mindriot
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i think the F3s are recent.. JBC at least notes which way they lean. I picked up some in December just labelled TKNL5Haze, I believe these are the F2s.
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Nutbag Poster
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Hmm... so maybe I did get misled then. F2s aren't what I wanted for potential breeding plans. I guess maybe it's a good thing as far as the plants I actually get from them. I don't really regret buying them but the F2 part should have been listed if that's what they are. Oh well.
mindriot
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Yea seed banks leave a lot to be desired when listing strain info. You're lucky if you get a flowering range or even the genetic parents.
I don't think you'll be disappointed in those though, more genetic variation in the F2s.
BDGrows
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I always try to order direct when picking up beans, just for that reason. I can explain to AKBB what I want and he does a great job of explaining which strains he recommends. When I ordered my TKNL5Haze from him I asked him what pack he was referring to in his podcast, he said it was his breeder's pack and directed me to it. Honestly though, I think that any of the TKNL5Haze's are going to be fire regardless of what generation they are.
Nutbag Poster
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I really should go through him directly. That's a huge bonus if he has the time to answer a couple of quick questions before you order.
rollinfunk
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he responds pretty quick
Kndreyn
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I assumed the ones we ordered were the ones he talked about in the potcast. JBC had them listed as tknl5haze for $100. There was also the tk/tknl5haze f2 listed for $60. In AK's list he has them listed the same way. The tknl5haze are $100 and the tk/tknl5haze f2 are listed at $60. I guess we'd have to ask AK directly to find out for sure. So far mine are all looking very uniform except one is noticeably more frosty than the others.
Funkentelechy
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There was no designation of F2, or F3, written on the seed pack either. I assume what's written on the pack is done so by AKBB not JBC, therefore I don't think the lack generation designation has anything to do with JBC.
My assumption was that they were F1's, but I really have no idea. I did have a very brief moment of FOMO when I realized there were so many different versions and I really had no idea if the version that I bought was the same as what he referenced in the podcast.
But I'm not actually worried, either way the genes that I was curious about are all in there.
It's all a roll of the dice with any strain, I'm excited to get a chance to see what I get!
My assumption was that they were F1's, but I really have no idea. I did have a very brief moment of FOMO when I realized there were so many different versions and I really had no idea if the version that I bought was the same as what he referenced in the podcast.
But I'm not actually worried, either way the genes that I was curious about are all in there.
It's all a roll of the dice with any strain, I'm excited to get a chance to see what I get!
Kndreyn
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My feelings exactly. To me, it's exciting just to have some of this old school stuff to play with.
SFnone
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it would make sense that they are the same thing... it would be flat out stupid to hype up a strain and sell something that isn't what you are hyping, but with the same label... bad for business.
Kndreyn
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It does get confusing. I'm still confused about the Black Dom crosses. There was the story of the Aussie guy who freaked out on the black dom x tknl5haze and it was supposedly the sohum black dom used, but then he said he never released any sohum crosses. Hoo nose... I just want to grow some good weed haha...
BDGrows
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I snagged one of his vintage BB with the TKNL5Haze x Black Dom for the JBC 420 sale. Truly I'm more curious about the later and seeing as I have both his breeder packs of the TK and the Black Dom, I wonder if I crossed them if I could find similar results, better, or worse potentially. Honestly, though the blueberry is what has really gotten my attention lately (I'm on a blueberry kick at the moment which I'm sure will fade)... His vintage is supposedly original DJ stock which is what I am interested in as it seems no one has been happy with DJ /JD's recent offerings in the blueberry line. It also is supposed to finish like sub 65 days or something like that so it sounds like a real winner. I just hope it bring that old school blueberry muffin smell with that stoney goodness.
Kndreyn
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I had something interesting happen back in the early 2000s, around 2001 I think. I bought DJ's blueberry and one of them branched off shortly after sprouting and made two main stalks. One was very sativa looking and the other indica. The sativa side grew tall and lanky with skinny leaves, the indica side stayed short and had big fat leaves. I know I have some pictures of it somewhere, but finding it might be like a needle in a haystack situation. Neither side was worth keeping though. It just produced little popcorn buds of mediocre weed. Interesting plant though!
colocowboy
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I’ve had this kind of thing happen before too! I had an og chem that had intermixed expressions by branch. I kept it for a few years but it also had a tendency to toss a couple nanners. In retrospect I would like it back despite the instability. Was a very pungent and tasty plant! Was also a producer, over 2 grams/watt with hps ten years ago.
psychadelibud
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Those of you that got the tknl5haze for $100 while the f2s were listed at $60... I'm sure you got the right thing (f1s). I was only speaking for myself, I ordered just plain Jane tknl5haze and when I recieved them they said TK/TKNL5HAZE... But I do have consumption and several other tknl5haze crosses so I'm happy either way lol.
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psychadelibud
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No he didn't say that there were no sohum releases... He said that everything he has put out is either the black dom 95 or the sohum independently. What he has not released is the cross of the two together which is his breeder stock and it is Sohum95 which is a combo of both.
Hope that clears up some confusion!
Yes the story of the Aussie guy, he had sohum black dom x tknl5haze.... NOT sohum95.
psychadelibud
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The vintage blueberry lineage is unknown... it's not DJ short original stock (no one had even heard of DJ short back then), it's an old blueberry cut from Alaska with unknown lineage. I see a lot of people spread misinformation... not referring to you BDgrows... But whoever told you this.
Its supposedly a killer Blueberry cut though! I have it too and I also have a tester of vintage blueberry x great southern trendkill skunk (which is another unknown skunk from alaska that has been around for decades), akbb seems to believe the skunk is definitely an afghani though!
Kndreyn
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Oh I get it now. I was missing the "95" part and was thinking there was just Sohum and 95. The sohum95 was a cross of the two. Makes sense now. Thanks!
Omkarananda
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I got the $100 TKNL5HZ F3 (with no other description) from JBC too. I had 4/5 pop and they all turned out male. I’m glad I don’t have the TK or NL dom though, I was hoping for a blend of all the genetics really. I really want to pop some more too, but I don’t have a lot of room rn. Maybe I’ll just pop 3...
Hope you are all doing great and your gardens are growing out of control!
Hope you are all doing great and your gardens are growing out of control!
BDGrows
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I've always been under the interpretation that DJ "pioneered" the blueberry plant? Although I thought that AKBB discussed his blueberry and said it predated DJ's work but I was unsure if it was true or simply a mistake. From the seedfinder description...
"An Alaskan native strain predating work by DJ Short that is highly rot and mildew resistant and is superb for harsh outdoor climates. Indoors, the plant needs a large pot to stretch out its roots as a constricted base will stress it into an autoflowering state that will show sex. Clean, upbeat, and happy."
Still interesting, I wonder how many blueberry pheno's made it up there or where their origins come from if they weren't from DJ or an offspring of his. Im definitely interested in this blueberry and might pop the pack instead of sitting on it.