Can somebody help?

[majjy_rane]

3 G pots is my max size,you can grow trees in them.Root bound isnt such a bad thing,they drink fast and respond equally as fast so you get a good read on them.

thats interesting, because my goal was to put 36 plants in this tent like this guy

unfortunately its in german.... but this was my main idea behind all this questions btw what are your thoughts about this growing style?

 

[Kassiopeija]

however the funny thing about this q-board is that i still get around ~750 ppfd at a distance of about 20" by 100w. awesome, right?

yes, cool but how much distance do you need to have this number over a canopy of 1^2?

 

[majjy_rane]

yes, cool but how much distance do you need to have this number over a canopy of 1^2?

well the light is now about 18" from the canopy (~790ppfd) and at the edge/wall of the tent from the canopy i read ~500ppfd

 

[Kassiopeija]

unfortunately its in german....

I can understand this guy let me just watch it^^

btw what are your thoughts about this growing style?

I didn't watch the video but that must be called SoG 6 rows at each 6 pots.

I know this like this:
You start from seed 12/12 which reduced electricity bill and plant height, and also invokes an early flower. Can be done in 11 weeks time from start to harvest, is exceptionally well suited for LED stripe setup because the smaller plant height which calls for en evenly distributed light all over the canopy.
You can use topping + a net to get more smaller colas or huge nugs when supercropping/ backbuilding on the main cola.
This way of growing can beat any other way of indoor growing in terms of grams per watt but you have alot of work to do, fiddling around with lots of pots (think about automation here like autopot, blumat, dripfeed on selfmade organic supersoil so fert is only needed in exception) and you have alot of cost for seeds. Usually guys who make their own seed or who want to grow alot of different strains to go phenohunting or whatever do that.

Ofc can be done with mothers & clones -here 18/6 veg- which grow so much more bushy so you don't necessarily need plant manipulation techniques but this will negatively affect your harvest, decreasing it but not by much.

 

[majjy_rane]

Ofc can be done with mothers & clones -here 18/6 veg- which grow so much more bushy so you don't necessarily need plant manipulation techniques but this will negatively affect your harvest, decreasing it but not by much.

lets say i wanna do this with clones, (just transplanted them into their final pot) how long do i have to let them in veg, counting from that time?

 

[Kassiopeija]

well the light is now about 18" from the canopy (~790ppfd) and at the edge/wall of the tent from the canopy i read ~500ppfd

I think if you aim for 30°C and you'll get a good g per w ratio.

lets say i wanna do this with clones, (just transplanted them into their final pot) how long do i have to let them in veg, counting from that time?

until they reach their target height, well how fast your plants are going to grow in vegetative stage is dependant on alot of factors, but approx. 3 weeks after new roots got formed or when you firstly transplant a well-rooted ball to a bigger sized pot, my cannabis grows 5cm to 10cm a day indoors (I've seen this under 300W LED.)
It also depends alot on the flowering stretch because you try to hit a target height at the end of the stretch which must be in relation to the strength of your light so you don't grow too many popcorn buds. I usually always fill up my tent until you have one flat field of green then turn to flower and put short indica-phenotypes in the middle close to the light and let the sativa-dominant strains overtake the sides so luminosity comes closer together.

but I don't limit my plants with light so I think you should initiate flower perhaps sooner and enjoy a bit more space for yourself to work in the tent. Have you thought about 4 smaller LED lamps in each corner?

 

[majjy_rane]

I think if you aim for 30°C and you'll get a good g per w ratio.


until they reach their target height, well how fast your plants are going to grow in vegetative stage is dependant on alot of factors, but approx. 3 weeks after new roots got formed or when you firstly transplant a well-rooted ball to a bigger sized pot, my cannabis grows 5cm to 10cm a day indoors (I've seen this under 300W LED.)
It also depends alot on the flowering stretch because you try to hit a target height at the end of the stretch which must be in relation to the strength of your light so you don't grow too many popcorn buds. I usually always fill up my tent until you have one flat field of green then turn to flower and put short indica-phenotypes in the middle close to the light and let the sativa-dominant strains overtake the sides so luminosity comes closer together.

but I don't limit my plants with light so I think you should initiate flower perhaps sooner and enjoy a bit more space for yourself to work in the tent. Have you thought about 4 smaller LED lamps in each corner?

thats interesting. so actually i can flip the clones straight after regenerating and transplanting into flower? after this grow i'll try this SoG, lets see what happens

like normal 4500k led bulbs from the hardware store or grow leds?

 

[Kassiopeija]

thats interesting. so actually i can flip the clones straight after regenerating and transplanting into flower?

Yes, the plant is already mature. You can see this from the way new branches grow from the stem - e.g. only one per node but alternating.
Ofc you want to do everything to promote root growth here - using airpots or these fabric bags *** (I think you already have those but I'm lacking the right word here sorry... ) and later transplant in a plastic container as closed as possible to give water less chance to evaporate, get humidity low for the flowering stage.

like normal 4500k led bulbs from the hardware store or grow leds?

the normal will do but I would take a look at its data sheet in order to check on its output in the graph. I think all fullspectrum LEDs will work, but you could add a different light than your mainlight, for example more bluish to counter the stretch or more reddish to support the buds fatten up in mid-to-late flower. Have you already brought this strain into flower and saw how it behaves? Then you could make this a suitable choice.

edit:
*** root pouches was the word I was looking for... after smoking some bong it was there again, magically XD

 

[majjy_rane]

Yes, the plant is already mature. You can see this from the way new branches grow from the stem - e.g. only one per node but alternating.
Ofc you want to do everything to promote root growth here - using airpots or these fabric bags *** (I think you already have those but I'm lacking the right word here sorry... ) and later transplant in a plastic container as closed as possible to give water less chance to evaporate, get humidity low for the flowering stage.

well i wasn't actually talking about this grow right now but thanks

the normal will do but I would take a look at its data sheet in order to check on its output in the graph. I think all fullspectrum LEDs will work, but you could add a different light than your mainlight, for example more bluish to counter the stretch or more reddish to support the buds fatten up in mid-to-late flower. Have you already brought this strain into flower and saw how it behaves? Then you could make this a suitable choice.

edit:
*** root pouches was the word I was looking for... after smoking some bong it was there again, magically XD

do you think cheap led strips would do the trick aswell, like setting them vertically up at the corner bars?
no i only had literally one seed to start all of this and this is my first grow with green crack.
you lucky son of a gun. i'm dry since my mother plant popped out 3 months ago and waiting for these girls to get finish...

 

[Kassiopeija]

do you think cheap led strips would do the trick aswell, like setting them vertically up at the corner bars?

Yes, and this may be even better because your bringing light into the lower regions as well Especially if your having somewhat bigger plants.

you lucky son of a gun. i'm dry since my mother plant popped out 3 months ago and waiting for these girls to get finish...

this made me smile just wait until the first round comes home
after the 2nd grow you realize you'll never be without again...

no i only had literally one seed to start all of this and this is my first grow with green crack.

order a mixed bag of reg seeds and do the 36 plant SoG to filter for a suitable strong motherplant. there are many factors to be considered. You'll see differences in these plants, like them or not. And naturally you'll have your No.1 - your best plant. Great smell, sticky, penetrating, easy to grow, budsize early budding, stress-tolerating strong plant, good smoke good stuff.
You'll benefit greatly from selection and bringing different genetics at home.

 

[majjy_rane]

this made me smile just wait until the first round comes home
after the 2nd grow you realize you'll never be without again...

and that right there, sir, is what keeps me damn motivated about all of this! i can't wait to get to this point!!!

order a mixed bag of reg seeds and do the 36 plant SoG to filter for a suitable strong motherplant. there are many factors to be considered. You'll see differences in these plants, like them or not. And naturally you'll have your No.1 - your best plant. Great smell, sticky, penetrating, easy to grow, budsize early budding, stress-tolerating strong plant, good smoke good stuff.
You'll benefit greatly from selection and bringing different genetics at home.

yea i deffinetely will go to that in the future. thanks! happy