Can’t seem to get out of seedling stage second grow

graug187

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everyone says it’s a ph problem but i always adjust my water to 6.5 .... first 6 not in solo cups are over 2months old kept yellowing n drying up couldn’t throw them out started new batch and the same thing could there be a some disease in my tent spreading from the original 6 I started. growing in promix soil with mycorrhizae had no problems first grow 1000w full spectrum led....post pics soon
 

SheeshM

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What's your goal with all those small containers? Are you trying to keep all those plants in solo cups until harvest? With your light, I'd start a few seedlings, pick the best two and learn to grow those through all the phases. A couple of things to help: Don't grow seedlings in a Solo cup with medium half way full ( saw a couple); make sure you cut good drainage holes in the cups; no nutrients early on and don't overwater; transplant to 3 gal or 5 gal containers. Good Luck!
 

graug187

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my goal originally was to have the 6 feminized but they weren’t growing I do have another tent for flower with a 1000 w hps...so I started those solo cups they not feminized so I started many to weed out males ....I also have a spare 1000 w led I could add but gets hot would that help?
 

Powertech

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my goal originally was to have the 6 feminized but they weren’t growing I do have another tent for flower with a 1000 w hps...so I started those solo cups they not feminized so I started many to weed out males ....I also have a spare 1000 w led I could add but gets hot would that help?
No, you don’t want a butt load of light in the beginning
 

Kushash

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everyone says it’s a ph problem but i always adjust my water to 6.5 .... first 6 not in solo cups are over 2months old kept yellowing n drying up couldn’t throw them out started new batch and the same thing could there be a some disease in my tent spreading from the original 6 I started. growing in promix soil with mycorrhizae had no problems first grow 1000w full spectrum led....post pics soon
Did you veg with the same light last time?
Did you leave them in solo cups this long last time or did you transplant sooner?
What did you change after your 1st grow that had no problems?
 

graug187

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What's your goal with all those small containers? Are you trying to keep all those plants in solo cups until harvest? With your light, I'd start a few seedlings, pick the best two and learn to grow those through all the phases. A couple of things to help: Don't grow seedlings in a Solo cup with medium half way full ( saw a couple); make sure you cut good drainage holes in the cups; no nutrients early on and don't overwater; transplant to 3 gal or 5 gal containers. Good Luck!
Should I replant the half filled solo cups??
 

graug187

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Did you veg with the same light last time?
Did you leave them in solo cups this long last time or did you transplant sooner?
What did you change after your 1st grow that had no problems?
Only difference is the seeds were only random seeds from my smoke now that I bought good seeds from i49 comes the problems the Solo cups are 3 week smaller ones a week started these cause the other ones were dying n I just couldn’t trash them
 

Kushash

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Only difference is the seeds were only random seeds from my smoke now that I bought good seeds from i49 comes the problems the Solo cups are 3 week smaller ones a week started these cause the other ones were dying n I just couldn’t trash them
IDK what the issue is.
Powertech is correct that seedlings don't need a lot of light when they 1st pop but half of your plants are not seedlings they are just really small older plants.
When I see small older plants like that with very small leaves the 1st thought is that they are not receiving enough light after the seedling stage but if you used the same light last time the same way and they grew normal then IDK.
Hopefully the new seedings do better, as someone mentioned it's better to fill the solo cups.
 

graug187

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IDK what the issue is.
Powertech is correct that seedlings don't need a lot of light when they 1st pop but half of your plants are not seedlings they are just really small older plants.
When I see small older plants like that with very small leaves the 1st thought is that they are not receiving enough light after the seedling stage but if you used the same light last time the same way and they grew normal then IDK.
Hopefully the new seedings do better, as someone mentioned it's better to fill the solo cups.
Ok was trying to leave room for a lil stretch thanks....should I replant those or too early?
 

thenotsoesoteric

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I'd say over watering is your biggest issue. Those pots look saturated and your plants are showing the signs of lack of oxygen to the root zone. My advice is to let them dry out till they are dry and pots are much lighter weight than they are now. Then only water with plan water and in small amounts, don't drench soil when watering or when transplanting.

Not sure why you wouldn't want to start seedlings in solo cups? I like to start in small containers ie solo cups 16oz. Then up pot them in 1 gallon then into final number 3 or 5 pots.
 

graug187

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I'd say over watering is your biggest issue. Those pots look saturated and your plants are showing the signs of lack of oxygen to the root zone. My advice is to let them dry out till they are dry and pots are much lighter weight than they are now. Then only water with plan water and in small amounts, don't drench soil when watering or when transplanting.

Not sure why you wouldn't want to start seedlings in solo cups? I like to start in small containers ie solo cups 16oz. Then up pot them in 1 gallon then into final number 3 or 5 pots.
I was trying hard not to over water them I do let them dry out before watering but I may have saturated them haven’t watered these in a week still very wet kinda got used to watering flowering plants...watering till there’s run off, I honestly think this is it.....lack of oxygen causing them to stay small? These leaves are tiny compared to my first grow
 

Merlin1147

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When you are filling the cups are you packing the soil in the cup or lightly filling them? Compacting the soil reduces the air in the soil. The roots get choked off when they get down into that wet soil down low. More seedling die of drowning than drought.
 

graug187

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When you are filling the cups are you packing the soil in the cup or lightly filling them? Compacting the soil reduces the air in the soil. The roots get choked off when they get down into that wet soil down low. More seedling die of drowning than drought.
I lightly filled them it’s when I watered (saturated) them it kind packed everything down
 

Merlin1147

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I lightly filled them it’s when I watered (saturated) them it kind packed everything down
Yes roger that. I try to be very careful to try and prevent that. You can also pre wet then fill lightly. Or find a mix that is more open. Or add perlite to your mix.
 

Bernie420

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So i transplanted lightened up on the water grew a bit pretty quick now new spot on new growth.....could root rot have taken over my tent?
You have too much light with that led raise it up 4 feet off the top of the plant or get another light. Wasting money running that light also.

You only feed it plain water I assume, no mention of nutes. You are in hp promix which doesnt have any nutes in it really. So feed them do it today a veg nute about 200ppm's add microbes to this just a pinch to a gal. put a splash of juice in each pot. leave them alone.
Raw brand bloom microbes is a good brand, you dont have microbes you better get some. A kelp and humic acid wouldnt hurt a thing either.

I doubt you have root rot, microbes will take care of that if you did.
 

graug187

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You have too much light with that led raise it up 4 feet off the top of the plant or get another light. Wasting money running that light also.

You only feed it plain water I assume, no mention of nutes. You are in hp promix which doesnt have any nutes in it really. So feed them do it today a veg nute about 200ppm's add microbes to this just a pinch to a gal. put a splash of juice in each pot. leave them alone.
Raw brand bloom microbes is a good brand, you dont have microbes you better get some. A kelp and humic acid wouldnt hurt a thing either.

I doubt you have root rot, microbes will take care of that if you did.
Never even thought about the light will try that thanks..... n for nutes I’ve got the green planet 3part just wasn’t sure if they were ready for it
 
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