OVER POTTING PLANTS- Dont do it

[RangiSTaxi]

Yeah, my issue is that I went from 1.5gal into 10gal. I was so worried about the new soil in the pot drying out that I gave each pot 2.5L of water the day after I transplanted them. I’m just having a hard time figuring out how to water these properly. The biggest part of my issue is that this is my first organic grow and I’ve never grown in 10gal pots before. Pretty much all of my previous grows were in 5gal pots.

As you started in a 1.5 gal , if you got it fairly root bound before potting up to 10 gallon, and if your plant was strong healthy when up potting, you cant over water, your risk is under watering as if parts of your pots dry out you will struggle to re wet them evenly, I would water heaps, as long as your climate is warm, and your plant is healthy and growing strongly, your fine. next time you can stage your pot sizes more gradually for stronger faster healthier growth..

 

[Byorn54]

I’m thinking of starting my next grow in a one gal from seed in coco/w Rockwool starter then transferring to 3 gal 5 gal 10gal then 30 for the flowering stretch would that work well timed out correctly?

 

[RangiSTaxi]

I’m thinking of starting my next grow in a one gal from seed in coco/w Rockwool starter then transferring to 3 gal 5 gal 10gal then 30 for the flowering stretch would that work well timed out correctly?

one gallon is probably too large to start with, i would use no larger than 1 litre for your first pot which is 1/4 of a gallon.

The first pot is the most important to get semi root bound before up-sizing

The first Pot in my photo is half a litre that is 1/8 of a gallon for your first pot.


1/2 a litre pot for clones, seeds for the first pot size, i.e 1/8 of a gallon, the plant in that 0.5 litre pot is only just now ready for up-sizing

 

[Byorn54]

one gallon is probably too large to start with, i would use no larger than 1 litre for your first pot which is 1/4 of a gallon.

The first pot is the most important to get semi root bound before up-sizing

The first Pot in my photo is half a litre that is 1/8 of a gallon for your first pot.

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1/2 a litre pot for clones, seeds for the first pot size, i.e 1/8 of a gallon, the plant in that 0.5 litre pot is only just now ready for up-sizing

Thank you for your response, and helpful information. I’ll give the smaller start size a go and wait for it to fill the cup out a bit more. should I more go with what feels right for the plants needs and be less worried about setting a specific gallon size past the starting cup.

 

[growingforfun]

the whole thing where people plant in the ground outside seems to kinda disprove your theory here.... you can put small clones in large containers just give small amounts of water...

 

[RangiSTaxi]

the whole thing where people plant in the ground outside seems to kinda disprove your theory here.... you can put small clones in large containers just give small amounts of water...

@growingforfun

This is not a Theory, all commercial wholesale plant nurseries Stage their pot sizes relative to plant size.

Can people directly sow or plant clones directly in the soil yes, but is it the best way to do it NO.

Its the difference between being a professional or a cowboy.

 

[RangiSTaxi]

Thank you for your response, and helpful information. I’ll give the smaller start size a go and wait for it to fill the cup out a bit more. should I more go with what feels right for the plants needs and be less worried about setting a specific gallon size past the starting cup.

yes go with the size that feels right, establish the plants, solid roots out the bottom of the pot, strong vigor/health , well established roots then upsize.

use your own judgement with the knowledge you now have to choose the right pot size for you.

As a general rule, the leaves of the plant should always be outside the diameter of the pot before up sizing to a larger pot size.

 

[JoeBlow5823]

 

[PadawanWarrior]

I prefer to get it in the final pot as soon as I can. It's a lot less work, and gives me good results. They grow a little slower at first since they are focused on growing roots, but then they take off.

Here's some vegging that we're planted straight into 15gal pots, and there's a 3 in there too since I can't fit more than 2 15's in the 2x4.

 

[RangiSTaxi]

I prefer to get it in the final pot as soon as I can. It's a lot less work, and gives me good results. They grow a little slower at first since they are focused on growing roots, but then they take off.

Here's some vegging that we're planted straight into 15gal pots, and there's a 3 in there too since I can't fit more than 2 15's in the 2x4.
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Im trying to help new growers @JoeBlow5823 @PadawanWarrior , in the perfect circumstances yes you can do it , its it ideal no, the margin of error is higher, as is growth for time, and maybe you yourself can improve your own return for time?

Looking at your setup maybe you too could improve? both of you?

By staging your pot sizes?

 

[growingforfun]

Im trying to help new growers @JoeBlow5823 @PadawanWarrior , in the perfect circumstances yes you can do it , its it ideal no, the margin of error is higher, as is growth for time, and maybe you yourself can improve your own return for time?

Looking at your setup maybe you too could improve? both of you?

By staging your pot sizes?

so long as your not over watering... the smaller pots are really only useful to slow growth down. slowing the growth can be useful for sure, but you will get the fastest growth in larger pots watered correctly in my experiance

 

[PadawanWarrior]

Im trying to help new growers @JoeBlow5823 @PadawanWarrior , in the perfect circumstances yes you can do it , the margin of error is higher, and maybe you yourself can improve your own return for time?

Looking at your setup maybe you too could improve?

You are correct, I'm still learning. The clone only Chem 91 on the left is a newer strain to me, and it's more demanding than the Green Crack.

I've been experimenting with different lights in the 2x4 veg tent, and the proper distance and intensity. I've got a couple new HLG V1 5000k's in there now that I'm playing with. I just took this pic a week and a half ago to show people the new light. I went a little crazy when they still had the V1's for cheap, and so I have more in boxes still. Let's just say I have more lights than I need anymore, lol.

 

[growingforfun]

Well your experience is limited, and what you are saying is not correct.
I have managed 2 of the largest Plant wholesale nurseries in the southern hemisphere (as production manager)

Maybe try what I suggest and see how you do.

ive been doing this over 10 years ive tried it trust me.

 

[RangiSTaxi]

so long as your not over watering... the smaller pots are really only useful to slow growth down. slowing the growth can be useful for sure, but you will get the fastest growth in larger pots watered correctly in my experience

here is a full tent of mine, no wasted space 5 plants 4x4 tent after 5-6 weeks after sowing the seed
Alaskan Purple fem seed, 3 weeks to go till harvest.

 

[growingforfun]

i literally keep things in small containers to keep plants the size i want them. i pot my cuts up from solo cups to either 2 qt, 3 gal, or 5 gal based on the rate of growth i want to feed my perpetual grow. i see the effects of the difference in container size daily, for years.

 

[PadawanWarrior]

so long as your not over watering... the smaller pots are really only useful to slow growth down. slowing the growth can be useful for sure, but you will get the fastest growth in larger pots watered correctly in my experiance

You said it perfectly man.

 

[RangiSTaxi]

i literally keep things in small containers to keep plants the size i want them. i pot my cuts up from solo cups to either 2 qt, 3 gal, or 5 gal based on the rate of growth i want to feed my perpetual grow. i see the effects of the difference in container size daily, for years.

Thats ok keep doing what you do.

Im just trying to help new growers get the best success they can.

 

[growingforfun]

Thats ok keep doing what you do.

Im just trying to help new growers get the best success they can.

ya theres nothing wrong with the advice for a new grower, i just think the corrections i made are valid.

 

[Kassiopeija]

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Nice grow here, but may I ask how many watts did you throw at these seedlings during the next 2 weeks? Electricity costs went up this year from 0.28€ to 0.33€ per kwh which means that, basically the cost of electricity over here has a huge impact on the production costs per gram

the whole thing where people plant in the ground outside seems to kinda disprove your theory here....

Why should it?

In nature roots develop completely different than in any indoor scenario whatsoever....

 

[Greenguyzzz]

Here is a Classic example of what happens if you over pot plants.

Why are all my leaves falling ?

So this is an auto about 9 weeks old but pistols are still white and plant looks as it needs to develop but I’m not sure if the leaves are dying because of it being near the end of life cycle or just plant error?...HELPP

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and this is so common, 40-70 percent of growers here are doing it.

Hey there. I have ALSO heard that planting autos in the same pot to finish flower, as to transplanting can cause “too much stress”.. ‍