Best method cloning

PadawanWarrior

PadawanWarrior

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Renfro said:
No need to worry about pH until you have roots.

I have used tap water and RO water, both worked fine. I like to use rapid rooters with a dome and some cloning gel. Vitagrow antiwilt isnt required but it's nice when you have low humidity. A seedling heat mat will speed up rooting.

No nutes until you have roots, you want to encourage the plant to make roots so just plain water.
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I like to use the Root Riots, but I think they're the same as Rapid Rooters. I also like to just put them straight into soil sometimes, so I do both. I've been using Clonex gel, but am going to try organic honey next time. I tried aloe, but it seemed to take a little longer to root than the gel. And ya the heat mat helps a lot, especially if it's cooler like it gets here.
 
TintEastwood

TintEastwood

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Vonkins said:
I've been weighing my cubes for the longest. What would u consider the ideal weight of a moist rockwool cube
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About 78grams for the sushi wrapped units. Wrapper removed after soaking, before weighing.
***Correction - these are what I'm using. So many different "models" of cubes....
2 x 2 x 1 1/2

Amazon.com : GRODAN DELTA MINI BLOCK STRIP ROCKWOOL STONEWOOL HYDROPONIC GROW MEDIA CUBE PLUG + TWIN CANARIES CHART - 12 PIECES 2" x 2" x 1.5 inch : Garden & Outdoor

Amazon.com : GRODAN DELTA MINI BLOCK STRIP ROCKWOOL STONEWOOL HYDROPONIC GROW MEDIA CUBE PLUG + TWIN CANARIES CHART - 12 PIECES 2" x 2" x 1.5 inch : Garden & Outdoor
www.amazon.com



I started these last week. Still misting dome only.
Temps in the 70's during 6hrs lights out, so I suspect these will be slower to root.
Ideally in the 80's 24/7.
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Vonkins

Vonkins

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How do I prevent the white mold on clone stems. I also get this golden looking mold on the leaves. I keep my dome completely closed for 3 days then open halfway until day 5, then open all the way. I think too much humidity is the blame. I'm questioning whether my heat mat is helping or hurting. Set to 79 degrees. I noticed my clones would all mostly root fast if I could keep the dome with minimal moisture all the time. If I noticed too much moisture I would take a paper towel and dry the dome out. Seems this helped. But now I'm hit and miss big time
 
Vonkins

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coreywebster said:
There must be 50 ways to clone. They all work. Some are quicker and that matters to some folks.

This is my method.

propagator tray, no lid, seed cell. Perlite in every other cell. 1/2-1 inch of water in tray.
Insert clone,wait.

A couple of advantages are stems don't rot even if clones take weeks due to the nature of perlite which wicks water to the stem but at the same time allows plenty of o2.
No need to spray at all.
zero wilting.
No pm or mould issues due to lack of dome.
Its cheap
You can wash off the perlite when rooted if you like and transplant to most other mediums, though rockwool might take a bit more effort to transplant into.

I don't use a heat mat due to moderate climate but root zone temp is key to quicker roots.

A lot of folks fall down when using domes due to having too high humidity, they need to have a reason to root and having high rh makes them lazy.
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Do u push the clone all the way down to the bottom of tray so that the bottom half inch or so is submerged
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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i've been using straight coco, with a little clonex gel. water them every other day with tap water till you see some of the leaves fading, then start watering them with the same feed i feed all my veg plants. i put them on the floor of my flower room, where the light is about half strength, under the canopy. when i can see a few roots in the drain holes, i move them up closer to the light. have a 90%+ success rate
 
Vonkins

Vonkins

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TintEastwood said:
About 78grams for the sushi wrapped units. Wrapper removed after soaking, before weighing.
***Correction - these are what I'm using. So many different "models" of cubes....
2 x 2 x 1 1/2

Amazon.com : GRODAN DELTA MINI BLOCK STRIP ROCKWOOL STONEWOOL HYDROPONIC GROW MEDIA CUBE PLUG + TWIN CANARIES CHART - 12 PIECES 2" x 2" x 1.5 inch : Garden & Outdoor

Amazon.com : GRODAN DELTA MINI BLOCK STRIP ROCKWOOL STONEWOOL HYDROPONIC GROW MEDIA CUBE PLUG + TWIN CANARIES CHART - 12 PIECES 2" x 2" x 1.5 inch : Garden & Outdoor
www.amazon.com



I started these last week. Still misting dome only.
Temps in the 70's during 6hrs lights out, so I suspect these will be slower to root.
Ideally in the 80's 24/7.
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So your saying the 6 cubes weigh a total of 78 grams. That's 13 grams a pc moist. Plus ur using a larger cube so urs will weigh slightly heavier. So I can assume an 1.5" cube should weigh 10 to 12 grams when at the proper moisture level. That's not much moisture in a cube. So u definitely have to mist the dome to keep the cubes from drying out to fast correct!?
 
Vonkins

Vonkins

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xtsho said:
I just put them in 100% coco after dipping in a cloning product. That Shultz powder you can get at the big box stores works just fine. Keep them in low light for awhile and get roots in 7 - 10 days. Been doing it that way for years. It's simple but it works. I clone other plants the same way with great success. Once I started treating cannabis like a plant and not some special entity that needed a bunch of attention it's been smooth sailing except for the rare setback here and there.
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No dome?
 
TintEastwood

TintEastwood

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Vonkins said:
So your saying the 6 cubes weigh a total of 78 grams. That's 13 grams a pc moist. Plus ur using a larger cube so urs will weigh slightly heavier. So I can assume an 1.5" cube should weigh 10 to 12 grams when at the proper moisture level. That's not much moisture in a cube. So u definitely have to mist the dome to keep the cubes from drying out to fast correct!?
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Each cube, 78 grams. Rather wet.

I never mist the plants, only dome. If high enuff humidity in room, no need for dome.
Keep dome misted. Vents closed.
Keeping cubes 80f is ideal - 100% humidity
Completely wipe clean and dry dome every other day.

Coco Tree's

Looks like we have a winner here. Nice job Don. For anyone hating, you can tell this guy is an experienced grower not soley by the size of the grows, but the techniques he has described. As well as trials he has performed to see what works best. This all comes with experience, if you have it...
www.icmag.com
 
Vonkins

Vonkins

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TintEastwood said:
Each cube, 78 grams. Rather wet.

I never mist the plants, only dome. If high enuff humidity in room, no need for dome.
Keep dome misted. Vents closed.
Keeping cubes 80f is ideal - 100% humidity
Completely wipe clean and dry dome every other day.

Coco Tree's

Looks like we have a winner here. Nice job Don. For anyone hating, you can tell this guy is an experienced grower not soley by the size of the grows, but the techniques he has described. As well as trials he has performed to see what works best. This all comes with experience, if you have it...
www.icmag.com
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So with ur cubes that wet and a temp of 80 your dome should stay pretty saturated correct. No need for misting right?
 
Vonkins

Vonkins

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I think the one thing that's causing me a problem is the heat mat. My room is 75 degrees up until lights off. My heat mat was set to 80. Maybe that was too hot creating to much humidity. My problem has been that damn white and gold mold
 
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DaFreak

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Vonkins said:
Can someone explain why these clones and rockwool can sit in the water without rotting. The rockwool is a saturated as possible. I dont get it.
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Very healthy mothers and cuts that don't require a long time would be my guess. If it took too long he would run into trouble.
 
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