Anyone use the Derek Gilman auto cure system vs. jars

[StonedGimp]

I’m getting ready to harvest my plants and I’m trying to decide how I should dry and cure everything. I think I’m going to wet trim then hang for a few days until they’re ready for jars or buckets but I can’t decide what I should do next. I’m paralyzed and my hands don’t really work the greatest, so burping several jars everyday is going to be a major hassle. I ran across Derek’s bucket air pump system and it looks like something I could handle and build easily but I can’t really find information from others who are using it. Thanks and any help would be appreciated

 

[rob333]

I’m getting ready to harvest my plants and I’m trying to decide how I should dry and cure everything. I think I’m going to wet trim then hang for a few days until they’re ready for jars or buckets but I can’t decide what I should do next. I’m paralyzed and my hands don’t really work the greatest, so burping several jars everyday is going to be a major hassle. I ran across Derek’s bucket air pump system and it looks like something I could handle and build easily but I can’t really find information from others who are using it. Thanks and any help would be appreciated

just pack it all in large buckets what i do just make sure to toss it every couple of days

 

[LinguaPeel]

Wet trim = not curing. The bakery don't need to cut your crusts, the orchard ain't peeling your oranges, the concept of trimmed weed is a black market remnant from the 8k lb days. Its much easier to form a pile of cured leaves while busting the bud up, than to have a bunch of little leaf stubs sticking out of brusied uncurable [wettrimmed] bud.

If I grew a million pounds of weed Id have at least half a million resealable vac bags. Only way to store or cure bud at any scale. Jars are for brewing..

 

[m99smith]

Wet trim = not curing. The bakery don't need to cut your crusts, the orchard ain't peeling your oranges, the concept of trimmed weed is a black market remnant from the 8k lb days. Its much easier to form a pile of cured leaves while busting the bud up, than to have a bunch of little leaf stubs sticking out of brusied uncurable [wettrimmed] bud.

If I grew a million pounds of weed Id have at least half a million resealable vac bags. Only way to store or cure bud at any scale. Jars are for brewing..

I like jars better then bags because the kief dosnt stick as much to the jar but both ways work fine. When I run out of jars I use bags.

 

[StonedGimp]

just pack it all in large buckets what i do just make sure to toss it every couple of days

Do you use a hygrometer or boveda packet in the buckets?

Wet trim = not curing. The bakery don't need to cut your crusts, the orchard ain't peeling your oranges, the concept of trimmed weed is a black market remnant from the 8k lb days. Its much easier to form a pile of cured leaves while busting the bud up, than to have a bunch of little leaf stubs sticking out of brusied uncurable [wettrimmed] bud.

If I grew a million pounds of weed Id have at least half a million resealable vac bags. Only way to store or cure bud at any scale. Jars are for brewing..

LinguaPeel you’re saying don’t trim the sugar leaves at all just hang until dry then bag it up to cure? That would definitely be easier and I’ll definitely look into vacuum bags.

 

[Teag]

You might consider using paper bags. Some people dry and cure all in a paper bag. This post by Thunderca] and the others below it have some good info. I've used a paper bag before and have been happy with the results. Just have to shake the bag and open it up once or twice a day. I'm pretty lazy about the everyday part though, unless I'm worried about mold.

Curing for only 1 week?

A lot of fresh weed still tastes killer. My friends are always bugging me for weed before it's even dry. They still love it and say it's better than the dispensary weed.

www.rollitup.org

 

[StonedGimp]

You might consider using paper bags. Some people dry and cure all in a paper bag. This post by Thunderca] and the others below it have some good info. I've used a paper bag before and have been happy with the results. Just have to shake the bag and open it up once or twice a day. I'm pretty lazy about the everyday part though, unless I'm worried about mold.

Curing for only 1 week?

A lot of fresh weed still tastes killer. My friends are always bugging me for weed before it's even dry. They still love it and say it's better than the dispensary weed.

www.rollitup.org

Thanks Teag! I’ll check this out and read over the information.

 

[Thundercat]

Simple paper bags do a lot of work for me. They equalize the bud moisture and help finish the dry/start a cure, and they help with my trimming. I remove all the big leaves before hand and while the buds are in the paper bags much of the sugar trim pops off and falls to the bottom. And no I don’t get many trichomes at the bottom, it seems to be plenty gentle on the important stuff! Then I just clean up the little bit left when I jar or bag it up for storage/cure.

 

[StonedGimp]

Simple paper bags do a lot of work for me. They equalize the bud moisture and help finish the dry/start a cure, and they help with my trimming. I remove all the big leaves before hand and while the buds are in the paper bags much of the sugar trim pops off and falls to the bottom. And no I don’t get many trichomes at the bottom, it seems to be plenty gentle on the important stuff! Then I just clean up the little bit left when I jar or bag it up for storage/cure.

I read through the post and it looks like a really simple and easy way to do things. I’m going to have someone pick me up a couple grocery bags and lunch size bags to try out. Do you think adding a 62% Boveda to the bag would benefit anything?

 

[Teag]

I read through the post and it looks like a really simple and easy way to do things. I’m going to have someone pick me up a couple grocery bags and lunch size bags to try out. Do you think adding a 62% Boveda to the bag would benefit anything?

I think Boveda packs are more for long term storage. I never used them but I did researched them. I think most would recommend drying and curing normally and then using the packs. If you put the packs in at the beginning some smell will be lost if that matters to you.

 

[Thundercat]

I read through the post and it looks like a really simple and easy way to do things. I’m going to have someone pick me up a couple grocery bags and lunch size bags to try out. Do you think adding a 62% Boveda to the bag would benefit anything?

Nope no need for the boveda.

 

[DarkWeb]

I love paper grocery bags! For drying they are awesome.....The RH of your environment will dictate your drying and curing method.

 

[DarkWeb]

So for curing I have always used jars. But this last summers harvest after I dried. I tried vac bags not vacuumed but just sealed. Make them to what you would use in say a week or three days if you like but not big bags.....then I used 5gal black buckets with black screw top lids and put those vac bags in.......and so far every bag I've opened had been great.

 

[StonedGimp]

Sorry for the late response guys I’ve been pretty busy the past couple days. I harvested on Friday and everything has been drying in my tent at 59%-62% humidity. I ended up cutting all the big fan leaves off before hanging but left all the smaller leaves. I still haven’t decided on what to use for curing, I ran across the Boveda Cvault containers and I’m debating on buying a couple of those since they look extremely easy to open and close. That would be way easier to open vs jars but I can’t really find information about someone using them to cure.

I think Boveda packs are more for long term storage. I never used them but I did researched them. I think most would recommend drying and curing normally and then using the packs. If you put the packs in at the beginning some smell will be lost if that matters to you.

Teag I use Boveda packets in all my containers and have bud that’s 4 years old and looks the same as when I put it in there but I haven’t really tested buds losing smell while using them vs not using them. That’s something to think about though and I’ve never really thought about it before until you mentioned it.

So for curing I have always used jars. But this last summers harvest after I dried. I tried vac bags not vacuumed but just sealed. Make them to what you would use in say a week or three days if you like but not big bags.....then I used 5gal black buckets with black screw top lids and put those vac bags in.......and so far every bag I've opened had been great.

DarkWeb I love your name and thanks for the information. I checked out some bags on amazon that don’t need a machine but use a pump. Do you think that would work fine? My mom has a machine and several bags but the last time I used it all my buds ended up crushed and was a huge mess. I definitely don’t plan on selling anything but I would like to show off what I’ve grown without buds being smashed. I guess I could put something in the bag to keep from crushing buds or just not suck all the air out completely.

 

[DarkWeb]

I don't know what bags you where looking at. Foodsaver is the brand I use. They don't crush if you just seal and don't vacuum.

 

[taint]

Press the vacuum button and when the bag is almost as airless as you want it...........press the seal button.
The pump will shut off on its own on most models after sealing.

 

[2com]

I’m getting ready to harvest my plants and I’m trying to decide how I should dry and cure everything. I think I’m going to wet trim then hang for a few days until they’re ready for jars or buckets but I can’t decide what I should do next. I’m paralyzed and my hands don’t really work the greatest, so burping several jars everyday is going to be a major hassle. I ran across Derek’s bucket air pump system and it looks like something I could handle and build easily but I can’t really find information from others who are using it. Thanks and any help would be appreciated

Haha, I've been acquiring the materials for this exact thing over the past few weeks. It might not see any use until "next run", unless I give one to someone else who can put it to use/test immediately (which is my plan).
I had thought about doing this after the first time I ever harvested and was trying to cure. I thought "this is inefficient and could easily be done by an air pump - even in mason jars with valves on the lid". But I never got around to playing with the idea. When I saw Derrick and others doing it I decided it was getting done.

 

[2com]

I think Boveda packs are more for long term storage. I never used them but I did researched them. I think most would recommend drying and curing normally and then using the packs. If you put the packs in at the beginning some smell will be lost if that matters to you.

I agree. I think they affect the aromas somewhat. Use after a proper dry/cure, if you can. There's also the "integra boost" brand to look into.

When you guys mention vacuum bags, do you mean ones for vacuum sealing machines, or the large/huge ones used with a vacuum cleaner to draw the air out?

 

[tslonige]

I’m getting ready to harvest my plants and I’m trying to decide how I should dry and cure everything. I think I’m going to wet trim then hang for a few days until they’re ready for jars or buckets but I can’t decide what I should do next. I’m paralyzed and my hands don’t really work the greatest, so burping several jars everyday is going to be a major hassle. I ran across Derek’s bucket air pump system and it looks like something I could handle and build easily but I can’t really find information from others who are using it. Thanks and any help would be appreciated

I bought a bowl trimmer and trim dry with it after the whole plant hangs for 7 to 10 days.

 

[DarkWeb]

I agree. I think they affect the aromas somewhat. Use after a proper dry/cure, if you can. There's also the "integra boost" brand to look into.

When you guys mention vacuum bags, do you mean ones for vacuum sealing machines, or the large/huge ones used with a vacuum cleaner to draw the air out?

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Mine has a the option to vac and seal or just seal. It will not crush if you just seal.