To flush or not

[dwig]

I got a couple of questions ask. I’ve sorta ran into a situation. If someone could help me out that would be great.

I’m on my first organic grow and I started with step-well super soil. My temps were a little cold at the start especially for seedlings (70-75 light on and 60 - 65 lights off). Growth was actually okay but has now nearly halted. I’m 99% sure this is a ph issue as i’ve been watering with non ph’d water (ph 8.5) as I was told by a few sources that super soil itself will balance the ph of water (I guess not...) I also got purple stems as pictured and this isnt a genetics trait with this strain and that usually indicated ph issues. I also for some nute deficiencies include magensium and I think calcium as well.

Before you saying anything yes they are getting transplanted but I’ve been trying to fix the ph before I do so but have had no success for over a week with just watering with properly ph’d water. Would a ph’d water flush be the best idea even though its organic soil or would I be better off to transplant into a big pot and just water normally with properly ph’d water with no flush?

My new temps are pretty dialled in as seen. The tube heater for the grow tent came in. I might set the lights on temp to 80 but ill see how 77-78 goes. Humidity is low in the winter, nothing I can do for now.

The two in the middle are clones I got two days ago which have been getting proper ph’d water since arriving.

 

[dwig]

Is this mag def and if so is there anything I should add right now or will fixing the ph be fine?

 

[SPLFreak808]

They could use a transplant, if ph keeps fucking you then try a microbe product.

DIRECTIONS

• Condition soil prior to use
• For indoor, use minimum 7-10 gallon pots
• For outdoor, use minimum 30 gallon pot smaller pots can be used if planted later in the season (time of season started will dictate pot size)
• Click here for pot size guide
• Water with filtered water (no chlorine/no Chloramine)
• Keep soil at a moist consistency to keep microbes working efficiently

INGREDIENTS
Canadian sphagnum peat moss, mycorrhizae, bone meal, blood meal, perlite, kelp meal, fish bone meal, wollastonite, worm castings, basalt rock dust, gypsum dust, alfalfa meal, humic acid, dolomite lime & yucca. All ingredients are organic certified.

 

[dwig]

They could use a transplant, if ph keeps fucking you then try a microbe product.

DIRECTIONS

• Condition soil prior to use
• For indoor, use minimum 7-10 gallon pots
• For outdoor, use minimum 30 gallon pot smaller pots can be used if planted later in the season (time of season started will dictate pot size)
• Click here for pot size guide
• Water with filtered water (no chlorine/no Chloramine)
• Keep soil at a moist consistency to keep microbes working efficiently

INGREDIENTS
Canadian sphagnum peat moss, mycorrhizae, bone meal, blood meal, perlite, kelp meal, fish bone meal, wollastonite, worm castings, basalt rock dust, gypsum dust, alfalfa meal, humic acid, dolomite lime & yucca. All ingredients are organic certified.

I have two different microbs I add weekly.

 

[SPLFreak808]

I have two different microbs I add weekly.

What exactly do you add? Tell me everything including your water report

 

[dwig]

I have two different microbs I add weekly.

They could use a transplant, if ph keeps fucking you then try a microbe product.

DIRECTIONS

• Condition soil prior to use
• For indoor, use minimum 7-10 gallon pots
• For outdoor, use minimum 30 gallon pot smaller pots can be used if planted later in the season (time of season started will dictate pot size)
• Click here for pot size guide
• Water with filtered water (no chlorine/no Chloramine)
• Keep soil at a moist consistency to keep microbes working efficiently

INGREDIENTS
Canadian sphagnum peat moss, mycorrhizae, bone meal, blood meal, perlite, kelp meal, fish bone meal, wollastonite, worm castings, basalt rock dust, gypsum dust, alfalfa meal, humic acid, dolomite lime & yucca. All ingredients are organic certified.

Thank you for that chart, I didnt know that was a thing

 

[dwig]

What exactly do you add? Tell me everything including your water report

Well water ph 8.5 350ppm base, I would add recommended amount of photosynthesis plus microbs of 30ml/19L once a week, and step microbs and stepwell em 1 microbs once at a week at 1ml/L. Wouldn’t ph the water. I strted to ph the water this past week to 6 cause its been so high the past month and a bit.

 

[SPLFreak808]

Well water ph 8.5 350ppm base, I would add recommended amount of photosynthesis plus microbs of 30ml/19L once a week, and step microbs and stepwell em 1 microbs once at a week at 1ml/L. Wouldn’t ph the water. I strted to ph the water this past week to 6 cause its been so high the past month and a bit.

I would transplant and only use water for a week or two, introduce your microbes one at a time, do you know what each species is doing? Or are you just using some random stuff? I ask because imho, 3 bottles weekly is excessive, it helps to read about each species.

Yes it's true that organic soil doesn't need to be pH'ed but only if the soil is pH buffered and/or is living, basically take care of it and the plant follows.

Too small/shallow of a pot can actually inhibit certain species of microbes that thrive in the deeper areas, letting your pot dry out also fucks them up along with letting your plant go root bound to the point of drying out daily.

Transplant it and it will be easier to maintain.

 

[dwig]

I would transplant and only use water for a week or two, introduce your microbes one at a time, do you know what each species is doing? Or are you just using some random stuff? I ask because imho, 3 bottles weekly is excessive, it helps to read about each species.

Yes it's true that organic soil doesn't need to be pH'ed but only if the soil is pH buffered and/or is living, basically take care of it and the plant follows.

Too small/shallow of a pot can actually inhibit certain species of microbes that thrive in the deeper areas, letting your pot dry out also fucks them up along with letting your plant go root bound to the point of drying out daily.

Transplant it and it will be easier to maintain.

Okay thank you and ill transplant first thing then. You might be on to something about the pot drying out to fast. I know I need to microbs active by keeping the soil wet and im watering every other day now.

Sorry theres only two bottles I use. I only meant to say stepwell EM 1 essential microbs which came with my soil and photosynthesis plus. I did lots of reading/research on photosynthesis plus and had input from people who used it. It helps the plant intake carbohydrates faster and increases the metabolism as well as other benefits.