Best way to Veg prior to flowering in RDWC

[trapdevil]

Currently am vegging just in rockwoool cubes and hydroton in essentially litter boxes. 5 plants to one.
Vegging for like 6 weeks.

then moving to RDWC.

I feel like I could
be doing a better veg system.

i’ve seen others after a 5 week veg seem a lot bigger, obviously many favors but Infeel the roots almost get root bound sometimes?

some when they move to the buckets explode with growth while others barely explode at all yet looked very similar root wise and size leaving veg.

Should i just make a rdwc set up in veg, just it would have to be bigger than flower becuase using REG seeds so have to filter through males in flower.

i can bring them to the flower room in the trays and sex them.


Still getting like 3 foot plants topped once or twice before the flip but wanna either hear some other ideas or what’s up!

 

[Airwalker16]

Exactly. Just build a smaller setup using 2-3gallon Buckets and a 5-10gal res.

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[trapdevil]

On second thought and taking with some others.

Could I build essentially an aero cloner.

Veg them there for 4 weeks then transfer to flower?

Not too many plants per cloner do roots don’t tangle.

but would be easier than building a 30 bucket rdwc for veg.

Would that make sense? Possible?

 

[fragileassassin]

On second thought and taking with some others.
Could I build essentially an aero cloner.
Veg them there for 4 weeks then transfer to flower?
Not too many plants per cloner do roots don’t tangle.
but would be easier than building a 30 bucket rdwc for veg.
Would that make sense? Possible?

This is pretty much what I was going to suggest and how I do it. Was I one of them?
For 30 plants, I would probably use one of the big 55 gallon HDX home depot totes. I use one as an outside res and could see that being a good size to veg 30 small plants for a few weeks. They are a bit tall though, but thats not necessarily a bad thing. Itll give you more water volume so itll stay stable longer ect. You may just have to build a spray bar with some legs.

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These clones were 20 days off their mothers when I took this and transplanted them. Cloner is built in a 17gal HDX tote.
Once they start growing together, you can pull the roots apart every few days and theyre fine. There were like 15-17 in here idr for sure.

 

[Keesje]

These clones were 20 days off their mothers when I took this and transplanted them. Cloner is built in a 17gal HDX tote.
Once they start growing together, you can pull the roots apart every few days and theyre fine. There were like 15-17 in here idr for sure.

Do you also have a pic of those same clones at the same time (20 days after cutting) but then not the roots, but the actual clones?

 

[fragileassassin]

Do you also have a pic of those same clones at the same time (20 days after cutting) but then not the roots, but the actual clones?

Here's a few more from transplant day.

 

[etownpaul]

What do you guys use for the little plastic collars that hold the neoprene cloning disks? I'm getting everything together to build one of these but that's the only thing im stumped on. I was gonna chop the bottoms off 2" net pots if need be.

 

[fragileassassin]

What do you guys use for the little plastic collars that hold the neoprene cloning disks? I'm getting everything together to build one of these but that's the only thing im stumped on. I was gonna chop the bottoms off 2" net pots if need be.

That.

Amazon.com: 2 inch Net Pots Cups Heavy Duty Round Wide Rim Design - Orchids Aquaponics Hydroponics Slotted Mesh (Cz Garden All Star – 50 Black): Garden & Outdoor

Amazon.com: 2 inch Net Pots Cups Heavy Duty Round Wide Rim Design - Orchids Aquaponics Hydroponics Slotted Mesh (Cz Garden All Star – 50 Black): Garden & Outdoor

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and

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079LW394G/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1

 

[etownpaul]

I was confused since most net pots have netting all the way up to the brim, unlike the ones you linked. I like those better since the roots have to gro down.

Perfect, thanks.

 

[fragileassassin]

I was confused since most net pots have netting all the way up to the brim, unlike the ones you linked.

Perfect, thanks.

yeah it took me a little bit to find the right ones to cut for collars, dug back in my amazon history for the exact ones.

 

[Airwalker16]

There's fairly cheaper netpot than those CZ branded ones just FYI. Although the CZ company seems like pretty high quality.

 

[Keesje]

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Is this plant you're holding in your hand a 20 day clone as well?

 

[fragileassassin]

Is this plant you're holding in your hand a 20 day clone as well?

Yeh all those pictures are from the same time.

 

[Keesje]

Yeh all those pictures are from the same time.

Good job!

After you transplanted them, how many more days did you veg them?

 

[fragileassassin]

Good job!

After you transplanted them, how many more days did you veg them?

It was right about 8 weeks total from cut to flip. Everything so far is in my thread if you want to see the whole process.

Fragile back at it. DIY RDWC with the things.

Rinsing the system out with fresh water tonight so figured I would share the process some this time. Goal is to transplant tonight. Build of the veg system is in the link in my signature. This is my 5x5 veg tent, will share progress of the flower setup as I start prepping it here in the next...

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[trapdevil]

So i’m
thinking for my
workflow.

I’m working with seeds.

Pop seeds in root riot plugs.

Go to Clone king/ king cloner whateber it’s called for like a week.

Move to DIY 27 Gallon tote with 12 sites. Probably have to build two.

veg there for 3 weeks.

Move to Rdwc system.

Bueno?

2 inch net pots from cloner to harvest

 

[fragileassassin]

I also do seed to cloner now. I use a coco and perlite mix to make it super easy to pull them up without damaging the roots.
I would probably leave in the cloner a little bit longer, maybe 2 weeks, but thats pretty much how I do it.
Ive been tracking my current seed to cloner project in that thread I linked above.

 

[trapdevil]

Explain how you start the seeds in coco and perlite? I’ve only started in rockwool and plugs.

 

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Currently am vegging just in rockwoool cubes and hydroton in essentially litter boxes. 5 plants to one.
Vegging for like 6 weeks.

then moving to RDWC.

I feel like I could
be doing a better veg system.

i’ve seen others after a 5 week veg seem a lot bigger, obviously many favors but Infeel the roots almost get root bound sometimes?

some when they move to the buckets explode with growth while others barely explode at all yet looked very similar root wise and size leaving veg.

Should i just make a rdwc set up in veg, just it would have to be bigger than flower becuase using REG seeds so have to filter through males in flower.

i can bring them to the flower room in the trays and sex them.


Still getting like 3 foot plants topped once or twice before the flip but wanna either hear some other ideas or what’s up!

Try taking Cutts from the plants you choose to flower /rooot cuttings then use in next grow that way you get all females for next run do more than needed then choose best for flower. Hope this helps try getting some oxypot xl vegging systems 6/9 pot to use before transfer to main system.

 

[fragileassassin]

Explain how you start the seeds in coco and perlite? I’ve only started in rockwool and plugs.

its more or less the same. I mixed the coco and perlite up in a pot adding more perlite until I was happy with how loose the blend would be. I got some little expanding pucks on amazon and used a similar mixture that I do in my cloner at their recommended amount to "activate" them. Just a little calmag, KLN, silica, and a tiny bit of nutrient. Like 1/8th recommended seedling strength. You grab a handful and squeeze it out like you would with a rooter then drop it in some trays and just plant your seed about a 1/4" down. Ive never used rockwool, but from my understanding this is just like how youre supposed start rockwool cubes. This mixture drains really well, I leave them under a vented humidity dome in those double layer trays you just add some water to the bottom and in 4-6 days theyre big enough to move into the cloner.
The first time I did it, I pulled them out of some rapid rooters by tearing small pieces of the rooter off at a time to not damage the roots. It worked, but it was much easier to pull them up out of the loose coco+perlite mixture.