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smokedogg16

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Just yesterday my little lady was looking healthy but just a little run down on her. It broke surface on the 8th of January & has been in the bucket with light nutrients since the 10th so it roughly a week old. Im using Foxfarm Trio nutrients by the way but I changed the DWC bucket and added the same amount of new nutrients to her and my others as well. The other two are still looking healthy and one of the 2 im talking about has only been in the bucket only 5 days and is still a baby but is looking better than yesterday. The plant thats lacking had big beautiful roots to be a week out hanging from the sides but now I can barely see them as if the done shrunk back into the hydroton pebbles,

No.... Not top feeding I just got that extra air line that you see running through the top because the air pump I got is for 4 buckets but im only using 3 so it was one extra air line I just ran through the top so my bucket can close properly. I had one air stone in the bottom of the bucket & the line you see running through the top was submerged in the dwc closer up to the basket. The only thing I did different with this plant was take the & extra airline out.

The air pump I'm using at the moment is below. Its made for 4 buckets but im using it with three 5 gallon buckets to give you a better understanding

The only thing I did different with that bucket was take the extra air stone & line I had out of that bucket to start a forth bucket. Could me taking away that extra air be the problem & can I save it by adding it back?


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these are the other two that are doing great with the same amount of nutrients. The biggest plant is the same strain from the same place as the one above & is 2 weeks old!


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I started all of them including this pineapple with half nutrients for a light feeding & cleaned the buckets out & gave it a full feeding with the other 2 above and she still looking beautiful is which makes the think is not nothing to do with the nutrients but instead it has something to do with me moving that extra air line




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this is the pump im using with three 5 gallon buckets

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fragileassassin

fragileassassin

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If you have no waterfalls or any agitation, you need more airpumps. That pump is big enough for 1 - 1.5 buckets. You need to aim for 15L per minute per site.. but probably not an issue yet at that size.
+1 on nute strength. Plants that small, I wouldnt be giving much of anything at all yet.
 
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smokedogg16

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fragileassassin said:
If you have no waterfalls or any agitation, you need more airpumps. That pump is big enough for 1 - 1.5 buckets. You need to aim for 15L per minute per site.. but probably not an issue yet at that size.
+1 on nute strength. Plants that small, I wouldnt be giving much of anything at all yet.
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I feed & ph all three of them the same. I also get your point about it needing more air is what I think it is because I had 2 air lines in that bucket & yesterday the roots was huge for the plant to be a week old but I took one airline out
 
fragileassassin

fragileassassin

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smokedogg16 said:
I feed & ph all three of them the same. I also get your point about it needing more air is what I think it is because I had 2 air lines in that bucket & yesterday the roots was huge for the plant to be a week old but I took one airline out
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That still doesnt answer how MUCH youre feeding. If youre doing what the bottles say to start at for seedlings, you probably need to cut that in half.
Id be below 300ppm for those right now.
 
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smokedogg16

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I don't know how ppm's because I need to get a ppm pen but to answer your question I'm using Foxfarm Trio and I put 1 table spoon per gallon of big bloom & 1 tea spoon per gallon of grow big
 
fragileassassin

fragileassassin

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Yeah, make that the very next thing you spend money on. Being able to read ppm is one of the most important things in hydro.
Vast majority of what im finding says you should be ok at that level of the big bloom, but you dont need any grow big for the first 2 weeks or so, so its likely youve over fed them a bit for their size. The first and third plants barely need more than tap water at their size.
For babies and seedlings, I go to 1/4 strength and dont up it until my ppm starts to drop some.
 
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smokedogg16

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fragileassassin said:
Yeah, make that the very next thing you spend money on. Being able to read ppm is one of the most important things in hydro.
Vast majority of what im finding says you should be ok at that level of the big bloom, but you dont need any grow big for the first 2 weeks or so, so its likely youve over fed them a bit for their size. The first and third plants barely need more than tap water at their size.
For babies and seedlings, I go to 1/4 strength and dont up it until my ppm starts to drop some.
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Should I flush first for 24hrs or is it ok to do a quick full water change with 1/4 nutrients
 
fragileassassin

fragileassassin

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smokedogg16 said:
Should I flush first for 24hrs or is it ok to do a quick full water change with 1/4 nutrients
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Id just change it with lower str and just give them some time. Once you make babies unhappy, it can take a few days for things to turn around.
When you get a meter, check your ppm every time you check your ph.
 
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smokedogg16

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fragileassassin said:
Id just change it with lower str and just give them some time. Once you make babies unhappy, it can take a few days for things to turn around.
When you get a meter, check your ppm every time you check your ph.
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sounds like a plan I should put in action with both of the babies while I at it. My lights turn back on at 3 & thats the first thing im gone do!
 
Airwalker16

Airwalker16

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Always remember, some seeds are duds from the get go. Right from the time they pop open they sometimes just don't have what it takes.
Or... Sometimes they're just very very slow starters who eventually get their Shit together and come out of it swinging.
 
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smokedogg16

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Airwalker16 said:
Always remember, some seeds are duds from the get go. Right from the time they pop open they sometimes just don't have what it takes.
Or... Sometimes they're just very very slow starters who eventually get their Shit together and come out of it swi

I ordered the Pineapple Express seeds from Fastbuds and I tried germinating 3 seeds. One didn't pop at all, one popped but didn't want to go any further, and the last one is the baby baby you see in the photo
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rkymtnman

rkymtnman

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i would ditch that tin foil too. you are going to get some weird hot spot reflections with it. go with blk/white poly film instead. or even white cardboard
 
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