Maximising yield in a commercial grow

[Renfro]

Personally I think that to get that one rare plant you have to shotgun at least 100 beans. The more tickets the better chance of hitting the winning number.

 

[Renfro]

Ill give you an example from my past. Shiva. I had 10 beans. Popped them all. 2 were male. 8 were female and produced high quality flower that you couldn't tell apart so I kept the two that had the biggest buds (all plants were the same size going into flower). Ran those two for about a year and noted that one rooted faster than the other so I narrowed it down to that one. Ran the fuck outta that strain for over 7 years in multiple grows, made a fortune.

 

[Manzanilla]

Ill give you an example from my past. Shiva. I had 10 beans. Popped them all. 2 were male. 8 were female and produced high quality flower that you couldn't tell apart so I kept the two that had the biggest buds (all plants were the same size going into flower). Ran those two for about a year and noted that one rooted faster than the other so I narrowed it down to that one. Ran the fuck outta that strain for over 7 years in multiple grows, made a fortune.

Are you saying that you cloned from one single plant for 7 years? Or did you clone from clones from the one original plant? And if so did you see any difference in the strain after a few years or was everything as the first set?

 

[Renfro]

Are you saying that you cloned from one single plant for 7 years? Or did you clone from clones from the one original plant? And if so did you see any difference in the strain after a few years or was everything as the first set?

Clone from clones, no degradation, moms kept for about a year each time.

 

[Renfro]

The whole genetic degradation is a myth. You can clone from clones.

 

[Manzanilla]

Thank you and noted!

 

[Renfro]

LEts examine the genetic drift theory.

You cut 100 clones. If a mutation happens would it happen to all of them? Would the mutation likely be severe and cause unhealthy plant thats just not viable? Lots of questions there. I don't see it as being an issue.

 

[Manzanilla]

I started planting only this year so I’m very new to this but I also started cloning from clones and didn’t see any difference in the strain but as I said first I only started this year. Had a big problem with my electrical setup and now have to start over from scratch with seeds as all my plants had to go outdoors for a few weeks while I sorted my electrical problem and now all are almost finished flowering but looking lovely!

 

[Manzanilla]

LEts examine the genetic drift theory.

You cut 100 clones. If a mutation happens would it happen to all of them? Would the mutation likely be severe and cause unhealthy plant thats just not viable? Lots of questions there. I don't see it as being an issue.

Any questionable looking plants I got, I dumped! No wasting time!

 

[Renfro]

didn’t see any difference in the strain

phenotype

 

[Renfro]

Think of a strain as children from the same parents. Think of a phenotype as an individual child from those parents.

 

[Manzanilla]

Thanks for the correction and education. Everyday I learn something new.

 

[SamWE19]

I planted 110 beans so hopefully I have a good gene pool. Automatically culled 20.

I started then off in a bottom watered seedling tray and left them for 2 weeks whilst I sorted other things. Fed no nutes for those 2 weeks.

I culled the 20 which didn’t look healthy, had the smallest amount of growth or some deformed leaves.


That’s left me with 90 in my dwc system now. They all starting to pick up now since they have a decent feed

 

[SamWE19]

Are RQS good genetics in the grand scheme of things? These 90 are their royal gorilla supposed to be their breed of gorilla glue

 

[f series]

I've never grown rqs, I can't see myself getting their seeds ever tbh

 

[f series]

Unless George from the vault wants to share

 

[SamWE19]

I've never grown rqs, I can't see myself getting their seeds ever tbh

Mind sharing why you wouldn’t? Also what breeders would you recommend then?

 

[f series]

Mind sharing why you wouldn’t? Also what breeders would you recommend then?

I don't know shit, not gonna act, sorry.
I've had great results with seedsman, sweet seeds, and Barneys.
I'm sure others haven't

 

[Frank Nitty]

Personally I think that to get that one rare plant you have to shotgun at least 100 beans. The more tickets the better chance of hitting the winning number.

I like that analogy...

 

[SamWE19]

Think of a strain as children from the same parents. Think of a phenotype as an individual child from those parents.

If I grow these 90 royal gorillas as single colas do you think I will cause any issues with pheno selection?

Im look for a strain that prefers to grow single colas, huge colas, strong smell, high thc, good flavour. I assume what we’re all looking for!

I’m just curious if I should move them to my vert system and let them grow naturally to pheno select or grow them as I would in a 4/sqft sog