PokerJay83
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Do you believe Jesus existed and was real? Why do you believe or not believe? This great little tune by mason Jennings - Jesus are you real, Seems pretty objective. Great smoking song.
Jesus are you real?
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New Age United
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Great song thanks for sharing
dandyrandy
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Observe & Report
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We don't have to wonder about Mohammed, he was definitely real. Also real people were Joseph Smith, L. Ron Hubbard, Jim Jones, and Sai Baba - both times!
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Jews believe he was real, but they also believe he was a con artis and his mother a whore.
Lord Bonkey
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yup hes real, and God
PokerJay83
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I have found evidence in Jewish Antiquity via Josephus Flavious that he may have existed. The life of Paul is way documented as well. The thing that bothers me is that it’s the same story as the Egyptian Horus. 12 apostles 3 day resurrection and all.
Lord Bonkey
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imagine unironically believing zeitgeist and freemasons in general
embarassing
PokerJay83
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can you expand on that?
Lord Bonkey
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I can but it kind of depends on what you know already
are you familiar with theosophy and masonry?
or European history since the 1492 expulsion?
I cant post links, but google memoirs illustrating the history of jacobinism
that book has 4 volumes, might be a good place to start to get an idea about the 500 year old war going on
if you want to see it in vivid colour
google the amazon synod
are you familiar with theosophy and masonry?
or European history since the 1492 expulsion?
I cant post links, but google memoirs illustrating the history of jacobinism
that book has 4 volumes, might be a good place to start to get an idea about the 500 year old war going on
if you want to see it in vivid colour
google the amazon synod
PokerJay83
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I am vaguely aware of the history of masonry and its attachment to Babylon and ancient Egypt but I don't know those phrases you speak of. will look into it. can you post the link?
gwheels
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It was probably in Hebrew...because English wasn't spoken in that part of the world.
So the J has no bearing.
Lord Bonkey
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I cant post links yet unfortunately
masonry is more kabbalah than it is pythagorean, but you will learn all that over the next year or two, welcome to the battle
Dalek Supreme
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New Testament Narrative as Old Testament Midrash
http://www.robertmprice.mindvendor.com/art_midrash1.htm
Why the Gospels are Myth
http://www.robertmprice.mindvendor.com/art_midrash1.htm
Why the Gospels are Myth
Dalek Supreme
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The Josephus Testimonium: Let’s Just Admit It’s Fake Already
https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/7437
Josephus and Jesus: The Testimonium Flavianum Question
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/testimonium.html
How Did Christianity Switch to a Historical Jesus?
https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/13425
The Historicity of Paul the Apostle
https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/7643
Desperately Searching the Epistles for Anything That Attests a Historical Jesus
https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/12220
Acts as Historical Fiction
Was Christianity Too Improbable to be False?
https://infidels.org/library/modern/richard_carrier/improbable/index.html
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dandyrandy
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When you get sick do you go to the doctor?
Faith fail...
Faith fail...