One strain lookin funny.

calvin.m16 said:
You have a Calcium deficiency for certain (Rusty spots all over leaves) and potentially a magnesium deficiency from the yellowing of the leaves starting mostly bottom up. I'd add ~3 ml of CalMag+ from Botanicare every watering per/gal. Based on your NPK that is not very high so you can definitely bump the nitrogen levels up especially in veg right now, meaning add CalMag+ which is 2-0-0.

Good luck, it will recover they don't look bad. People saying they're starving are wrong do not attempt to over feed.
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The 3-2-1 jacks isn’t enough cal and mag? I added a bit more epsom yesterday and watered everything.
should I add calmag on top of my nutes? I’ve got some, don’t mind trying it but also don’t want to overdo it. I also adjusted my ph.
 
calvin.m16 said:
You have a Calcium deficiency for certain (Rusty spots all over leaves) and potentially a magnesium deficiency from the yellowing of the leaves starting mostly bottom up. I'd add ~3 ml of CalMag+ from Botanicare every watering per/gal. Based on your NPK that is not very high so you can definitely bump the nitrogen levels up especially in veg right now, meaning add CalMag+ which is 2-0-0.

Good luck, it will recover they don't look bad. People saying they're starving are wrong do not attempt to over feed.
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321 isn’t my npk Incase that’s what you’re thinking.
 
Is 1/2 gal your final pot size? Kind of small for final containers unless you're doing a SOG grow. First thing to confirm is ph, IMO. If your ph was off quite a bit, wait and see if your ph adjustment helps. In the meantime, think about adding cal-mag like others have suggested.
 
I’m going into 3s. Just don’t have enough room to do them all comfortably so i wait till my flower room is pretty much done, transplant and move them in after cleaning. So I’m still confused about the cal mag thing. I use cal and mag every watering. I’m just not using botanicare calmag. I have a jug of it but I can add more epsom for mag and calcium is in the part b of jacks. Calnit. Should I just up my epsom or part b dose or should I really add calmag?
I just started using jacks a couple rounds ago so I’m unsure.
 
Forbinwasblue said:
The 3-2-1 jacks isn’t enough cal and mag? I added a bit more epsom yesterday and watered everything.
should I add calmag on top of my nutes? I’ve got some, don’t mind trying it but also don’t want to overdo it. I also adjusted my ph.
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Honestly man it looks like they just got nutrient burn. If anything it appears to be a Calcium Deficiency. I'm a newer grower and I've had plants do the same thing and I started adding stuff instead of just giving the plants time.

I would give PLAIN ~6 PH water for the next few days and see if they recover. If you're noticing more of those rusty spots you need to increase calcium. Jacks is very hot stuff and reminds me a lot of Maxi series by General Hydroponics which burned my plants just like this earlier this year..... I was using 1/4 their recommended dosage on 1 month old seedlings. Went back to Advanced Nutrients 3 part base and even in Coco I have no issues anymore and threw out all my PH stuff.
 
I’m going into 3s. Just don’t have enough room to do them all comfortably so i wait till my flower room is pretty much done, transplant and move them in after cleaning. So I’m still confused about the cal mag thing. I use cal and mag every watering. I’m just not using botanicare calmag. I have a jug of it but I can add more epsom for mag and calcium is in the part b of jacks. Calnit. Should I just up my epsom or part b dose or should I really add calmag?
I just started using jacks a couple rounds ago so I’m unsure.
calvin.m16 said:
Honestly man it looks like they just got nutrient burn. If anything it appears to be a Calcium Deficiency. I'm a newer grower and I've had plants do the same thing and I started adding stuff instead of just giving the plants time.

I would give PLAIN ~6 PH water for the next few days and see if they recover. If you're noticing more of those rusty spots you need to increase calcium. Jacks is very hot stuff and reminds me a lot of Maxi series by General Hydroponics which burned my plants just like this earlier this year.....
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Thats another confusing thing. I’ve never used just water when growing in coco. Mixed opinions about it.
 
Forbinwasblue said:
I’m going into 3s. Just don’t have enough room to do them all comfortably so i wait till my flower room is pretty much done, transplant and move them in after cleaning. So I’m still confused about the cal mag thing. I use cal and mag every watering. I’m just not using botanicare calmag. I have a jug of it but I can add more epsom for mag and calcium is in the part b of jacks. Calnit. Should I just up my epsom or part b dose or should I really add calmag?
I just started using jacks a couple rounds ago so I’m unsure.

Thats another confusing thing. I’ve never used just water when growing in coco. Mixed opinions about it.
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That happened when I used a very similar product to Jacks which would be Maxi series by GenHydro. It was nutrient burn not a deficiency.

Deficiencies you'll notice rusty spots, yellowing and definitely a larger scale of damage than what your pictures show.

I knew it was a burn because I ran plain ~6 PH 20ppm RO for 1 entire week and the plants recovered and started thriving. Your medium will have plenty of calcium and iron from that Jacks if it's hot as is.. Also know those leaves are going to always look like sh*t and you'll end up just needing to pull them later on as they worsen.
 
calvin.m16 said:
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That happened when I used a very similar product to Jacks which would be Maxi series by GenHydro. It was nutrient burn not a deficiency.

Deficiencies you'll notice rusty spots, yellowing and definitely a larger scale of damage than what your pictures show.

I knew it was a burn because I ran plain ~6 PH 20ppm RO for 1 entire week and the plants recovered and started thriving. Your medium will have plenty of calcium and iron from that Jacks if it's hot as is.. Also know those leaves are going to always look like sh*t and you'll end up just needing to pull them later on as they worsen.
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Ok cool. I’ll give it a shot. I’ve been pulling the shit ones off too. Thanks for your help homie.
 
Forbinwasblue said:
Ok cool. I’ll give it a shot. I’ve been pulling the shit ones off too. Thanks for your help homie.
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No problem I'll keep an eye if you care to post an update in a few days. The major thing is instead of adding stuff (I think of doing the same thing) it's best to actually just give them water and then gradually add the BASE stuff then see how they respond after a couple weeks, then kinda slowly add in other stuff or up your base. I quit adding anything except just AdvancedNutrients "ph perfect" GrowMicroBloom and legit have no more headaches.

Look around the forum you will see LOTS of people having the same problems with dry nutrients like General Hydroponics Maxi Series & Jacks etc.. It's not bad stuff it just requires way too much tinkering to get it right. I will say though if you switch to AN GMB "ph perfect" you do have to feed every single watering in Coco. I also use the same stuff in a basic DWC Bubble Bucket and it works out great with just the base nutrients and never even checking PH.
 
Oh also I've gone like 15 days on a flush in 5 gal coco pots before my plants even showed signs of deficiencies literally just watering them with 20 PPM RO water @ 6 PH.
 
I’ve alway fed every day in coco
calvin.m16 said:
No problem I'll keep an eye if you care to post an update in a few days. The major thing is instead of adding stuff (I think of doing the same thing) it's best to actually just give them water and then gradually add the BASE stuff then see how they respond after a couple weeks, then kinda slowly add in other stuff or up your base. I quit adding anything except just AdvancedNutrients "ph perfect" GrowMicroBloom and legit have no more headaches.

Look around the forum you will see LOTS of people having the same problems with dry nutrients like General Hydroponics Maxi Series & Jacks etc.. It's not bad stuff it just requires way too much tinkering to get it right. I will say though if you switch to AN GMB "ph perfect" you do have to feed every single watering in Coco. I also use the same stuff in a basic DWC Bubble Bucket and it works out great with just the base nutrients and never even checking PH.
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I’ve always fed every watering in coco and that’s daily in flower. Multiple times later into flower. I was using gh flora. Got sick of the liquid. So I tried this. It worked fine last round but I ran hempys with pretty much all perlite. Isn’t there a lot of bad reviews about AN? I don’t know why or what but I remember reading shit that for whatever reason kept me away. And jacks is so cheap. I’ve got a pretty big room and since I took this spot over haven’t dialed it in at all. I keep trying new shit. But that’s why I back in coco cause those runs have been my best. It’s just harder to get my irrigation even with it and I need automation.
anyways, I guess I’ll look into advanced. Thanks again.
 
Forbinwasblue said:
I’ve alway fed every day in coco

I’ve always fed every watering in coco and that’s daily in flower. Multiple times later into flower. I was using gh flora. Got sick of the liquid. So I tried this. It worked fine last round but I ran hempys with pretty much all perlite. Isn’t there a lot of bad reviews about AN? I don’t know why or what but I remember reading shit that for whatever reason kept me away. And jacks is so cheap. I’ve got a pretty big room and since I took this spot over haven’t dialed it in at all. I keep trying new shit. But that’s why I back in coco cause those runs have been my best. It’s just harder to get my irrigation even with it and I need automation.
anyways, I guess I’ll look into advanced. Thanks again.
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People hate on Advanced Nutrients because it's more expensive but if you look at what's included the base already has aminos, ca/mg/iron and Advanced Nutrients are designed 100% for Cannabis where the other nutrients are not cannabis specific.

I'm not a salesman or sponsored or endorsed by A/N I just notice a lot of old timers or hipsters who follow what everyone says and don't try things for themselves hating on it. I personally tried it and have had zero issues since switching and legit it works as advertised in Coco & DWC.

If you look at their 3 part it's now about the same price as General Hydro Flora 3 part if not cheaper. Check out Danthegrowman website and or stop into your local shop and give it a try for a few plants. Like I said I run a 5 gallon resevoir for watering my coco plants and I run 2 oz of each part and I do not buy their other stuff like Big Bud or Voodoo Juice or any of that crap. You don't need it. You only need the base nutrients.

I ran the extra stuff from GH like Golden Nectar, KoolBloom and it made my smoke taste bad even doing a 10 day "flush" before harvest. Anything that isn't going to be metabolized by the plant stays out of my buckets. That way at the end I can starve the plants and they'll eat up excess sugars/nutrients left over and not be harsh or congealed when smoked.

But yeah tl;dr I also was seeing all the guys posting "A/N IS TRASH SCAM" blahblah but quite frankly when I ran Lucas Formula from General Hydro I was having way more problems, spending more money on PH adjusters and was averaging 4-6 ounces per/plant whereas now I'm averaging 6-8 ounces per/plant growing AutoFlowers....

It speaks for itself.

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By the way that cola I was holding was flushed for 13 days in a 5 gal coco pot before chopping and the leaves were all still perfectly healthy looking. lol
 
Is it really cheaper than flora now? I’d definitely try it for a run if that’s the case. I wanted the voodoo for soaking cubes but they don’t sell it in my state and my store doesn’t sell advanced at all I don’t think. Unless they changed it.
 
Jypsy Dog said:
Keep poking at me fuck tard.. You and your stupid self make me laugh. Was out to help you b4 your inbred brain clicked in.
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No. You weren’t. You’re just a douche. And let’s not get back on the inbreeding thing. I know that’s a sore subject for ya.
 
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