What are YOU hoarding for Corona Virus?

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greg nr said:
Well, look at Italy. we will be there in a few weeks. They have hospitals that are so stressed, they turn away sick people in need of emergency care. They just can't take on more critically ill people. They tell them to go home and wait.

Remember, these aren't just sick people. These are people who will die without medical care. Go home and wait.

So when your healthy young ass has a car accident, or falls off a bar stool, or gets into a fight, or shoots itself cleaning your gun.. and needs major/minor yet important care... Go home and wait. Concussion? Tumor? Spitting up blood after an accident. Sorry, no room here for you.

Need a script to get drugs? Sorry, too busy, the infection will take care of itself.

So yeah, young and healthy people never die without medical care for something not related to a virus. Ever.
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My sister almost did not make it when she caught SARS (a form of covid). She is a prime candidate for the covid-19 death rate. That was years ago and she still has trouble with her lungs, talked to her today about it, they are hurting her right now. So even if you survive you may not get away unscathed.

From The Lancet (medical journal) this week,

"In this COVID-19 outbreak, the major risk for patients with cancer is the inability to receive necessary medical services (both in terms of getting to hospital and provision of normal medical care once there) because of the outbreak.

Patients are also advised not to visit hospitals because of infection risk. Consequently, some clinical trials are being delayed; enforced quarantine, as is widely the case in Wuhan, complicates hospital attendance for repeat appointments and continuity in care, and when severe complications or emergencies occur in patients with advanced cancers, treatment delays or unavailability are possible concerns. Adverse effects among patients who receive immune checkpoint inhibitors (such as for severe myocarditis and pneumonitis) are more challenging to diagnose and might not be treated promptly, which might affect their survival."

Came across this tidbit.

"The United States, for example, has said it has about 12 million, but needs roughly 300 million." N-95 masks for is medical community.
 
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My sister almost did not make it when she caught SARS (a form of covid). She is a prime candidate for the covid-19 death rate. That was years ago and she still has trouble with her lungs, talked to her today about it, they are hurting her right now. So even if you survive you may not get away unscathed.

From The Lancet (medical journal) this week,

"In this COVID-19 outbreak, the major risk for patients with cancer is the inability to receive necessary medical services (both in terms of getting to hospital and provision of normal medical care once there) because of the outbreak.

Patients are also advised not to visit hospitals because of infection risk. Consequently, some clinical trials are being delayed; enforced quarantine, as is widely the case in Wuhan, complicates hospital attendance for repeat appointments and continuity in care, and when severe complications or emergencies occur in patients with advanced cancers, treatment delays or unavailability are possible concerns. Adverse effects among patients who receive immune checkpoint inhibitors (such as for severe myocarditis and pneumonitis) are more challenging to diagnose and might not be treated promptly, which might affect their survival."

Came across this tidbit.

"The United States, for example, has said it has about 12 million, but needs roughly 300 million." N-95 masks for is medical community.
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Best of luck to your family in this, I hope everything turns out well.
 
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hanimmal said:
Best of luck to your family in this, I hope everything turns out well.
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Thanks, I would really miss her. Her problem is she can not sit on her hands, she is also an artist and has three commissions in schools to teach art. As a poor starving artist (well, she gets by, it pays the bills) she gets most of her income with these teaching gigs. She knows she is in potential danger, probably more than most of us would understand (she was in a hospital bed on the river, and while her body was shutting down looked out at the river with all the beluga whales feeding, thinking "They are so beautiful."). I am hoping that if things do get squirrely that they will shut the schools down.

I read some more on the covid-19, seems that if you get to the point of needing to be put on a respirator you have a 46% chance of not making it, none of the drugs they have to normally trate this kind of thing have been working. One drug that is used to treat Ebola has limited success. No kids below 12 have died, thankfully it has been the worst for old people. The nursing home in Washington, if they assume every resident there caught the virus, it would have a 22% death rate.

Gee, I am a bundle of laughs, ain't I? It is partly due to my spending some of my work day making sure the iso rooms do their job, also picked up a rare affliction in the hospital and had to do my own research so I am not too bad looking up stuff in medical circles. And it is not like the powers that be have been keeping us well informed.
 
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“ Open Windows.“ “ Don't Share Food.”.... Here's the Government's Coronavirus Advice..... :wall:

Every year since taking office, Trump has asked for deep cuts into research on emerging diseases – including the CDC’s small center on emerging and “zoonotic” infectious diseases that jump the species barrier from animals to humans. The new coronavirus is just the latest example of these threats.

The CDC’s program focuses on infectious diseases ranging from foodborne illnesses to anthrax and Ebola. It manages laboratory, epidemiologic, analytic and prevention programs, and collaborates with state and local health departments, other federal government agencies, industry and foreign ministries of health.

In 2018, Trump tried to cut $65 million from this budget – a 10% reduction. In 2019, he sought a 19% reduction. For 2020, he proposed to cut federal spending on emerging infectious and zoonotic diseases by 20%. This would mean spending $100 million less in 2020 to study how such diseases infect humans than the US did just two years ago.

Many don’t get or have “ sick pay “ ...... but PENCE pushes prayer.

Get rid of the “ TRUMP VIRUS “ .... in November.
That “ scorched earth “ scenario some of you mentioned is here.
 
mytwhyt

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I panicked early, stocked up on everything to beat the rush.... Could make a bundle if I sold now..
 
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What'd I tell ya? Fortress USA. Next is the Mexican border. Wait, then the auto companies won't be able to bring in trucks.

“We will be suspending all travel from Europe to the United States for the next 30 days,” President Trump said, adding “the new rules will go into effect Friday at midnight. These restrictions will be adjusted subject to conditions on the ground. There will be exemptions for Americans who have undergone appropriate screenings. And these prohibitions will not only apply to the tremendous amount of trade and cargo, but various other things as we get approval.”

He finally got his tariff wall against Europe. At least that is what he said, That was not in the executive order he signed. Mind you, he has the power of the pen and can do it any time he wants. Hard to justify it when researchers found the following. But what does science have to do with it?

"They found that viable virus could be detected up to three hours later in the air, up to four hours on copper, up to 24 hours on cardboard and up to two to three days on plastic and stainless steel."

So he is getting his tariff through by the back door. Take that you stinky Europeans.

One other thing,

"Finally, the address alluded to an agreement between the White House and U.S. insurers that would have them “waive all [fees for] coronavirus treatments,” but according to a spokesperson for the insurance lobby, the copayment waiver is only, “For testing. Not for treatment.”
 
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What'd I tell ya? Fortress USA. Next is the Mexican border. Wait, then the auto companies won't be able to bring in trucks.

“We will be suspending all travel from Europe to the United States for the next 30 days,” President Trump said, adding “the new rules will go into effect Friday at midnight. These restrictions will be adjusted subject to conditions on the ground. There will be exemptions for Americans who have undergone appropriate screenings. And these prohibitions will not only apply to the tremendous amount of trade and cargo, but various other things as we get approval.”

He finally got his tariff wall against Europe. At least that is what he said, That was not in the executive order he signed. Mind you, he has the power of the pen and can do it any time he wants. Hard to justify it when researchers found the following. But what does science have to do with it?

"They found that viable virus could be detected up to three hours later in the air, up to four hours on copper, up to 24 hours on cardboard and up to two to three days on plastic and stainless steel."

So he is getting his tariff through by the back door. Take that you stinky Europeans.

One other thing,

"Finally, the address alluded to an agreement between the White House and U.S. insurers that would have them “waive all [fees for] coronavirus treatments,” but according to a spokesperson for the insurance lobby, the copayment waiver is only, “For testing. Not for treatment.”
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He has excluded the countries he has businesses in. So gritting continues.
 
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