Justin-case
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I think he thinks he's trolling us
The Impeachment Of Donald Trump
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Fogdog
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Speaking of being far from reality,
Trumpers don't need facts, just belief.
DIY-HP-LED
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Latest Bolton revelations are no game-changer
thehill.com
President Donald Trump entered the fall’s impeachment hearings as an unstoppable force. Despite siding with Russian President Vladimir Putin in opposition to U.S. intelligence, or facing sexual assault allegations from nearly 20 women, or getting caught lying or misleading the public more than 15,000 times since taking office, Trump has effectively inoculated himself from political destruction. Statements and actions — any one of which might have ended anyone else's career — seem only to have hardened his support.
Gallup’s final poll of 2019 encapsulates this narrative: 45 percent of respondents approved of his presidency, only one point below his all-time high. Meanwhile, only 51 percent disapproved the second-lowest mark since February 2017.
Ironically, this is all playing out amidst Republicans House members retiring in droves. Meanwhile, in the past three years, 13 state legislators have left the GOP; for context, only 17 state legislators left the GOP in the 21 years prior.
So despite becoming only the third impeached president, despite rarely reaching 50 percent approval in any poll, despite House Republicans losing a net of 50 seats since Trump’s election (247 in November 2016 to 197 today), and despite a record pace of defections—in addition to everything else that’s been thrown at him, or that he’s thrown at himself—Trump somehow entered last week’s Senate impeachment trial as emboldened as ever.
Collaborating with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and promising swift and brutal payback toward any GOP senator who crosses him, the president found himself in familiar territory: conceivably beleaguered, but in fact, empowered.
And now we have the 500th “Surely Trump can’t withstand this” revelation. On Sunday "The New York Times" reported on John Bolton’s unpublished manuscript, in which the former National Security Advisor claims, among other things, that the president knowingly withheld Ukraine funding until the country initiated an investigation into the Bidens.
Never mind that two months ago European Union Ambassador Gordon Sondland made the same assertion under oath. In today’s world, one party’s truth is another’s fiction. The only hope is to find more corroborators to bolster the case.
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Latest Bolton revelations are no game-changer
This is yet one more Republican whom the president and his friends easily can redefine as a disgruntled former employee.
thehill.com
President Donald Trump entered the fall’s impeachment hearings as an unstoppable force. Despite siding with Russian President Vladimir Putin in opposition to U.S. intelligence, or facing sexual assault allegations from nearly 20 women, or getting caught lying or misleading the public more than 15,000 times since taking office, Trump has effectively inoculated himself from political destruction. Statements and actions — any one of which might have ended anyone else's career — seem only to have hardened his support.
Gallup’s final poll of 2019 encapsulates this narrative: 45 percent of respondents approved of his presidency, only one point below his all-time high. Meanwhile, only 51 percent disapproved the second-lowest mark since February 2017.
Ironically, this is all playing out amidst Republicans House members retiring in droves. Meanwhile, in the past three years, 13 state legislators have left the GOP; for context, only 17 state legislators left the GOP in the 21 years prior.
So despite becoming only the third impeached president, despite rarely reaching 50 percent approval in any poll, despite House Republicans losing a net of 50 seats since Trump’s election (247 in November 2016 to 197 today), and despite a record pace of defections—in addition to everything else that’s been thrown at him, or that he’s thrown at himself—Trump somehow entered last week’s Senate impeachment trial as emboldened as ever.
Collaborating with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and promising swift and brutal payback toward any GOP senator who crosses him, the president found himself in familiar territory: conceivably beleaguered, but in fact, empowered.
And now we have the 500th “Surely Trump can’t withstand this” revelation. On Sunday "The New York Times" reported on John Bolton’s unpublished manuscript, in which the former National Security Advisor claims, among other things, that the president knowingly withheld Ukraine funding until the country initiated an investigation into the Bidens.
Never mind that two months ago European Union Ambassador Gordon Sondland made the same assertion under oath. In today’s world, one party’s truth is another’s fiction. The only hope is to find more corroborators to bolster the case.
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DIY-HP-LED
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hanimmal
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You love that kool aid.
I want to know how Trump's 3 day tax payer funded political ad against Joe Biden is going to hold up when people whine about the costs? The one that he got for free (well kind of, I don't include his taking out of Epstein to get Dershowitz and Starr) while using up every last shred of dignity that the Republicans have? It must suck to continue to support this turd of a President.
hanimmal
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BTW do you think they realize that the Trump defense has already been tried:
He doesn't have the same back story, getting $3 million a year from daddy at age 3, nor did good Will Hunting have a Republican party ready to light themselves on fire to keep him in power, but it is the same kind of bullshit that is getting argued by Trump's defense.
He doesn't have the same back story, getting $3 million a year from daddy at age 3, nor did good Will Hunting have a Republican party ready to light themselves on fire to keep him in power, but it is the same kind of bullshit that is getting argued by Trump's defense.
Unclebaldrick
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Like Berniebabies.
Fogdog
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This may be true but I have yet to see a Berniebaby say their plan B, which is if they are wrong about "the global warming scam" they believe their soul will go to another planet and inhabit life there.
A Trumper in Congress said that if he is wrong, God will step in and save us.
@Bugeye and other Trumpers represent a quantum leap in looney tunes compared to Berniebabies.
DIY-HP-LED
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Rep. Adam Schiff: Why Is Bolton Willing To Come Forward Now? | Morning Joe | MSNBC
Intel Committee Chair, Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., discusses the defense from Trump's attorneys on the sixth day of the impeachment hearings, the need for John Bolton as a witness and why he says now is time for political courage. Aired on 01/28/20.
Intel Committee Chair, Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., discusses the defense from Trump's attorneys on the sixth day of the impeachment hearings, the need for John Bolton as a witness and why he says now is time for political courage. Aired on 01/28/20.
Bugeye
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Ha ha, perhaps I will be wrong this time and Trump will be removed from office. Remember when I said he would not go down for Russia conspiracy Mueller probe nonsense? How about when I said that FISA Abuse would likely be shown? Ha ha ha.
hanimmal
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So you're 0-1 so far, I doubt too he will be removed.
Edited: Thought 1-1, but realized Mueller isn't done yet:
The FISA abude nonsense you spewed forever, only showed that there was abuse AFTER Trump's team took over. So it is just as likely that he had it done as anything else.
Unclebaldrick
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hanimmal
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Idk, it is not like he genuinely believes it. Sometimes people just need to pay the bills.
UncleBuck
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ibelieve you said that was a ”nothingburger” as trumps personal lawyer, campaign manager, nsc director, and many others were sentenced to prison for conspiracy against the United States among other crimes
Meanwhile, you kept howling about Benghazi! Fast and furious! IRS targeting conservatives! All of which resulted in ... nothing
The point being you’re a two faced rat, a racist, a neo nazi, a pedolover, and lower than shit
One of Trump's "Confederacy of Dunces" once called Trump more corrupt than Hillary:
"Law professor Alan Dershowitz, who is a member of President Donald Trump's impeachment defense team, said in 2016 that he believed Trump was more corrupt than Hillary Clinton and more likely to continue being corrupt as president."
There's more fun in the article:
www.cnn.com
"Law professor Alan Dershowitz, who is a member of President Donald Trump's impeachment defense team, said in 2016 that he believed Trump was more corrupt than Hillary Clinton and more likely to continue being corrupt as president."
There's more fun in the article:
Alan Dershowitz called Trump corrupt in 2016 and said he could be corrupt as President
Law professor Alan Dershowitz, who is a member of President Donald Trump's impeachment defense team, said in 2016 that he believed Trump was more corrupt than Hillary Clinton and more likely to continue being corrupt as president.
www.cnn.com
Unclebaldrick
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Moscow Mitch says that he doesn't have the votes to stop witnesses from being called.
Game on.
Game on.
captainmorgan
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From some things I've read it sounds like tRump and Barr locked down things so tight that not much will come to light through regular channels. But it's not stopping the people who know the truth and everything is going to come out in public dumps of info, including all the russian stuff and a ton on money laundering. Guess they've given up on ousting him through impeachment and hoping the election will fix things.
It's going to be really entertaining when someone eventually inevitably leaks his tax returns. Man, he really doesn't want those out there for some reason.
Justin-case
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They had witnesses in the kavanaugh hearing too. Didn't change any votes. These people have no morals.
DIY-HP-LED
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It's not morals we're dealing with here, it's survival, when they went into the meeting there was a poll released that said 75% of voters now want to see witnesses. We aren't depending on morals and ethics from the GOP, this is self preservation and I don't think Mitch will mind if Donald is removed, but by a secret ballot. That's why Mitch and Lindsay got ahead of their oaths for the benefit of the base, they couldn't do it after they took the oath, they can claim they voted not to remove Trump if there is a secret vote, so can all the other senators running in 2020. Witnesses, documents and dramatic testimony along with a long trial will be very bad for Donald, a secret vote by the senate will throw him into a panic and should. They might just do Donald too, if he is acquitted and leads them into 2020 it will be a disaster for the GOP in the senate and house, Mitch will lose his senate majority and maybe even his seat. If they do Donald it will be quick with Pence sworn in on the spot and the first Donald might know about it would be when Pence orders the Secret Service to evict him from the WH, not even time to sign a pardon...