defficiancy or lockout/burn?

hello all, I have an ethos genetics rainmaker starting its 6th week of flower. Ever since the end of week 4 it has seemed to be showing signs of either some sort of deficiency or lockout/burn, but I can't tell if this has been caused by too much food or too little. I have a little over 1.5 years of growing experience, and in that relatively short period of time, I have never had a plant show these particular symptoms. When it first started a little over a week ago I noticed that it was showing what looked like tip burn, but at the same time, the leaves were starting to look deficient. before flipping it into flower I topdressed with a blend of down to earth's bio-live mix, seabird guano, kelp meal, azomite, fishbone meal, and langbeinite that I had mixed to achieve a 1-3-2 ratio, I also added a teaspoon of oyster shell for calcium. I water every other day with RO water that I remineralize with ph-balanced trace mineral drops. 1-2 times a week I water with a basic tea that I brew from compost, worm castings, a little bit of kelp meal, and a little bit of molasses. I tend to add some of roots organics budda bloom and/or some of bio-biz's bio-bloom to every other batch of tea/as needed, at never more than 1 tbs per gallon. Sometimes after feeding, it seems to make the tip burn ever so slightly worse, but the change (if there is any) is so subtle that I'm not sure if its just my imagination or not. I have a blue dream that has been fed exactly the same, in the same medium and it is doing great. I'm growing in coco based potting soil. I can't figure out if I'm giving it too much or too little food, or if this is due to something else and any help would be greatly appreciated! Also, the light I use is at 3000k, as a reference when looking at the photos.
 

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cardgenius

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Sounds like it’s more sensitive to nutrients than the other plant so definitely cut back on feeding. Anytime you see the tips of the leafs like you see, then you have nute burn from too much feeding, which is now leading to lockout and is why the leafs are yellowing.

You shouldn’t need to feed the compost tea as often since you also top dress. Just do it once a week or two and it’ll be good. A good top dressing should keep the plant happy for 3-4 weeks.
 
Sounds like it’s more sensitive to nutrients than the other plant so definitely cut back on feeding. Anytime you see the tips of the leafs like you see, then you have nute burn from too much feeding, which is now leading to lockout and is why the leafs are yellowing.

You shouldn’t need to feed the compost tea as often since you also top dress. Just do it once a week or two and it’ll be good. A good top dressing should keep the plant happy for 3-4 weeks.
Thank you for your input, I appreciate it!! hope you are staying healthy
 

PadawanWarrior

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Just remember, dry organic nutes take awhile to break down. Some take longer than others. You might be overdoing it.
 
Just remember, dry organic nutes take awhile to break down. Some take longer than others. You might be overdoing it.
Thank you for your reply! I think I may have overdone it with the bottled food. in the past iv only done topdressings, but I decided to try doing less heavy of a topdress this time in conjunction with trying to supplement with the bottled organic nutes, as sometimes I've had plants start to fade a little too early with topdressing, and once you're at mid flower topdressing again would be superfluous. I guess it will just take some more trail and error to dial that in. Thank you both for helping me reach the conclution that im likly overfeeding! I thoght it may have been a zin defficiancy due to seeing the tips+it looking defficiant, but now I think overfeeding makes a lot more sence. I'm just going to use plain water for a bit and see how she does. thank you both!
 

osowhom

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hello all, I have an ethos genetics rainmaker starting its 6th week of flower. Ever since the end of week 4 it has seemed to be showing signs of either some sort of deficiency or lockout/burn, but I can't tell if this has been caused by too much food or too little. I have a little over 1.5 years of growing experience, and in that relatively short period of time, I have never had a plant show these particular symptoms. When it first started a little over a week ago I noticed that it was showing what looked like tip burn, but at the same time, the leaves were starting to look deficient. before flipping it into flower I topdressed with a blend of down to earth's bio-live mix, seabird guano, kelp meal, azomite, fishbone meal, and langbeinite that I had mixed to achieve a 1-3-2 ratio, I also added a teaspoon of oyster shell for calcium. I water every other day with RO water that I remineralize with ph-balanced trace mineral drops. 1-2 times a week I water with a basic tea that I brew from compost, worm castings, a little bit of kelp meal, and a little bit of molasses. I tend to add some of roots organics budda bloom and/or some of bio-biz's bio-bloom to every other batch of tea/as needed, at never more than 1 tbs per gallon. Sometimes after feeding, it seems to make the tip burn ever so slightly worse, but the change (if there is any) is so subtle that I'm not sure if its just my imagination or not. I have a blue dream that has been fed exactly the same, in the same medium and it is doing great. I'm growing in coco based potting soil. I can't figure out if I'm giving it too much or too little food, or if this is due to something else and any help would be greatly appreciated! Also, the light I use is at 3000k, as a reference when looking at the photos.
how did the rainmakers turn out? i have 3 i just switched to flower using the exact same method just curious if i should hold back on the bottled stuff?
 
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