Save them or start again?

[arkady]

Well I’ve up rooted coco plants before. Move away the coco around the roots ball so you can get a good look. If the roots are good put back into a smaller container with per light. This will give them lots of air. On a side note you could also wash all the coco off the roots and drop in a bubble bucket. I’ve done this several times as most of the clones I get are in some sort of soiless mix.
Either or it’s too bad there not responding. Good luck.

They are not responding to anything any more. Its a shame. I think its time to say good bye to my babies and start again

 

[coreywebster]

As you have suggested I have done all this and they are still on their way down....

You've dimmed to 50%, reduced light hours, raised light, increased temps?

You have plenty of drainage , watering to run off , properly saturating the coco?

Do you have an EC truncheon?

 

[myke]

Has to be root problem. Either way open one up and look. I can’t see starting again without at least finding out why this is happening.

 

[MickFoster]

I wouldn't pack it in yet. There is nothing hard about growing in coco.....unless you treat it like soil.
Coco is drain to waste hydroponics and should never dry out......daily feeding is required......twice a day in flower.
Feed 1/4 strength nutes daily to run off pH'd around 6.0.

Next time start in smaller pots and add 30% perlite to your coco.

These plants are 2 weeks from sprout and fed daily.
Good luck.


Here's a link to a site on the proper way to grow in coco......www.cocoforcannabis.com.

 

[CanadianJim]

The biggest problem with soil nutes in coco is that they're lighter on a lot of the micro nutrients, like zinc, and iron. That is probably part of your problem. I would either go with hydro nutes, or transplant into soil while you read up on coco.

 

[arkady]

You've dimmed to 50%, reduced light hours, raised light, increased temps?

You have plenty of drainage , watering to run off , properly saturating the coco?

Do you have an EC truncheon?

I cant dim the lights but I have raise them to almost 30'' now. Temp around 22-25C. Its hard to for me to maintain it at the higher end of the scale.

I try not to overwater them. I go by a weight of the pot. I think there might be a root problem.

 

[arkady]

Has to be root problem. Either way open one up and look. I can’t see starting again without at least finding out why this is happening.

I could pop one out of the pot and take some pics tomorrow.

 

[arkady]

I wouldn't pack it in yet. There is nothing hard about growing in coco.....unless you treat it like soil.
Coco is drain to waste hydroponics and should never dry out......daily feeding is required......twice a day in flower.
Feed 1/4 strength nutes daily to run off pH'd around 6.0.

Next time start in smaller pots and add 30% perlite to your coco.

These plants are 2 weeks from sprout and fed daily.
Good luck.
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Here's a link to a site on the proper way to grow in coco......www.cocoforcannabis.com.

Amazing work. Thank you will do

 

[coreywebster]

I cant dim the lights but I have raise them to almost 30'' now. Temp around 22-25C. Its hard to for me to maintain it at the higher end of the scale.

I try not to overwater them. I go by a weight of the pot. I think there might be a root problem.

Isnt it a scope 150? Should be dimmable .

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[arkady]

Isnt it a scope 150? Should be dimmable .

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Yeah it is can't see the dimmer

 

[CraigMk]

Save em

 

[cobshopgrow]

+1 on too much light, try to reduce the DLI, light they get.
Take me always a bit too to not go overboard., these new ligths are dam effiicient, dial it down and wait! had this several times.....

 

[Sloppyholes]

I am in no position to give any advice I’m so wet under my collar it’s a joke. One grow with a ton a flaws, but it’s was good for me. Honestly take a breath your moving to fast haven’t gave them a chance to heal and come back. Been throwing this and that so fast if something is wrong how will know in the future what was truly wrong. I understand you don’t have room, neither do I but don’t want to go down the same road again when I get things wrong something should be learned from it. Again just food for thought give them time if you give up what learned. Also how they looked at beginning of the post and now you done the damage y rushing to fix it so fast. Plant time not yours

 

[coreywebster]

Yeah it is can't see the dimmer

Normally there is one or two black rubber caps on top of the driver and the one that says "lo ADJ" dims the current.(lift cap and use small flat head screw driver)
Unless it say XLG on the driver , as I know he is using those new drivers with some of his new lights and im not sure about those.

 

[arkady]

I am in no position to give any advice I’m so wet under my collar it’s a joke. One grow with a ton a flaws, but it’s was good for me. Honestly take a breath your moving to fast haven’t gave them a chance to heal and come back. Been throwing this and that so fast if something is wrong how will know in the future what was truly wrong. I understand you don’t have room, neither do I but don’t want to go down the same road again when I get things wrong something should be learned from it. Again just food for thought give them time if you give up what learned. Also how they looked at beginning of the post and now you done the damage y rushing to fix it so fast. Plant time not yours

Well said I need to have a look back and see where I went wrong

 

[cobshopgrow]

Normally there is one or two black rubber caps on top of the driver and the one that says "lo ADJ" dims the current.(lift cap and use small flat head screw driver)
Unless it say XLG on the driver , as I know he is using those new drivers with some of his new lights and im not sure about those.

i think your recommendation is spot on for the XLG drivers too.
Never used them, but they are like the HLG A/B types as far i saw.

Btw. i have my 320w light dialed down to 48w atm, 80 was too much, little droppy and 100w, i thought they die and my plants are little bigger then yours, also repotted a few days ago.

 

[cobshopgrow]

btw, isnt there a cable unused on your driver next to the power out to the leds?
where you can connect a pot? buy 5 100k from ebay then, guess diyled.uk would have a solution for you too.
guess your xlg is sensefull set from the builder, if you dont have at least a multimeter it can be hard to set the screws right, ok, anticlockwise is always safe, just think for later when you want to set it back to full.

Ah and the picutres you showed and said they look like you put bleach on them, looks like light burned leaves to me, cut the most damaged and wait a week, theyll come back even stronger.

 

[arkady]

i think your recommendation is spot on for the XLG drivers too.
Never used them, but they are like the HLG A/B types as far i saw.

Btw. i have my 320w light dialed down to 48w atm, 80 was too much, little droppy and 100w, i thought they die and my plants are little bigger then yours, also repotted a few days ago.

My plants have stopped growing for a over a week now and they are more pail looking and have more burnt spots than ever before. Im done

 

[arkady]

btw, isnt there a cable unused on your driver next to the power out to the leds?
where you can connect a pot? buy 5 100k from ebay then, guess diyled.uk would have a solution for you too.
guess your xlg is sensefull set from the builder, if you dont have at least a multimeter it can be hard to set the screws right, ok, anticlockwise is always safe, just think for later when you want to set it back to full.

Ah and the picutres you showed and said they look like you put bleach on them, looks like light burned leaves to me, cut the most damaged and wait a week, theyll come back even stronger.

I literally did that last week. It seemed to only worsen the situation as whatever is bothering the girls has now moved up the plant and eating up the smaller, healthier leaf's.

 

[cobshopgrow]

heads up, happened to all of us, really burned some clones hard in a veg box, took 2 weeks and they where nice again.
in the end do what you feel good with, but as long there are some healthy roots they can come back quick i say, as long the enviroment fits.