ACE Ethiopian

[The Mantis]

These Ethiopians have stated clear that they need a looooot of time. They've been at 12/12 for near 8 weeks and no one has shown even symptoms of being at their mid point. Some even look like they are starting now to throw any flowers.


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Let's see how much time I can stand. My tent looks like a real tropical forest now.

Wow that's a lot of time with no bud formation. Did you find any males?

Have you thought about bending down those branches to keep them from hitting the ceiling?

Also, I read that it might help with those equatorial sativas to lower the light on period to 11 hours. 11 on / 13 off to help with flowering. Might want to try that to see if it speeds things up.

 

[raggyb]

I was going to say maybe try 11/13 too. I hope you let them keep going to see their full potential. Imho they will take 16 weeks at least. I'm no expert but guessing to wait 4 more weeks to move 11/13 because right now you're only half way there. even my effed up ones have a real nice high for me, just tried some 2 weeks ago. would hate to see you give up now.

 

[Ailalelo]

I was going to say maybe try 11/13 too. I hope you let them keep going to see their full potential. Imho they will take 16 weeks at least. I'm no expert but guessing to wait 4 more weeks to move 11/13 because right now you're only half way there. even my effed up ones have a real nice high for me, just tried some 2 weeks ago. would hate to see you give up now.

Hahaha noooooo! I'm not giving up. But I don't know if I can wait for 16 weeks, there are some more strains I want to test, and I'm finding faster sativas. Probably there will be faster specimens, but I fell I'm not even half way with these. I might use 13/11, but I'm more used to the opposite, I get better productions, so for sativas now I use 12/12. It might change in a while.

To whose asking for males, there are pictures some posts earlier. I've used them to pollinate a couple of strains.

 

[Ailalelo]

What I believe I'll do is to purge a couple or three of the slower specimens, these that after 8 weeks show just some scarce hair. These are not what I seek and I can gain some space in the tent and raise the production of the faster ones. Of course, I'll let the faster ones to mature, but I can't compromise to reach the full maturation of all specimens. There are soooo many strains to grow.....

 

[Hot Diggity Sog]

This is going to be an exercise in extreme patience. I hope you are able to make it to the finish line. Please keep us posted.

 

[Ailalelo]

This is going to be an exercise in extreme patience. I hope you are able to make it to the finish line. Please keep us posted.

Now I feel that I have more patience than usual, and this happens because I've harvested weed enough in the last months to feel safe about my personal supply. I've got weed (curing now) that will last for months, so I can afford some months without production to harvest these jewels in good condition, with no urgency.

I have to say that some of the Ethiopians have shown some resin, they look good in spite of that slow development.

At the same time, I'm flowering some Red Snakes. These have been 12/12 for 5 weeks but they will provide some easier happiness for the next couple of months. They are already shining with resin.

 

[THT]

Ace Panama

 

[Thundercat]

Long flowering sativas are hard to wait for, but the reward is sooo sweet in the end. I've ran sativas that took 14-16 weeks from the point of first flowers, not 12/12 time. They were awesome smoke, that friends have asked me for again and again over the years.

 

[Ailalelo]

Ace Panama

Nice picture. I've grown Panama in the past and I've found some pink hair as well. Did you supplement with UV light? I believe it is very difficult to get pink hair indoors and UV could be the reason.

 

[Ailalelo]

Long flowering sativas are hard to wait for, but the reward is sooo sweet in the end. I've ran sativas that took 14-16 weeks from the point of first flowers, not 12/12 time. They were awesome smoke, that friends have asked me for again and again over the years.

That's a lot of time... 20 weeks in total? I believe there are nice weeds that are faster than that. I hope so!

 

[Thundercat]

That's a lot of time... 20 weeks in total? I believe there are nice weeds that are faster than that. I hope so!

There are definitely great strains that are done faster lol. That's why most people don't run long flowering sativas. I havn't ran any since that specific grow. Most hybrids still need 11-12 weeks realistically though. I havn't seen many strains that are actually properly finished in under 9-10 weeks.

C99 is one of my favorite strains. Its a sativa that finishes nicely in about 10 weeks depending on the phenotype you end up with. Its got a great sativa high, and nice fruit and funk flavors.

 

[DonPetro]

Hahaha noooooo! I'm not giving up. But I don't know if I can wait for 16 weeks, there are some more strains I want to test, and I'm finding faster sativas. Probably there will be faster specimens, but I fell I'm not even half way with these. I might use 13/11, but I'm more used to the opposite, I get better productions, so for sativas now I use 12/12. It might change in a while.

To whose asking for males, there are pictures some posts earlier. I've used them to pollinate a couple of strains.

Do not do 13/11!!! 11/13 even 10/14 would be better.

 

[THT]

Did you supplement with UV light?

No, but running under two LED fixtures, one chinese COB fixture and one Viparspectra.

 

[yesum]

I ran some ACE Panama and got some pink hair phenos and then the green one with white pistils, all genetic. I prefer the Snowhigh Panama Red by a bit. Both are good.

On the light, I run flowering at 9/15 thru the flower. Cuts down time to 10 or 20% less. I see no downside to it but maybe a bit less yield. I also cut the plants when I see some milky resin, do not wait on amber to appear. More time saved and the sativa effect is enhanced. C99 I took down at 42 days. Smokes perfect.

 

[Ailalelo]

I ran some ACE Panama and got some pink hair phenos and then the green one with white pistils, all genetic. I prefer the Snowhigh Panama Red by a bit. Both are good.

On the light, I run flowering at 9/15 thru the flower. Cuts down time to 10 or 20% less. I see no downside to it but maybe a bit less yield. I also cut the plants when I see some milky resin, do not wait on amber to appear. More time saved and the sativa effect is enhanced. C99 I took down at 42 days. Smokes perfect.

I've flowered under different regimes and I believe that you've come a little extreme. In the equator, the extremest natural photoperiod, the plants get something similar to 12,5h of light and 11,5h of darkness because of the effect of the atmosphere. Aren't you afraid of losing some flavors and effects you'd get if you would let them ripen up a little more?

I used to flower 13/11 because plants flowered very well and I had bigger crops that way. I think that your method can reduce the crop quite a lot, but I guess that after the years we choose the way we grow.

Sweet smokes

 

[Ailalelo]

Today I've discarded the three slowest Ethiopians of the bunch. They are two days short of 9 weeks 12/12 and they looked like that:




The ones I kept look more like this:



Still a couple of months left.

 

[yesum]

No, not afraid of losing anything really. I am running lots of different strains and have to keep things moving. If I was set on a certain strain or plant, I would not feel the need to push things thru like this. I use to go 10 hours on and said what the hell. Equator time be damned. I am already growing under fluorescent light instead of equator sun so not gonna sweat the lost hours of light if I can get my harvest sooner.

 

[Ailalelo]

That's how they look now. 10 weeks and a half 12/12. They show resin and they foxtail like crazy, but I can see how they grow. They will eventually mature.

They look real, even if there is no way we can prove they haven't any indica on them they, the aspects of the calyxes and the resin covering look very authentic.




This is a Bangi Haze Ethiopian just to compare. 4 weeks 12/12 and already full of flowers, these are way faster and also very tall. The one in the left is a Red Snake at 7 and half weeks.



Sweet smokes

 

[Ailalelo]

The Bangi Haze x Ethiopian at 6 weeks are quite homogeneous. The flowers and resin glands are very little, expressing its sativa heritage. This is an easier one.
I've got cuts from the most interesting among them, including males, so I can select and make F2 and several crosses.



Sweet smokes

 

[Ailalelo]

Some new pictures of the Ethiopians at 13 weeks. No doubt they show a peculiar shape. And a pretty good amount of resin for such a plant.




They could be in a better condition, but they share the tent with very diverse strains and this has conditioned their diet a bit.

Anyway, I'm happy with them so far.

And these are a couple of Bangi Haze x Ethiopian with just 6 and a half weeks. Really much faster than Ethiopians, some of these plants produce quite compact buds. I'm very interested on what they can deliver.

I believe the fastest ones can be harvested in 10-11 weeks.




Sweet smokes