Buddies, side-light and under-canopy LEDs

Kassiopeija

Well-Known Member
I'm already seeing evidence of it. There's quite a bit of light in the lower canopy now where there wasn't any before, and it has had an obvious effect. I don't expect these Buddies to be as efficient as the High Lights I'm using, but they're not designed to be the most efficient LEDs on the planet: they're designed to be rugged, waterproof, flexible lighting that can be mounted almost anywhere you need a bit of light. And I love the fact they come in different spectra. In fact, if I could use only one colour I would probably choose the CRI95 4000K.
indeed it seems obvious that the plant is going to respond to added light. I think those sidelights in veg will also make sidebranches less elongated as the top leaves do not block so much
 

hybridway2

Amare Shill
Come on mate, WTF are you smoking? How are you going to replace these with strips? I've got nothing against side-canopy strip lighting etc, but you haven't really thought this out, have you? You can't grow plants into strips – they will burn the fuck out of your plants. And I would love to know how you will make them waterproof and fire-resistant for putting them under the canopy where dead leaves and other shit will fall on them. And how are you going to make them flexible? And show me a strip that's as tough as that photo @Grow Lights Australia just posted.

As for cost, show me the money!!!

But in all seriousness, if you thought TEKNIK hated you before, well he's gunna go apoplectic when he reads this shit ^

o_O
Not so much saying replace them with strips. They obviously are much more durable & rugged. I'm all about that.
I just feel he could have provided 90 cri in variable colors using a Ribbon of waterproof (boating series) mid-power strips.
I only thought to say this because i have been tinkering with diy ideas & came across Ribbons of strip lighting (many options from many companies). They cn be cut in increments of 2", ect. Depending on what you ask for. They make every connector possible, its snap n go & pretty inexpensive.
I feel he would be well off to customize a snap ribbon too or instead when it comes to production.
And yes, you can grow right up to strips w/o burning. Did it for 2 yrs using the SunCloak.
Would be nice if I could join the convo w/o you guys assuming i am playing Anti-Teknik.
I think the Buddies are cool & a great idea.
Just throwing out another option pre-existing that i think he could soup up nicely.
Just an example. Not the specs n all the connector parts here but you get my drift?


All connectors & accessories you can imagine.


I'm sure you can get any nm if you look around or ask for custom.
I do not believe in Cob Salads for supplementing its unless lying around & i have nothing else.
If Teknik implemented these as his concept then they would be more useful to me personally is all.
NOT knocking Buddies although i find it an ironic name. Lol!!
 
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Airwalker16

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Yes, I think we all know about strips and lenses, but they are not exactly the same form factor as Buddies, are they? They don't come in the same colours (targeted PAR range), they can't be cut, they're not flexible, they're not self-adhesive, and you need to do a bit of work with them – even if you have lenses – to make them waterproof. And what about the price?

I'll tell you what else you can do with Buddies that you can't do with strips: run them over in a car! 61Falcon, on another forum, ran over them in his 4x4! They are tough!
Cutter can make a strip with any color you could ever want.
 

Airwalker16

Well-Known Member
still not waterproof. have you ever used strips down there? i did. both from the sides and from down below. both ways a huge PITA when you spray. and you usually can‘t move them away as easily as your top lights.
Spraying in flower is something I'd try to avoid
 

Prawn Connery

Well-Known Member
Not so much saying replace them with strips. They obviously are much more durable & rugged. I'm all about that.
I just feel he could have provided 90 cri in variable colors using a Ribbon of waterproof (boating series) mid-power strips.
I only thought to say this because i have been tinkering with diy ideas & came across Ribbons of strip lighting (many options from many companies). They cn be cut in increments of 2", ect. Depending on what you ask for. They make every connector possible, its snap n go & pretty inexpensive.
I feel he would be well off to customize a snap ribbon too or instead when it comes to production.
And yes, you can grow right up to strips w/o burning. Did it for 2 yrs using the SunCloak.
Would be nice if I could join the convo w/o you guys assuming i am playing Anti-Teknik.
I think the Buddies are cool & a great idea.
Just throwing out another option pre-existing that i think he could soup up nicely.
Just an example. Not the specs n all the connector parts here but you get my drift?


All connectors & accessories you can imagine.


I'm sure you can get any nm if you look around or ask for custom.
I do not believe in Cob Salads for supplementing its unless lying around & i have nothing else.
If Teknik implemented these as his concept then they would be more useful to me personally is all.
NOT knocking Buddies although i find it an ironic name. Lol!!
They might be more useful to you, but personally I know what I'd rather use. For a start, ribbons are flimsy and not as flexible. They are nowhere near as durable and they're not even cheaper than Buddies (certainly not according to the link you posted). They are not diffused, and the colours appear to be mostly generic CRI75 – they're not even in the same league as the LEDs TEKNIK uses (and as mentioned, there will be other PAR-friendly colours coming out with the production run).

No-one's trying to exclude you from the conversation mate – all are welcome to post in my threads – but if you go back and read your post, it did come off as quite churlish and you can obviously tell I was a bit annoyed by the tone of it.

Look, each to their own, but if you think ribbon strips are the answer you know there's no-one stopping you from producing them yourself. But I'll tell you now (from experience), it's not as easy as you might think it is.
 

Prawn Connery

Well-Known Member
Cutter can make a strip with any color you could ever want.
So can TEKNIK, so I don't understand your point. You quoted a post and didn't address anything in it :???:

Spraying in flower is something I'd try to avoid
Why? There's nothing wrong with foliar spraying in flower if you need to. You do realise that cannabis plants evolved in the tropics where it rains all the time. You do know they flower in autumn when its most likely to rain at other latitudes. If you have good airflow, you have nothing to worry about.
 

hybridway2

Amare Shill
They might be more useful to you, but personally I know what I'd rather use. For a start, ribbons are flimsy and not as flexible. They are nowhere near as durable and they're not even cheaper than Buddies (certainly not according to the link you posted). They are not diffused, and the colours appear to be mostly generic CRI75 – they're not even in the same league as the LEDs TEKNIK uses (and as mentioned, there will be other PAR-friendly colours coming out with the production run).

No-one's trying to exclude you from the conversation mate – all are welcome to post in my threads – but if you go back and read your post, it did come off as quite churlish and you can obviously tell I was a bit annoyed by the tone of it.

Look, each to their own, but if you think ribbon strips are the answer you know there's no-one stopping you from producing them yourself. But I'll tell you now (from experience), it's not as easy as you might think it is.
Yeah, i noticed you seemed a lil T'd off but i assure you, that was not my intention nor was knocking the Buddies.
Recently only just began to look into diy.
The link i posted you was only the first thing that pooped up on the sliding pics at the top when googled. The nicer, efficient ones are available, i just don't know how to find them in my phone fast to link. That was just a rough example of what i felt Teknik could be beefing up. I'm not saying anything as rugged as a Buddy is readily available in sectional strips or ribbons nor am i saying the nm's & BroadBands are either.
Simply suggesting he considers that as an option to adding hos touch to because i for one would be more interseted. And i doubt I'm the only one. Nice to have options is all.
Being a text or post it may have came off sour but was not meant to.
 

Prawn Connery

Well-Known Member
Yeah, i noticed you seemed a lil T'd off but i assure you, that was not my intention nor was knocking the Buddies.
Recently only just began to look into diy.
The link i posted you was only the first thing that pooped up on the sliding pics at the top when googled. The nicer, efficient ones are available, i just don't know how to find them in my phone fast to link. That was just a rough example of what i felt Teknik could be beefing up. I'm not saying anything as rugged as a Buddy is readily available in sectional strips or ribbons nor am i saying the nm's & BroadBands are either.
Simply suggesting he considers that as an option to adding hos touch to because i for one would be more interseted. And i doubt I'm the only one. Nice to have options is all.
Being a text or post it may have came off sour but was not meant to.
Mate, as I said, it's a diverse world and we all have (and are entitled to) our own opinions. You just came off a bit rude is all and so maybe I was a bit harsh, but Teknik has been in the industry for a while now and I suspect if there was a better way of doing something, he probably would have done it. Anyway, now I'm starting to sound like a fanboi. :oops:
 

Airwalker16

Well-Known Member
I'm not bad mouthing the buddies. They're very cool and definitely durable. But I think a strip would be more spread and even light across the entire length of your tent. You would t need to "stick" them to anything. Ple to of ways to get it mounted were you want whether it's hanging from the top frame bar with fishing line, supporting it from u underneath, or indeed using double sided thermal tape, or regular double sided tape.
 

sethimus

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I'm not bad mouthing the buddies. They're very cool and definitely durable. But I think a strip would be more spread and even light across the entire length of your tent. You would t need to "stick" them to anything. Ple to of ways to get it mounted were you want whether it's hanging from the top frame bar with fishing line, supporting it from u underneath, or indeed using double sided thermal tape, or regular double sided tape.
then off you go, use the stripes. nobody is stopping you from making your own experiences
 

Airwalker16

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then off you go, use the stripes. nobody is stopping you from making your own experiences
Really just adding to the conversation here, Seth. Not trying to prove anything. Side, under, and intra-canopy lighting is something I think everyone on the forum would benefit from so I'm just exploring some other options. I appreciate your civility today, man. It's refreshing.
 

Bignutes

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I like both the buddies and ribbon style. One thing about the ribbons is it would be Christmas every time I'd go into the flower room, maybe even put some ornamental balls. Can you imagine a ribbon lighted cannabis Christmas tree? Hmmmm, nice idea hybrid!

I should have taken Teknik up on his offer, was just too busy and didn't know the mate well enough to execute the freebie offer, by the sounds of it he's a good one.
 

end_of_the_tunnel

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The PC red is nice as the trailing edge has relatively high SPD into the 680 area
Cheers
The trailing edge of Tekniks PC Red, provides significant contribution beyond 680.

Practically obviating the need for standalone Far Red in general, as an addendum to the generic white led we see repurposed for indoor growing.

If PC Red was offered in smaller 3030/2835, possibly we would see uptake and volumes of units sold increased. A potential home run for Teknik, assemblers and end users. Teknik could be overwhelmed with demand if the economics were right for all interested parties.

Apologies @Prawn Connery for the slight diversion. I think this thread is a good start to show casing potential to a wider audience.
 
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