pointing fingers and making generalizations.

Problem is..you feel entitled to someone else's paycheck...Do yourself a favor...do the equivalent of going back in time..Move to a small town where people are honest and humble...Where a house is 1/10 that of living in the big city..Different priorities that you can appreciate and less bitterness..

Peace Out!

The stock market?..Lets you be a capitalist and participate in business without having all the bucks
 

Heavysmoker86

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War... no not war here. 7 trillion gone that was suppose to benefit us millennials not war and the rich


Gosh
Heavysmoker

You really havent a clue!

I will agree that "the Rich" have privilege and advantage..no question...best lawyers, best accountants, keys to Daddy's Porsche and a membership to the local country club..I'll even agree that there is tons of corruption..nepotism etc..
Lets go after it..for sure.

Where I have a problem..is your understanding of "the system", implications, cause and effect and how it affects you...

You mention war ...serious? You certainly dont sound like you live in Ukraine, Syria, Israel or numerous other countries around the world constantly on the edge...you likely live in some decent community..much like myself..insulated from the crap out there in the rest of the world...and you complain. War has done little to affect the lives of mainstream western society
If those generations of people you complain of hadnt fought in the first and second world war, your life would be a hell of a lot different junior!



You work part time, yet figure that someone else has ruined your world? Look at the 20-30 somethings who have taken the ball and run with it...making the world even more superficial and profited from it...Kardshian's (tits n ass..what is the latest fashion type), IT billionaires by the time they're 30? Professional e-gamers..there's a contribution to society..so quit pointing fingers and making generalizations.

Problem is..you feel entitled to someone else's paycheck...Do yourself a favor...do the equivalent of going back in time..Move to a small town where people are honest and humble...Where a house is 1/10 that of living in the big city..Different priorities that you can appreciate and less bitterness..

Peace Out!

The stock market?..Lets you be a capitalist and participate in business without having all the bucks
 

jimihendrix1

Well-Known Member
How about disband the military and use the tax dollars to save it.

Has nothing to do with Republiklans stealing from it, and wanting to get rid of it since its inception.

Forget Whataboutism.

Whatabout Hillary?? Obama??

Whataboutism just means you dont have a valid argument.

Whatabot quit stealing from it, and trying to get rid of it since it came into being in 1935.

Historian Arthur Schlesinger (page 311) notes that the Republicans echoed corporate opposition to Social Security. A representative of the Illinois manufacturers testified that if Social Security was passed it would undermine America by “destroying initiative, discouraging thrift, and stifling individual responsibility.” In 1935, Republican congressman John Taber said Social Security “is designed to prevent business recovery, to enslave workers, and to prevent any possibility of the employers providing work for the people.”

In the 1970s the conservative Cato Institute made shrinking Social Security through privatization its primary objective and in 2005 George W. Bush tried to replace Social Security with private investment accounts. The Bush privatization plan failed.

Also in opposition to Medicare, in a famous 1964 speech, Ronald Reagan explained that his opposition to Social Security and Medicare is why he switched from the Democratic Party to the Republican Party. He called Social Security “welfare” and said of the possible regret in not stopping the passage of Medicare: “One of these days you and I are going to spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it once was like in America when men were free.”

When Vice President Mike Pence was in Congress he opposed passage of Medicare's Part D, the drug benefit, and complained that Bush's proposal to partially privatize Social Security was not enough; Pence proposed deeper cuts to the Social Security program than President Bush.

It seems Senator McConnell, usually careful not to rock the boat before the upcoming midterm elections, did not set out to tell the electorate that Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid cuts were high on the Republican agenda. It appeared to be a slip as he was caught off guard defending the Republican tax cut against a mid-October U.S. Department of the Treasury report attributing the highest deficit in six years to the Republican 2017 “Tax Cuts and Jobs Act.”

Just to be clear, the Republican tax cuts of 2017 are driving the deficit. Spending more than revenue causes a deficit. But Social Security is required by law to pay benefits only from its revenue and trust funds. Social Security is one of the few government programs with built-in fiscal discipline.

Bottom Line: Though Senator McConnell may not have meant to publicize the Republican agenda to cut Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, the long history of Republican opposition may be an example of what Sigmund Freud and modern psychologists believe--a slip of the tongue may reveal more of the truth than a well-constructed prepared remark. And in order to defend their expensive and regressive tax cut, Republicans may be preparing to cut America's most popular programs.
 

topcat

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Wow and you live in Canada. Must be nice. That is the pinochle of white priveledge as you get to also hand select what immigrants live in your country with all of the queens wealth free healthcare and vast resources for sparse populations.
Awe Jeez, dude. You mean pinnacle. Pinochle is a card game. They graduate anyone who merely shows up to school now. And it's privilege. Sheesh!
 

mustbetribbin

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Ok well actually I agree a lot with that. Ty
You're very welcome, Heavysmoker86, we must take the responsibility over the thoughts that our inner consciousness is subjected to, only from inside can we defeat such a battle ground that everyone around us including ourselves have been unconsciously barraged from behind with, with little to anyone being fully aware of the intricate details that have led us all astray from uniting collectively as a human populace, it's is our right as human beings to be aware of war like measures of control that have been placed before us and planned far beyond from the past, before many of us were even an embryo forming inside our mothers abdomen.

I'll repeat a favorite quote of mine because it's true....

Albert Pike once said:

" To sow, that others may reap; to work and plant for those that are to occupy the earth when we are dead; to project our influences far into the future, and live beyond our time; to rule as the Kings of Thought, over men who are yet unborn; to bless with the glorious gifts of Truth and Light and Liberty those who will neither know the name of the giver, nor care in what grave his unregarded ashes repose, is the true office of a Mason and the proudest destiny of a man."

The same words hold true for ideological subversion that America has been attacked with for decades onwards, and their words and ideological manifestations still affect our reality that we encounter in today's world, into the future onwards, we each hold this burden of responsibility to overcome and to have our own inner rationality that is necessary to be placed at the forefront of our thinking, and to allow for proper intellectual guidance to adhere itself to our own inter cranial subconscious and so forth.

we owe this to ourselves, don't let them take what is rightfully your own, and that is your birthright of "peace of mind" that they've made attempts to keep from within our grasp, don't let intellectual theft rule over your life friend, and I myself shall also continue with this battle in mine, as who is left standing to be impervious to such a vast foreboding plan that has sunken it's roots down into almost every portion of our lives?

Carry on dear friend, thank you.
 

spek9

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How about disband the military and use the tax dollars to save it.
Do you really think that now is a wise time to disband your military? That's what you'd suggest as part of a plan?

You must think the world outside of the USA has high opinions of your country and its leadership.

You're the one who's already said that in your 20 years, you've seen nothing but war. If the US eliminated its military, do you think all of the countries who the US has aggrieved will just sit idly by (note, it's not just Iraq and Afghanistan the US has invaded illegally)?

Asking for a Canadian friend...
 

Heavysmoker86

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It doesn’t matter. Nobody will be able to land ships to attack us we would bomb them first. You got a better idea?


Do you really think that now is a wise time to disband your military? That's what you'd suggest as part of a plan?

You must think the world outside of the USA has high opinions of your country and its leadership.

You're the one who's already said that in your 20 years, you've seen nothing but war. If the US eliminated its military, do you think all of the countries who the US has aggrieved will just sit idly by (note, it's not just Iraq and Afghanistan the US has invaded illegally)?

Asking for a Canadian friend...
 
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