Auto hell.. no idea whats up. 4 months in..

icetech

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Just a quick update.. switched to 10/14 and the plant seems to like being trimmed.. a bit of new growth that looks good... and i am seeing some trichomes starting to build up :)
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Wastei

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Way to long photo period. That girl doesn't know what to do! I've always run Autos alongside my regs with 18/6. She needs shorter photo period and less nutrients. How often and how much do you feed her?

In dirt I do the feed-feed-water regime and always flush before entering flower and mid flower to combat nutrient imbalances.
 
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icetech

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Way to long photo period. That girl doesn't know what to do! I've always run Autos alongside my regs with 18/12. She needs shorter photo period and less nutrients. How often and how much do you feed her?

In dirt I do the feed-feed-water regime and always flush before entering flower and mid flower to combat nutrient imbalances.
It was 18/6 most of it's life.. it's now on 10/14 i always read how autos were just run 18 hours through life... Nope.... never doing an auto again since it's basically a photo with less control over it..

it gets 800ppm of jacks at 6.2ppm about 1gallon a night.
 

Wastei

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It was 18/6 most of it's life.. it's now on 10/14 i always read how autos were just run 18 hours through life... Nope.... never doing an auto again since it's basically a photo with less control over it..

it gets 800ppm of jacks at 6.2ppm about 1gallon a night.
I think that's a little bit on the strong side. I never feed more than 400ppm in containers with RO water.

Some Autos need less light to flower. I don't bother buying Autos. Always just planted freebies for fun!
 

icetech

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I think that's a little bit on the strong side. I never feed more than 400ppm in containers with RO water.

Some Autos need less light to flower. I don't bother buying Autos. Always just planted freebies for fun!
400? wow that seems crazy low.. i have always been 800-1000.. i might try going a bit lower though.

And yeah, i bought autos cause everyone talks about them like they are insanely fast and the greatest thing ever, so i just wanted to try it.. i'm going back to photos though.. plus then i can clone again :) Waiting on seeds ATM..
 

Wastei

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400? wow that seems crazy low.. i have always been 800-1000.. i might try going a bit lower though.

And yeah, i bought autos cause everyone talks about them like they are insanely fast and the greatest thing ever, so i just wanted to try it.. i'm going back to photos though.. plus then i can clone again :) Waiting on seeds ATM..
You would be surprised how low you have to go to not overfeed in containers. Some people feed at higher strength and just water in between feedings. You have to think of what's actually in the medium.

I friend of mine have been running in coir forever and he feed every watering with just 350ppms in flower. There's a lot of ways to the finish line. Manufacturers recommendations is targeted for maximal use and profit. It takes time and it's a gradual process learning how to read the plants.
 

Kassiopeija

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You have to think of what's actually in the medium.
thats true, so in fresh soil one has to add the soil EC to the actual fed. For some allmixes that could be initially as high as EC+2.5mS, so after transplant there's basically 0 need to feed nutes at all if roots are still able to search in the new medium for mineralic content.

But the OP actually grows in Coco, there one has to feed in regions as high as in hydro, maybe even a bit more if we keep in mind Coco's "steals" CalMag (if not precharged)
 

Wastei

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thats true, so in fresh soil one has to add the soil EC to the actual fed. For some allmixes that could be initially as high as EC+2.5mS, so after transplant there's basically 0 need to feed nutes at all if roots are still able to search in the new medium for mineralic content.

But the OP actually grows in Coco, there one has to feed in regions as high as in hydro, maybe even a bit more if we keep in mind Coco's "steals" CalMag (if not precharged)
You're completely right. But there's also a lot of different watering techniques. I don't believe you need to go as high as in hydro in coir because of its buffer capability. But you have to feed a little bit higher than soil for sure!

You actually get good understanding of how you should optimally feed in coir by running a hydroponic recirculating system. I see coir containers as small reservoirs. If I buffer the coir with full strength I can never top off or feed with the same strength I want in the medium.

All nutrients is never fully consumed with a watering.
 

icetech

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Soo.. this beast is still putting on new growth at a pretty fast rate, (at least the new stuff looks healthy) The colas all look like someone had WAY too many buds and stuck them all together, just so weird.. still think it's not gonna finish and will go for the chop :(

P.S. this has been on 8/16 for about a week now... (8 on)

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icetech

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Ended up chopping it yesterday... it was never finishing and was putting out like small vines with popcorn buds randomly.. really weird plant. Have a Laughing buddha seed and a Dos Si Dos 33 germing right now :) Been wanting to grow buddha for over a year, going to stop wasting time on strains i don't care about.
 

Kassiopeija

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I wonder if your plants looks was the result of a rare/old genetic material came to the surface, maybe some landrace genes that breeders crossed in previously to freshen up the genepool?
 

icetech

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I wonder if your plants looks was the result of a rare/old genetic material came to the surface, maybe some landrace genes that breeders crossed in previously to freshen up the genepool?
No idea but it sucked :) I'm not playing with autos again thats for sure.. tried 2 strains and both were messes. back to photos! :)
 
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