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Wzrdovoddz

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Hey y’all,

This is my sfv og plant week 4 day 2 In flower and I’m noticing noticing this discolouration. I know late flower this would be normal but not sure why it’s happening now. I’m using advanced nutrients micro/bloom Lucas formula with rhino skin b52 big bud bud candy and sensizym. I got a 1200w cob led on her in a 7g pot. Please help thanks
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xtsho

xtsho

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If you're using rhino skin, b52, big bud, bud candy, and sensizym then you're not doing anything close to the "Lucas" formula.

Who knows what's going on with all that stuff your dumping on your plants. If you're in soil just give them plain water for a while. If in coco just feed base nutrients at half strength for a while. You can't just dump a bunch of crap on your plants and expect them to be healthy. :wall:


Any deficiency you might be having is from overfeeding.
 
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Wzrdovoddz

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xtsho said:
If you're using rhino skin, b52, big bud, bud candy, and sensizym then you're not doing anything close to the "Lucas" formula.

Who knows what's going on with all that stuff your dumping on your plants. If you're in soil just give them plain water for a while. If in coco just feed base nutrients at half strength for a while. You can't just dump a bunch of crap on your plants and expect them to be healthy. :wall:


Any deficiency you might be having is from overfeeding.
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lucas formula is for the base nutrients then you can add supplements after that if you want. Not looking for criticism just help. And I have 4 other plants in the same room in flower with absolutely no issues using same nutrients I listed above.
 
OldMedUser

OldMedUser

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That looks more like the natural colouration the plant takes on. Seems early but doesn't look like a deficiency to me.

The way I look at Lucas Formula is the amount of base nutes used in a 0-1-2 ratio. Supplements are fine and don't detract from the fact that the Lucas method is being applied to the base nute feeding. I don't start feeding Lucas style until after the stretch tho as the plants still use a lot of N during that growth spurt and I see no signs of nute burn in your pics.

What's your media? I don't waste money on Bud Candy when some molasses will do the same thing. It's just going to feed the micro-herd and if in soilless or hydro it won't make any real difference. In hydro it can cause an algae bloom and mess things up big time. I bought vit B-1 tabs to grind up an feed the plants as it's the only B vitamin the plants really need. I toss in a couple of of B-Complex too just to be sure tho, :)

You might just have a deep purple pheno there and maybe do a stem rub and see what she smells like. Grape soda would be cool. lol

:peace:
 
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Wzrdovoddz

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Haha thanks man
OldMedUser said:
That looks more like the natural colouration the plant takes on. Seems early but doesn't look like a deficiency to me.

The way I look at Lucas Formula is the amount of base nutes used in a 0-1-2 ratio. Supplements are fine and don't detract from the fact that the Lucas method is being applied to the base nute feeding. I don't start feeding Lucas style until after the stretch tho as the plants still use a lot of N during that growth spurt and I see no signs of nute burn in your pics.

What's your media? I don't waste money on Bud Candy when some molasses will do the same thing. It's just going to feed the micro-herd and if in soilless or hydro it won't make any real difference. In hydro it can cause an algae bloom and mess things up big time. I bought vit B-1 tabs to grind up an feed the plants as it's the only B vitamin the plants really need. I toss in a couple of of B-Complex too just to be sure tho, :)

You might just have a deep purple pheno there and maybe do a stem rub and see what she smells like. Grape soda would be cool. lol

:peace:
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Haha thanks man that’s what i was trying to explain to xtsho. Ya it seems like just natural coloration but I do feel that she may have needed a bit more N since I switched to Lucas week prior to flip. My media is promix hp with micorhizae
 
OldMedUser

OldMedUser

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Wzrdovoddz said:
Haha thanks man
Haha thanks man that’s what i was trying to explain to xtsho. Ya it seems like just natural coloration but I do feel that she may have needed a bit more N since I switched to Lucas week prior to flip. My media is promix hp with micorhizae
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I've used HP for years but don't really consider the myco to be an advantage when using AN 3-part to feed. If the HP is any older than about 6 months the myco is most likely useless so would need to add more. The last couple years I've been experimenting with adding organics and extra myco to it but that's going nowhere so going back to straight HP and AN nutes.

I have used the Big Bud since they started making it and tried a couple other supplements like OverDrive which I found useless. Got a 500ml bottle of Bud Factor X for free and no noticable difference there either. Maybe you have to use the whole 'Tribe' for each trio of supplements to work properly but screw that. I just use the 3-part, Big Bud and a bit of Rhino Skin mainly for DWC. Got some REMO CalMag last time but any will do. A little Epsom Salts and various vitamin and mineral supplements that I take myself round out my nute catalogue.

I won some MegaCrop nutes a year ago here and they seem pretty good. I haven't been pHing them but when I first got them they came out pH 6.0 with RO water and 6.5 with my hard dugout water that is 8+ out of the spigot and 400 ppm. So they seem to buffer well.

If your other plants are doing fine them maybe that one is a bit of a mutant or just a pheno displaying a latent gene the others don't show. Looks great otherwise.

:peace:
 
OldMedUser

OldMedUser

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Grow So High said:
Red stems usually happens from cooler temps and a number of other things. I’ve never seen a relation with red stems and a magnesium deficiency. Are the leaves Affected starting to dry out?
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A Mg deficiency is going to show up in older fan leaves long before it shows in the tops so very unlikely to be low Mg.

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Grow So High

Grow So High

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Lol In my second message I did not say it was a magnesium deficiency I was genuinely trying to get more information. Doesn’t seem like anyone can pin point what is going on in your situation. You seem defensive to help
 
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Wzrdovoddz

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Grow So High said:
Lol In my second message I did not say it was a magnesium deficiency I was genuinely trying to get more information. Doesn’t seem like anyone can pin point what is going on in your situation. You seem defensive to help
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Hey sorry if I seem defensive. Certainly not my intention just trying to figure out what is going on. I absolutely appreciate your feedback and I am open to any and all suggestions.
 
Aussieaceae

Aussieaceae

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You have a bit of a soup going on there with your nutrient profile imvho. All those other additives have nutritional value and a couple probably extra npk as well. This needs to be considered and factored in with your Lucas formula.
I don't think plain water once would hurt as suggested above unless hydro, what is the grow media you're using? That's important to mention.

When unsure of what the problem is it's best to scale back to your base feed. I'd try the Lucas on it's own and see what happens.
Cut the EC back a bit.
 
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Wzrdovoddz

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Aussieaceae said:
You have a bit of a soup going on there with your nutrient profile imvho. All those other additives have nutritional value and a couple probably extra npk as well. This needs to be considered and factored in with your Lucas formula.
I don't think plain water once would hurt as suggested above unless hydro, what is the grow media you're using? That's important to mention.

When unsure of what the problem is it's best to scale back to your base feed. I'd try the Lucas on it's own and see what happens.
Cut the EC back a bit.
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Ok sounds good. And I’m using promix hp with micorhizae
 
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