Hashishh
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Any sources to back those statements up?
PH dropping quickly, cant get away from 4.6
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Plants take up available nutrients in elemental form organics needs to be broken down by microbial life into elemental form salt based are already in elemental form.... There is no difference between the 2 in terms of what the plant takes up the difference is availability and the sustainability of the soil. I encourage you to read about the difference because you obviously have no clue about what you are saying.
DankNoTill
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Lmfao a hydro grower telling me idk how plants uptake nutrients or how nutrient availability works. That is fucking comedy. I am dying at the fact that these companies got you believing in your elemental salt nutes.
Fast Google search to get you on your way. There is lots out there maybe do some reading on it instead of making false or uninformed claims then just trying to be right. There is enough bs info ppl have to sift through on here. They don't need more.
Here's the scoop on chemical and organic fertilizers
Use these tips on how to apply organic amendments
Read that link.. then read some more then hopefully you understand the difference I can't help stupid but I can help people willing to learn. So it's up to you.
If you know something I don't please feel free to share I'm always open to listen and make my share of mistakes also... But I try to learn from each and every one
DirtyStrawHat
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Thanks for this... here are some pics of the burn im beginning to see, note the droop and leaf curl.. a wave of sweat broke over me as I unzipped the door and saw this.. Im going to be pissed if this is just a hidden root rot issue but the great white hasnt had any issue overtaking it in previous grows..Not sure the exact repurcussions to adding that much in but if anything it'll mess you up when you go to read your EC.
You said you only started getting seeing this issue when you started using these new nutes right?
Check out their FAQ section maybe? They mention a few things about buffers and whatnot.
Frequently Asked Questions - Remo Nutrients | Premium Plant Nutrients and Supplements
www.remonutrients.com
And maybe a look here as well.
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DirtyStrawHat
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Slight magnesium deficiency and light/heat stress is what i see
DankNoTill
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I have read comparison info numerous times. That like I said is irrelevant to the fact that we are the ones that consume the plant in the end. You take your synthetic after flush bud and cure it side by side with bud properly grown in living soil and see what happens. I didn't come into this thread to argue at all I just seen the Ph complaints and thought holy shit is it really worth the aggravation just to be able to instantly feed the plant and fix issues?
DirtyStrawHat
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temps and rh are posted, ill try and get a pic of the roots.. pics taken with shitty phone not actually iphone 10 LOL
You do realize microbes convert organic nutes into inorganic elements right? Smh ok I can't fix stupid.. good luck bro
DirtyStrawHat
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so bump my mag? could i be getting lockout ?
I can't say the reason. Let me read back
Haha I think thread title say it all bro. Sorry a bit high right now. It's likely ph related
DirtyStrawHat
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also with the deficiencies, would that make my ph turn acid in hours?? Heat stress maybe but its been in there doing great its entire life so far.. this only happen when i began to see serious acid ph
Hashishh
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It shouldn't. Even with root rot, it generally sends your Ph up in my experience.
Have you used Ph up and down in the same batch of nutrients?
Heat/light stress slows down transpiration and photosynthesis and intern nutrient uptake. You ppm are probably rising meaning the solution is becoming more concentrated and as nutrients we use are generally more acidic your ph will drop as this happens. do you have a ppm meter?
DankNoTill
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Microbes are the whole reason the bud is superior. I've smoked synthetically grown properly flushed dried and long cured bud my whole life and not until I smoked living soil weed did I know what I was missing. Good luck to you as well I guess? I don't need luck towards anything when the smoke speaks for itself.
Root rot will lower ph from decaying organics. Ph up and down is ok to use if you need to create a buffering capacity.
OP have a pic of the roots?
I'm not at all doubting microbes play a role in the flavonoids some how... I don't know exactly and there has been alot on anicdotal and peer info that would suggest they do... Maybe some scientific data but I'm not aware of. Sulfur imo is most impactful.
The notion of chemical taste from nutes is BS. High P and over fed plants high in chlorophyll make shit tasting weed. Not the nutrient sources. Now it is much easier to overfeed with inorganic nutrients leading to high amounts of chlorophyll and P so thats what you may be confusing