CDC Confirms Black Markets, not "Vaping," Caused Outbreak

[westcoast420]

Ah hear we go with the propaganda machine..What happened to all the patients that admitted they never smoked cannabis in their vapes and only nicotine? Must have magically had cannabis in those nicotine cartrages lol. what a joke.

CDC Confirms Black Markets, not "Vaping," Caused Outbreak - Competitive Enterprise Institute

A new CDC report puts the final nail in the coffin of the idea that the spat of lung injuries that occurred beginning last summer were caused by “vaping.” The CDC admitted this week that the injuries appear to be exclusively linked to marijuana vapes—not nicotine e-cigarettes, most of which were...

cei.org

 

[gb123]

Ya gotta love it when they think their shit is better than what any patient grows..or any personal for that matter.

 

[xtraLRG420]

More of you people need to question your dealers man. I don't know how many times my stupid friends have tried to get me to buy from their new connect because it's cheaper. I don't need to save 5 dollars, I don't need something that doesn't smell, and I don't need someone to concentrate my THC for an additional cost. I'm a fucking adult for Christ's sake. You're not gonna sell me on weed. Growing one plant I can get pounds of high grade bud and turn it into a thousand different products and have fun doing it with zero risk of lung infection. Who would throw that away for convenience other than overworked slaves constantly spouting at the mouth about how to save money that isn't even real. You're all trying to conserve digits in a computer all the while being molded into walking advertisements for ideas that won't matter to anyone after you're gone.

 

[Warpedpassage]

Except.......

Opinion | How Legal Weed Shops Feed the Vaping Crisis

State-sanctioned marijuana shops are contributing to the rise in lung illnesses and deaths at a higher rate than previously believed.

www.wsj.com

Fucking wsj, they put the story behind a paywall. Before it was behind a paywall, they talk about a significant number of carts that were purchased from legal market.
In the u.s., ofcourse. From memory it was nearly 150 cases out of 700 that were from legal markets. They also mentioned the number is likely higher.
Anyone with access to this article please cut n paste.

 

[Hust17]

More of you people need to question your dealers man. I don't know how many times my stupid friends have tried to get me to buy from their new connect because it's cheaper. I don't need to save 5 dollars, I don't need something that doesn't smell, and I don't need someone to concentrate my THC for an additional cost. I'm a fucking adult for Christ's sake. You're not gonna sell me on weed. Growing one plant I can get pounds of high grade bud and turn it into a thousand different products and have fun doing it with zero risk of lung infection. Who would throw that away for convenience other than overworked slaves constantly spouting at the mouth about how to save money that isn't even real. You're all trying to conserve digits in a computer all the while being molded into walking advertisements for ideas that won't matter to anyone after you're gone.

Exactly what all these companies should be doing. They all invested millions in fucking concentrate machines and shit, just grow some fucking dope buds before you think you’re gonna take over the fucking world. LOL

 

[OLD MOTHER SATIVA]

just say NO to vaping concentrates with carriers and non cannabis terpenes

 

[Egzoset]

Salutations WarpedPassage,

There's quite some major problem with the source although the title may sound realistic or at least less biased for a change:

It's signed Kevin Sabet!!



I'm certainly not registering to see the rest of his rant, Kevin Sabet is my enemy and yours too i'm sure.

Thanks for highlighting him on the radar anyway.

Good day, have fun!!

 

[HobbyGrowArtist]

More of you people need to question your dealers man. I don't know how many times my stupid friends have tried to get me to buy from their new connect because it's cheaper.

i know a guy that sells black market weed he orders online. said he made his own hash oil/shatter vape juice. said the word vape juice a few times. i asked "ok how did you get the concentrate to dissolve into the juice? did you use VG or PG or a combination of the 2" buddy went silent and changed the subject. i was genuinely curious as i use to drop shards of shatter in my e-cig tank and see if it would dissolve, never did.
he was selling the whole E-PEN unit with weed oil in the tanks. think it was like 70$ for a shit vape pen.
buddy of mine had one, i didnt smoke weed at the time. it didnt do anything for me at all and i hauled on that little pen for a minute straight. it wont vape at all. not in the juice pens anyway.

 

[HobbyGrowArtist]

point is dont trust anyone claiming they made their own weed oil vape juice. i also cranked my battery right up and put shards of shatter into the coil. barely notice anything and it melted into the cotton and fucked my coil. so dont waste your money on some shit E-pen cig that has oil mixed into it.

 

[Warpedpassage]

Salutations WarpedPassage,

There's quite some major problem with the source although the title may sound realistic or at least less biased for a change:

It's signed Kevin Sabet!!



I'm certainly not registering to see the rest of his rant, Kevin Sabet is my enemy and yours too i'm sure.

Thanks for highlighting him on the radar anyway.

Good day, have fun!!

No doubt, anything out of wsj has to be taken with a boatload of salt.


I personally dont trust the current tech. There is another article online out of the E.U. Some regulatory agency tested the vapor from these carts and found all kinds heavy metals. They concluded it was the carts themselves. Ill go and see if i can find it again.

 

[OldMedUser]

Gov't supported vape propaganda is coming up fast and hard! Forget the fact that good old tobacco kills ten thousand times as many as vape users so far then disconnect your brain.

Last night I watched an episode of Chicago Med. Young girl had severe lung issues. Vapes turned out to be the cause. So obviously gov't propaganda slanted to urge people to think negatively about vaping anything. My severely critical email is on it's way and so should yours be.

For sure there have been bad vape products but that is being dealt with so lets bitch when we see slanted news reports!

 

[Egzoset]

Hi again WarpedPassage,

I personally dont trust the current tech.

Lets have some retrospective trying to explain why.

In the "good old days" Harper was satisfied just to deny true science despite the political cost. Trudeau's more hypocrite strategy was designed to progressively undermine whatever remained of its objectivity, for example by parading with former astronaut Marc Garneau in the background while intrumentalizing Joy Davies (twice!) during his 2015 campaign... To top it all, once elected it wasn't bad enough to keep Hilary Geller installed so she could still be sent as Canada's emissary in preparation of UNGASS 2016: actually IMO the main non-ambivalent signal announcing the fate of canuck cannabis "science" was Bill G20 Blair being nominated as leader of the "Task Force", which then launched a bogus consultation leading to its biased report of August 24th, 2016.

Now guess where Montréal's Halloween summit gathering 80~some "spe¢iali$ts"/"experts" really came from that same year:

[ https:// www.csam-smca.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/CSAM2016-Program.pdf ]​

Canadian Society of Addiction Medicine​

E.G. from Calgary/Alberta.

And who do you think were among such event's "international guests"?...

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Kevin Sabet, bigot anti-cannabic prohibitionist​

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Kevin Sabet selling his crap book to 80-some "scientists"...​

We're not done yet, besides other high-visibility drug warriors as Nora Volkow we also saw Didier Jutras-Aswad on late TV news:

[ http:// ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/811093/legalisation-marijuana-canada-mise-en-garde-experts-americains ]​

SRC - Légalisation de la marijuana: des experts américains mettent en garde le Canada (2016-Oct-26)​

Take note this was supposed to be about "lessons" learned from Colorado, etc.

Yet the crunchy part resides in details the journalist omited to account for, like the most probable participation of this other propagandist:

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[ https:// ici.radio-canada.ca/tele/on-va-se-le-dire/site/episodes/450621/sebastien-diaz?isautoplay=true ]​

Radio-Canada: "On va se le dire" - Épisode du 6 Janvier (@ 28:51)​

« Moi j'ai perdu un fils qui est décédé d'la drogue, j'peux-tu vous dire que j'chus sensibilisé à ça! »​

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[ https:// www.csam-smca.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/CJA_Journal_April_2009.pdf ]​

(Jean-Pierre Chiasson as "committee member" in harper days...)​

This doctor & therapist who's no psychologist nor a psychiatrist once explained publicly that his son David commited suicide because of a broken love affair:

[ http:// ici.radio-canada.ca/emissions/medium_large/2014-2015/chronique.asp?idChronique=382013 ]​

SRC: Comment aider son enfant toxicomane devenu adulte (2015-Sep-2)​

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« Le fils de Jean-Pierre Chiasson semblait avoir réglé ses problèmes de toxicomanie, mais une déception amoureuse l'a poussé au suicide. »​

Nonetheless, just a few weeks ago on national French-speaking TV this famous "scientific" authority (who's agenda includes employers and justice mandates...) got invited to discuss edibles and yet the audience was tricked to conclude that cannabis kills after hearing dad Chiasson's revised opportunist version.

It turns out after digging further i learned that the young man once experienced "re-hab" 1st-hand while his father's whole carreer is focussed on the addictions of others, perhaps seeking revenge:

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Which is blatant instrumentalization of his own son beyond the grave and that's only the iceberg's tip: David had 2 mothers, which under these circumstances appears to be another detail of potential importance! Etc., etc.

M'well, i'm no journalist myself but i begin to get the picture about Kevin Sabet & friends!

With traumatizing adults like that no kid really needs to fall in love to get seriously endangered. What a suffering shame it must have been, unable to trust science with his own dad practicing family medecine!...

In The Name Of Children​

Good day, have fun!!

 

[The Hippy]

You obviously are the seller of these things...nice spam job...reported as well.
Next time try to be more subtle spammer.

 

[mauricem00]

there appears to be 2 different types of vape cartridges in use. one uses cannabis infused E-luice which may be harmful but the ones sold at the dispensary use hash oil which vapes at a higher temperature and should be as safe as smoking hash

 

[Egzoset]

Too bad no direct evidence can be linked to BIGOT ANTI-CANNABIC PROHIBITIONISM.

Spotlights still directed at "stoner$"/"droÿés$" & friend$...

 

[Egzoset]

If you want to smoke weed, just make a joint, don't come up with other ways!

M'well, nobody will dictate me what consumption method to use and i must point out the end of the road shouldn't have to stop with the invention of fire. Inhalation - NOT SMOKING - is going to stick around for a good reason, but i question a void when it comes to some unexpected aspect actually raised by Enrico Bouchard and his Sublimator: post re-vaporization shrinking microscopic air-suspended droplets that can pass the pulmonary alveola barrier easier, as a result of mechanical size exactly. Nothing chemical here.

The thing with e-Cigs which concerns me most is how much of the cannabic "fumet" stays trapped. Please advise us when the ready-made commercial products start to address such basic concepts as that, not to mention if examined carefully under an Energy Budget microscope...

 

[lusidghost]

wtf am I reading?

 

[Egzoset]

wtf am I reading?

What we got here is an imbecile getting rewarded with "love" points from some other Snif 'n Liche. No wonder the media is said to die...

 

[rootforme]

Why smoke a cart with added crap when you can make rosin and just drop that in a cloud or g pen? I take fresh frozen trim and make bubble hash and then press that through the rosin press. I would never want a cart over that.

 

[gwheels]

Where I live in Canada you can just smoke a doob wherever you want. Vape carts are ....not good weed in a doob.

Smoke doobs..save the planet make them hemp

And zig zag organic hemp...oooo la la...what a paper.