Is this a bad thing?

Greybush7387

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I was wondering about this as I was trying to find my tweezers. I know some breeders use a silver sorcery solution, but also know other breeders are suspicious of witchcraft. Or just cheap.
Good looking out on the water spray, too.


I think I'm gonna like it here.
Some people have 0 to contribute but lots of us are very experienced you will know who is dumb as hell and who knows thier shit. Theres a good chance that bud was pollinated a tad from inside where the sack was. I wouldnt grow the seeds unless u have no others, and u know that ladie isnt prone to intersex part. Just keep hunting. Good luck.
 

spek9

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thats how some breeders get female pollen
That's not how things work. Pollen from a hermaphroditic plant (which the OPs is showing signs of) has both X and Y chromosomes, so there's absolutely no guarantee that the seeds will produce female plants. In fact, it's very possible that if the seeds do grow into female plants, they carry the same genetics, so will also become hermie.

To make feminized seeds, the pollen must be produced from a completely female plant. When forced to produce pollen (I use the Colloidal Silver method, with CS I make at 40ppm), the pollen will contain only the X (female) chromosome. When using that pollen to pollinate another known female, the result will be feminized seeds as instead of X-Y combination, there will be two female (X-X) chromosomes.
 
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spek9

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I know some breeders use a silver sorcery solution
Colloidal Silver at about 40ppm can be used to force a female plant to produce pollen. This pollen, when then used on another (or the same) female plant, will create seeds that have two X chromosomes, ie. feminized seeds.

It's not sorcery, it's actually very easy!

Here's how I do it:

- Create or buy 40ppm Colloidal Silver (I go through about 30mL for a plant that's been in veg for five weeks)
- About three days before going to flower, start misting all bud sites on the plant you want to ensure generates pollen (make sure the plant is female first, of course)
- For about the next three weeks while in flower, keep misting the same areas. I do twice per day... at lights on, and just prior to lights off

That's it!

Later in the flower cycle, when the pollen sacks are bulging and ready to burst, I cut the plant down and put it into a paper bag for a couple of days. Then, over a large sheet of white paper, I shake the plant and manually break open the pollen sacks that remain closed.

I scrape up all of the pollen into a pile, mix it very well with twice the amount of baking flour, then store it in 35mm black film canisters, and store it in my seed bin in the cold cellar in my basement.

The flour simply multiplies the amount, and binds to the pollen so that when applying to another female plant, there's far less chance for it to be blowing all over the place.

When you've got other females ready to apply to, take a tiny paint brush, dip it into the pollen, and apply it to the locations on the female plant that you want to produce seeds. I apply very shortly after the pistils shoot out. You'll know the pollen took, because the pistils will shrivel up and turn orange.

Note that it's critically important that the plant you're creating pollen with is isolated from other females you're flowering before the pollen sacks begin to open. Also, when applying the pollen to other females that you want to seed, do it far away from the flower area, and very carefully put it back with the other females as to not disturb the pollen and send it airborne. I have two separate grow cabinets for each of these two processes, outside of my clone, veg and flower areas.

Also, you do not have to use entire plants. You can force only a branch or two on a single plant to produce pollen, and when the sacks are near ready, just cut those branches off. When you apply the pollen to a female plant, you can do the same thing... just one or two branches, or the entire thing.

Note: Do NOT smoke the parts of a female plant that you've misted with silver. I used to do just partial plants, but now I just do the entire things.
 
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BudgetMessiah

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So a little update. No addition nanners spotted, but I did notice this pistil on the selfsame bud looks to have closed shut like a clamshell. I'm assuming this means it has been pollinated. But I'm not seeing these everywhere, so I trust this is a sign of hope.
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Gonna be honest with myself though. This grow is a cramped mess, so there's no way I can thoroughly inspect everything. And even if I could easily check every inch of these plants, my eyes aren't great, and I could easily miss other signs of trouble.

So I'm not setting my hopes on a very successful outcome. But I am enjoying the ride.
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