The Problems With Biden

londonfog

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Unless Huffington post has been brought by the Russian, the truth about Biden and his racism is being exposed. Interesting read for those who care. For others close your eyes and keep trying to force this man down our throat, while you ignore his racist bullshit

Joe Biden Doubles Down On A Racist Myth About Black Parents.

In a long and often rambling interview with The New York Times published Friday, former Vice President Joe Biden responded to a question about the legacy of racism by blaming Black parents for the racial achievement gap.

In the third 2020 Democratic presidential debate, held in September, Biden had said that one way America could address the legacy of slavery and segregation was by bridging the “word gap” between white and Black children. “A kid coming from a very poor school, a very poor background, will hear 4 million words fewer spoken by the time we get there,” Biden said. He then recommended that Black parents play records at night to “make sure that kids hear words.”

The New York Times editorial board pressed Biden on these claims and asked him to elaborate on how solving the word gap would address the legacy of slavery. Biden began his answer by noting that former President Barack Obama had also been criticized for advising Black parents to take more responsibility for raising children. He then suggested that America could do more to help minority parents “provide more guidance and better guidance for themselves and their families.”

Finally, he suggested that Black parents may not participate in their children’s schooling due to embarrassment about their own lack of education. Biden said he’d learned from his wife, a former school teacher, that poor parents “don’t show up because they’re embarrassed. They’re embarrassed the teacher’s going to say — and it’s hard to say, ‘Well, I can’t read.’”

While somewhat masked by his choppy delivery, Biden’s suggestion that Black parents are reluctant to participate in their children’s education and are responsible for the racial achievement gap has no basis in fact.
To start with, the supposed “word gap” between white and minority students is a highly contested notion. The research on which it is based was carried out in the early 1980s with just 42 families. The researchers, both of whom were white, recorded the interactions of white and Black families and concluded that Black children heard 30 million fewer words by the time they were 3 years old than white children ― a deficit that significantly impeded their linguistic and cognitive abilities.



It was the perfect factoid for the pre-TED Talk era. Politicians across the spectrum cited the “30 million” figure throughout the 1990s and 2000s, often coupling the figure with advice (based on no academic research) that Black parents should play records featuring spoken English to their children.

As the simplistic version of the “word gap” gained popular currency, however, research began to paint a more complicated picture when it came to racial achievement. While gaps in standardized test results between white and Black students do indeed still exist, few academics now explain the cause with a single reason or number.

In 2018, researchers surveyed a much broader range of families than the original study did and found vast linguistic diversity among families of all races and socioeconomic statuses. Far from being bereft of speech, low-income and minority families were, in the words of linguist William Labov, “bathed in verbal stimulation from morning to night.”
Biden’s comments on the “word gap” were bad, but his suggestion that Black parents are reluctant to participate in their children’s education was even worse. For decades, white politicians have blamed Black parents, rather than the legacy of racism, for disparities in achievement.

Studies have consistently found that Black parents are more likely than whites to value post-secondary education. Segregation, mass incarceration and poorly funded schools ― i.e. things that fall squarely under Biden’s responsibility as a politician ― play a larger role in exacerbating the racial achievement gap than parenting styles.

Remarkably, The New York Times editorial board tried to give Biden an out, suggesting that some minority parents are working second jobs. Instead of taking the point, Biden doubled down.

“Well, that’s true,” he said, “but there’s also a good deal of it, and check with the educators, there’s a good deal is they just don’t know what to say, many of them. They don’t show up.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-racist-myth-black-parents_n_5e2215a9c5b674e44b980327

Biden is really full of shit
 

Justin-case

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I'm supporting Biden for one reason, not his past, not policy, but simply his ability to beat trump, badly. I don't want to see a slim victory that trumpers will cry about for generations. I want to see that turd (trump) stomped down the shower drain, and Biden is the guy to do just that. If you don't like him, great, he'll only be around for four years, which will give democrats ample time to decide a candidate for 2024. Just remember, while McConnel has been stacking the courts for wins decades to come, democrats have been looking for short term wins with bonkers purity test for candidates.
 

Jimdamick

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Biden is a good man, not a great man granted, but a good one and has the best chance to beat Trump.
Warren & Sanders blew it with they're extravagant health care proposals which most Americans are scared of, including me.
If we weren't so deep in debt & spending trillions of $'s on defense, we could possibly pay for it, but as it stands now the cost associated with they're plans are simply unrealistic in my opinion.
 

scumrot derelict

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Alright you fucking fishbellys, and junglebunnies - let's break this racist as fuck thread the fuck up. back to your bunks.

I don't want to hear shit else. Lights out.
 

dandyrandy

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Are black people who use the N word racist?

Can't say that.
I could to my best friend. He is African American. Very religious. His brother believes blacks were the lost tribe of Israel? I need to research that. But I would feel badly to say it to him. He's earned my respect. And I'm an asshole.
 

Justin-case

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Are black people who use the N word racist?

Can't say that.
People change, times change, what he believed, or was told then doesn't make him a racist now.

Agreeing with obama makes him a racist, seriously, wtf.

I suspect fog made this thread in an attempt to troll buck for throwing around the word too much.
 
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scumrot derelict

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I could to my best friend. He is African American. Very religious. His brother believes blacks were the lost tribe of Israel? I need to research that. But I would feel badly to say it to him. He's earned my respect. And I'm an asshole.
I called one of my gay friends f-g, too. Or at least I used to when I was growing up. It maked the fucking torture of hearing that shit getting splashed on you every day feel like some kind of accomplishment for a change. But, I'm not sure it makes it right.

But that's because being a fucking F-ggot used to mean being worried about getting your ass kicked on a daily basis. Used to mean, a whole bunch of fucked up shit.

I guess just as long as I never hear another person in my life using it as a pejorative, or like, some kind of insult thrown at me while i'm literally getting my skull stomped in while I'm hearing it, i could keep my mouth shut.

Woa, that turned intoa rant, sorry.
 

Justin-case

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I called one of my gay friends f-g, too. Or at least I used to when I was growing up. It maked the fucking torture of hearing that shit getting splashed on you every day feel like some kind of accomplishment for a change. But, I'm not sure it makes it right.

But that's because being a fucking F-ggot used to mean being worried about getting your ass kicked on a daily basis. Used to mean, a whole bunch of fucked up shit.

I guess just as long as I never hear another person in my life using it as a pejorative, or like, some kind of insult thrown at me while i'm literally getting my skull stomped in while I'm hearing it, i could keep my mouth shut.

Woa, that turned intoa rant, sorry.
Schu says dumb racist shit all the time,

It doesn't mean she's a white supremacists.
 

abandonconflict

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People change, times change, what he believed, or was told then doesn't make him a racist now.

Agreeing with obama makes him a racist, seriously, wtf.

I suspect fog made this thread in an attempt to troll buck for throwing around the word too much.
Londonfog told me quite matter-of-factly that he just has a visceral hatred of Biden, very much like how I feel about Bernie. I take that at face value.
 
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