Are my seedlings ready for a larger medium?

RaysGreen

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I have a few questions here. Forgive in advance if these have already been answered, but it’s been hard to find a truly clear answer.

I’ve been growing these indicas for about a week now. After they germinated/sprouted I put them in Miracle-Gro soil in these clear plastic cups and have been using a spray bottle to keep them watered. My two biggest questions are 1) At what point should I transplant them to a bigger space/pot, and 2) how much sprays of water should I be giving them.
I’ve read that over doing the water is the biggest killer of plants in the seedling stage, but I can’t help but feel like I’m not giving enough water for some reason. How many sprays and how often should I water?
Thanks in advance for your help. Please feel free to give your general opinions on how the plants look so far and any recommendations you have.
Best,
 

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blake9999

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Cleazr cups are the worse thing you can use. Roots don't like light. Medium looks extremely dry, propably won't survive at taht rate. Water that thing then leave it be. As far up-potting, you have a few weeks to go, if it survives.
 

Jimdamick

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Your going to want to transplant plant into a 3 gallon pot pretty soon, like in a week.
Did you put holes in your cups?
If not, poke some into the bottom of the cups using something sharp so the water will drain.
Simply spraying is not good enough, your soil has to be moist, but not flooded.
Good luck :)
 

PadawanWarrior

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I have a few questions here. Forgive in advance if these have already been answered, but it’s been hard to find a truly clear answer.

I’ve been growing these indicas for about a week now. After they germinated/sprouted I put them in Miracle-Gro soil in these clear plastic cups and have been using a spray bottle to keep them watered. My two biggest questions are 1) At what point should I transplant them to a bigger space/pot, and 2) how much sprays of water should I be giving them.
I’ve read that over doing the water is the biggest killer of plants in the seedling stage, but I can’t help but feel like I’m not giving enough water for some reason. How many sprays and how often should I water?
Thanks in advance for your help. Please feel free to give your general opinions on how the plants look so far and any recommendations you have.
Best,
I would do some research before attempting to grow.

Start here.

So many things I would say you're doing wrong. Miracle Grow, clear cups, not to mention it looks like you're trying to grow them in your closet with barely any lighting. I would do some more reading if I were you.
 

RaysGreen

New Member
Cleazr cups are the worse thing you can use. Roots don't like light. Medium looks extremely dry, propably won't survive at taht rate. Water that thing then leave it be. As far up-potting, you have a few weeks to go, if it survives.
Thanks for the feedback. I didn’t know that about the roots. I added a good amount of water this morning. Hopefully they can recover
 

RaysGreen

New Member
Your going to want to transplant plant into a 3 gallon pot pretty soon, like in a week.
Did you put holes in your cups?
If not, poke some into the bottom of the cups using something sharp so the water will drain.
Simply spraying is not good enough, your soil has to be moist, but not flooded.
Good luck :)
Thanks for the tip. I went ahead and added some holes as well as added a good amount water to get it moist. I saw a lot of people saying most over do watering and guess I over compensated on not watering.
 

RaysGreen

New Member
Cleazr cups are the worse thing you can use. Roots don't like light. Medium looks extremely dry, propably won't survive at taht rate. Water that thing then leave it be. As far up-potting, you have a few weeks to go, if it survives.
I would do some research before attempting to grow.

Start here.

So many things I would say you're doing wrong. Miracle Grow, clear cups, not to mention it looks like you're trying to grow them in your closet with barely any lighting. I would do some more reading if I were you.
For sure. It was definitely half baked effort on my part. I had read a little bit advising against miracle gro before, and obviously growing in the closet is not the most recommended place lol. I was trying to see if I could get a somewhat legit plant goin without a Ton of attention on it if that makes sense.

Will be investing more into it as far as lights, mediums and grow box sometime this week.
 

FlyHigh589

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For sure. It was definitely half baked effort on my part. I had read a little bit advising against miracle gro before, and obviously growing in the closet is not the most recommended place lol. I was trying to see if I could get a somewhat legit plant goin without a Ton of attention on it if that makes sense.

Will be investing more into it as far as lights, mediums and grow box sometime this week.
You absolutely can setup an efficient closet grow that would take minimal time to actually maintain. Unfortunately, you will need to study up a fair amount first, and spend atleast a fair amount of cash on necessaties...

If you have already decided on doing a dirt grow, as opposed to a coco or more traditional “hydroponic” grow, which is actually very simple to set up on a small scale, don’t let the termInology make it seem confusing. But if you have decided on dirt, I recommend a more cannabis-aimed soil as they often are amended with nutrients that are ideal for cannabis and many even time release over a period of time. Something like FoxFarm Ocean Forest is a very simple to use soil that works well for cannabis. And there is a basic FoxFarm 3 pack of nutrients (additional “special” bottles also in the same line, but not necessary) that I would recommend picking up to start using around week 4-5.

Most importantly, you need a good light. If there is only ONE thing you can spend extra cash on, spend it on lighting. Just get the best you can; I’m partial to quantum board and cob frames that I assemble, but there are plenty of great choices for a beginner that are all in one units!

A decent light timer is also necessary unless you want to flip a switch a couple times a day at same time every day.. anyhow, if you are going to grow in soil, you can temporarily skip out on a pH meter and a ppm meter, as long as you go very light with any nutrients you use later In it’s life.

A good 65 watt 6500 kelvin T5 bulb is PERFECT for a small closet seedling stage. Ideally, keep the light just a few inches above the top of the seedling, make sure it’s not too warm tho! Ideal conditions for your closet grow should be around 40-55% humidity and 76-79 degrees or there about.

Anyhow, that’s some spots to atleast get ya started! Ask away if ya need any specific help, plenty of great people who will be happy to help on here.
 

RaysGreen

New Member
You absolutely can setup an efficient closet grow that would take minimal time to actually maintain. Unfortunately, you will need to study up a fair amount first, and spend atleast a fair amount of cash on necessaties...

If you have already decided on doing a dirt grow, as opposed to a coco or more traditional “hydroponic” grow, which is actually very simple to set up on a small scale, don’t let the termInology make it seem confusing. But if you have decided on dirt, I recommend a more cannabis-aimed soil as they often are amended with nutrients that are ideal for cannabis and many even time release over a period of time. Something like FoxFarm Ocean Forest is a very simple to use soil that works well for cannabis. And there is a basic FoxFarm 3 pack of nutrients (additional “special” bottles also in the same line, but not necessary) that I would recommend picking up to start using around week 4-5.

Most importantly, you need a good light. If there is only ONE thing you can spend extra cash on, spend it on lighting. Just get the best you can; I’m partial to quantum board and cob frames that I assemble, but there are plenty of great choices for a beginner that are all in one units!

A decent light timer is also necessary unless you want to flip a switch a couple times a day at same time every day.. anyhow, if you are going to grow in soil, you can temporarily skip out on a pH meter and a ppm meter, as long as you go very light with any nutrients you use later In it’s life.

A good 65 watt 6500 kelvin T5 bulb is PERFECT for a small closet seedling stage. Ideally, keep the light just a few inches above the top of the seedling, make sure it’s not too warm tho! Ideal conditions for your closet grow should be around 40-55% humidity and 76-79 degrees or there about.

Anyhow, that’s some spots to atleast get ya started! Ask away if ya need any specific help, plenty of great people who will be happy to help on here.
Thank you for the detailed response! I just ordered the fox farm soil as well as a grow box to set up a good light in. Will it have a positive effect to go ahead and transfer the seedlings into the fox farm soil when it gets here? (I need to put them in a larger space asap I think the roots are getting a bit constrained). And what’s the best way to control humidity? Looking forward to studying up a bit more and getting these plants going
 

FlyHigh589

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Honestly, I would say fox farm would be a tad bit too hot for seedlings at that stage, but within 5-7 days, they should be okay to put into a 1(my opinion) gallon pot, then from there to a 3,5, or 7 depending on size restrictions. You need to keep that seedling under a high kelvin light, preferably T5 fluorescent, and add a splash of water every other day or so, just go by cup weight, let it dry up a bit, but don’t let it actually dry out. Should be fine with just tap water for the next several days, it’s still very young and the cotyledons will provide the nutrients it needs to start its first true set of leaves. Shortly after that, your ready to up-pot into your FFOF and start up with plain water for atleast the first month-ish.
And about humidity control; how is your ambient conditions? Many people on these forums grow in Western US (legal states obviously) and tend to deal with dryer conditions and often colder temperatures, I grow on the east coast in the Carolinas and often have to deal with high humidity and higher heat. For me, I use multiple 70 pint/day dehumidifiers in our grow op and a set of 2 ton mini-split ac units, as well as cob and quantum board lighting to reduce heat output. Someone growing in high altitude Colorado, however, may use humidifiers and choose to use HPS or CMH lighting intentionally to help with helping keep temperatures nice and warm.
It really will all depend with your ambient conditions and budget. Wish ya the best of luck, friend!
 

PadawanWarrior

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Thank you for the detailed response! I just ordered the fox farm soil as well as a grow box to set up a good light in. Will it have a positive effect to go ahead and transfer the seedlings into the fox farm soil when it gets here? (I need to put them in a larger space asap I think the roots are getting a bit constrained). And what’s the best way to control humidity? Looking forward to studying up a bit more and getting these plants going
FFOF is good stuff. It's a little strong for seedlings, but they should adapt. Light Warrior or Happy Frog is a little better for the little ones, but you could also flush out some of the excess nutes in the FFOF before you transplant to make it a little easier on em.

I actually started in FFOF that I've since turned into no-till. I'm on like round 6 now.
 
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