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swedsteven

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Un tribunal invalide l'interdiction de la culture du cannabis à domicile au Québec


Des plants de cannabis pourront être cultivés à la maison au Québec, après un jugement de la Cour supérieure.

PHOTO : LA PRESSE CANADIENNE / RYAN REMIORZ

Radio-Canada
2019-09-03 | Mis à jour aujourd’hui à 0 h 26
La Cour supérieure du Québec invalide les deux articles de la loi provinciale qui interdisaient la culture de cannabis à domicile à des fins personnelles.

La juge Manon Lavoie donne raison à Janick Murray Hall, qui contestait devant les tribunaux la loi québécoise plus restrictive que la réglementation fédérale.

Le résident de Québec faisait valoir que la province ne pouvait pas interdire la culture à domicile, puisque la loi fédérale permet de faire pousser jusqu'à quatre plants à la maison. Au Québec, la possession d’une plante et sa culture était plutôt proscrite par la loi.

Selon la juge Manon Lavoie, les articles 5 et 10 de la Loi encadrant le cannabis au Québec, adoptée avant sa légalisation en octobre 2018, contreviennent au champ de compétence fédérale en matière criminelle.

Les articles contestés ne viennent pas restreindre [...], mais posent une interdiction totale, écrit Manon Lavoie, ce qui laisse entendre, selon elle, que la province cherche en réalité à pallier l’abrogation des anciennes dispositions rendant la culture personnelle et la possession de plante de cannabis criminelles.

En d'autres mots, le Québec ne vient pas compléter la loi fédérale, mais empiète de façon importante sur les articles 8 et 10 de la réglementation adoptée par Ottawa.

Le Tribunal est donc d'avis que les dispositions en cause ont été adoptées afin de réprimer la production personnelle de cannabis, et ce, afin de restreindre l'accessibilité à ce produit et de renforcer son contrôle, poursuit la juge Lavoie.

Or, les provinces ne peuvent pas réécrire à leur guise les lois adoptées au niveau fédéral, explique Line Beauchesne, professeure de criminologie à l'Université d'Ottawa.

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Une application immédiate
L'invalidation des deux articles de la loi québécoise permet donc à partir de maintenant, et jusqu'à nouvel ordre, la culture de cannabis à domicile à des fins personnelles, selon la professeure Beauchesne.

L'avocat qui a mené le dossier, Julien Fortier, souligne toutefois qu'il ne faut pas s'emballer trop vite, puisque les avocats du gouvernement du Québec peuvent en appeler et demander que la loi demeure valide pendant l'appel.

Mais le gouvernement Legault n'a pas encore montré son jeu. Nous prenons acte du jugement rendu ce matin concernant la culture du cannabis à domicile, a fait savoir le cabinet de la ministre de la Justice, Sonia LeBel, dans une déclaration transmise à Radio-Canada. Nous prendrons le temps de l’analyser avant de commenter davantage le dossier.

Pascal Bérubé, chef intérimaire du Parti québécois, estime pour sa part que la décision de la Cour supérieure démontre encore une fois que le Québec ne peut pas décider seul. Il y voit un test pour le gouvernement Legault.

Que prévoit la loi?
Canada

Il est interdit à tout individu d’avoir en sa possession plus de quatre plants de cannabis qui ne sont pas en train de bourgeonner ou de fleurir.

Québec

Il était interdit, jusqu'au jugement de mardi, de posséder un plant de cannabis et de cultiver du cannabis à des fins personnelles.

Le Manitoba est la seule autre province canadienne à interdire la culture du cannabis à domicile.

La loi québécoise sur le cannabis a été pilotée par le gouvernement libéral, avant l’arrivée au pouvoir de la Coalition avenir Québec.

Tout en maintenant le cap de l'interdiction, l'ancienne ministre responsable du dossier à l'époque, Lucie Charlebois, n'avait pas écarté la possibilité de modifier la loi « à moyen terme » pour permettre la culture à domicile.

Pour sa part, le gouvernement caquiste souhaite plutôt renforcer la loi en rehaussant de 18 à 21 ans l'âge légal pour consommer la substance.

Le ministre délégué à la Santé et aux Services sociaux, Lionel Carmant, a toutefois renoncé, dans son projet de loi, à interdire la consommation dans des lieux publics.

Une fois adopté, le projet de loi ferait du Québec la province avec les règles sur la vente du cannabis les plus strictes du pays.

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swedsteven

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Yes but most off quebec people speak and read both english and french .

Mostly wath they are saying is that we are now allowed to grow 4 plant in quebec .

When canada said that we were ok to grow 4 plant per house the province off quebec said no not us so the case when to court and now we are good we win we are able to grow 4 plant

Let get ready to harvest those monster !
 

swedsteven

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Court invalidates ban on home-grown cannabis in Quebec


Cannabis plants can be grown at home in Quebec following a Superior Court ruling.

PHOTO: CANADIAN PRESS / RYAN REMIORZ

Radio-Canada
2019-09-03 | Updated today at 00:26 AM
The Quebec Superior Court invalidates the two sections of the provincial law that prohibit the cultivation of cannabis at home for personal purposes.

Judge Manon Lavoie agrees with Janick Murray Hall, who challenged Quebec's more restrictive law in the courts than federal regulation.

The Quebec resident argued that the province could not ban homegrowing because the federal law allows up to four plants to grow at home. In Quebec, the possession of a plant and its culture was rather proscribed by law.

According to Justice Manon Lavoie, sections 5 and 10 of the Cannabis Act in Quebec, passed prior to its legalization in October 2018, contravene the federal jurisdiction over criminal matters.

The disputed articles do not restrict [...], but impose a total ban, writes Manon Lavoie, which suggests, according to her, that the province is actually seeking to overcome the repeal of the old provisions making the culture personal and the possession of criminal cannabis plant.

In other words, Quebec does not complement the federal law, but significantly encroaches on sections 8 and 10 of the regulations adopted by Ottawa.

The Tribunal is therefore of the opinion that the provisions in question were adopted in order to repress the personal production of cannabis, in order to restrict the accessibility of this product and to strengthen its control, continues Justice Lavoie.

Provinces can not rewrite federal laws as they see fit, says Professor Beauchesne, a professor of criminology at the University of Ottawa.

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Immediate application
The invalidation of the two articles of the Quebec law therefore allows from now on, and until further notice, the cultivation of cannabis at home for personal purposes, according to Professor Beauchesne.

The lawyer who led the case, Julien Fortier, however, stressed that we should not rush too fast, since the Quebec government lawyers can appeal and ask that the law remains valid during the call.

But the Legault government has yet to show its game. We take note of the ruling this morning on growing cannabis at home, Justice Minister Sonia LeBel said in a statement to Radio -Canada. We will take the time to analyze it before commenting further on the file.

Pascal Bérubé, interim leader of the Parti Québécois, believes that the decision of the Superior Court shows once again that Quebec can not decide alone. He sees it as a test for the Legault government.

What does the law provide?
Canada No person

shall possess more than four cannabis plants that are not budding or flowering.

Quebec

It was forbidden, until Tuesday's judgment, to own a cannabis plant and cultivate cannabis for personal use.

Manitoba is the only other province in Canada to ban cannabis at home .

The Quebec law on cannabis was piloted by the Liberal government, before the coming into power of the Coalition avenir Québec.

While maintaining the course of the ban, the former minister responsible for the case at the time, Lucie Charlebois, had not ruled out the possibility of amending the law "medium term" to allow homegrowing .

For its part, the Caquist government wants to strengthen the lawraising the age of 18 to 21 to consume the substance .

The Minister for Health and Social Services, Lionel Carmant, however, in his bill, waived the prohibition of consumption in public places.

Once passed, the bill would make Quebec the province with the strictest rules on the sale of cannabis in the country.

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Rider101

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And then there was one! Manitoba is now the only province that still bans home grown. Since the Quebec court ruled that it is a matter of paramountcy:

The doctrine of federal legislative paramountcy dictates that where there is an inconsistency between validly enacted but overlapping provincial and federal legislation, the provincial legislation is inoperative to the extent of the inconsistency....

In other words the fed law overrides the provincial one.

Manitoba courts will have to follow suit when a case is brought before it.
 

Egzoset

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Salutations,

Maybe it's too late for Manitoba considering all provinces may fall into the conservative realm of Andrew Scheer just in time to please bigot anti-cannabis prohibitionists next Christmass anyway...

As for prevalence, lets just repeat this historical fact: Québec's Pharmacy Act was printed in 1890 and approved by the British Empire in conformity to Canada's confederation of 1867... The existance of such provincial jurisdiction was actually recognized in Ottawa's parliament on April 23rd, 1923, when Henri-Sévérin Béland performed the unilateral transfer or a provincial jurisdiction while failing to correct the misleading status of "indian Hemp" as "Poison" besides arsenic and cyanure (take note he was a doctor on top of a Liberal). Etc., etc. Remove cannabis from UN's international treaties + "Schedule" then the whole construction shall crumble into oblivion and then it's the provinces that shall assume control again, this time via their respective agriculture ministers, which just won't happen as there's never been a iota of science + proportionality in this case (with CBD bound to be declared "novel Frankenstein food" soon): it's all eminently political and grounded in Victorian-age attitudes IMO. The day true justice finally reflects in our laws then alcohol monopolies confirmed after a recent famous "Free-the-Beer" case shall respect the wording and intent of Canada's founding 1867 confederation as well. Too bad politicians are experts of predatory cheats and so on that nothing can stop in absence of due accountability.

Good day, have fun!! :peace:
 

Rider101

Well-Known Member
https://winnipeg.ctvnews.ca/manitobans-may-be-a-step-closer-to-growing-marijuana-plants-1.4578551

Manitobans may be a step closer to growing marijuana plants

Last Updated Thursday, September 5, 2019 10:49AM CST
Manitobans may be a step closer to growing their own recreational marijuana plants.

A Quebec court ruled Tuesday a ban on possessing and growing pot plants for personal use is unconstitutional because Quebec's legislation infringed on the jurisdiction of the federal government, which has sole responsibility on criminal matters.

The decision means it's now legal to grow cannabis plants at home in Quebec, and the ruling could open the door for the law to change in Manitoba as well.

Jamie Jurczak is a partner at Taylor McCaffrey in Winnipeg, and has been following legal changes around cannabis legislation.

"Someone might say the door is open in the sense that now someone in Manitoba has seen it happen in Quebec, maybe somebody is more willing to give it a shot here, might be more willing to say ‘I’m willing to challenge it because there is a precedent in another jurisdictions that I could currently rely upon in my arguments’," Jurczak said.

However, she cautioned the change could take months, possibly years.

 

Rider101

Well-Known Member
Salutations,

Maybe it's too late for Manitoba considering all provinces may fall into the conservative realm of Andrew Scheer just in time to please bigot anti-cannabis prohibitionists next Christmass anyway...

As for prevalence, lets just repeat this historical fact: Québec's Pharmacy Act was printed in 1890 and approved by the British Empire in conformity to Canada's confederation of 1867... The existance of such provincial jurisdiction was actually recognized in Ottawa's parliament on April 23rd, 1923, when Henri-Sévérin Béland performed the unilateral transfer or a provincial jurisdiction while failing to correct the misleading status of "indian Hemp" as "Poison" besides arsenic and cyanure (take note he was a doctor on top of a Liberal). Etc., etc. Remove cannabis from UN's international treaties + "Schedule" then the whole construction shall crumble into oblivion and then it's the provinces that shall assume control again, this time via their respective agriculture ministers, which just won't happen as there's never been a iota of science + proportionality in this case (with CBD bound to be declared "novel Frankenstein food" soon): it's all eminently political and grounded in Victorian-age attitudes IMO. The day true justice finally reflects in our laws then alcohol monopolies confirmed after a recent famous "Free-the-Beer" case shall respect the wording and intent of Canada's founding 1867 confederation as well. Too bad politicians are experts of predatory cheats and so on that nothing can stop in absence of due accountability.

Good day, have fun!! :peace:
Scheer could change the cannabis act but can not change any kind of court ruling. Far too much money has been invested by Conservatives in the cannabis industry for him to touch it.
 

Egzoset

Well-Known Member
Salutations Rider101,

Yet i'm not comforted at the thought Andrew Scheer might be satisfied to promise better "medical" while vilifying "recreational" even further, m'well if it's possible to get any worse than Trudeau's Zyklon-generating "kosher" for Québekers!!

This suspense will be over in about 6 weeks but i still don't see who's standing for me in Ottawa and neither the parliament of my own province, despite some nationalist past in the party of François Legault...

Good day, have fun!! :peace:
 

Rider101

Well-Known Member
https://www.theleafnews.com/news/major-parties-pledge-to-overturn-tory-ban-on-home-cannabis-cultivation-558605802.html

Manitoba's Green, Liberal, and NDP leaders say they'd permit the legal home cultivation of cannabis, if their respective parties win the 2019 provincial election.

The incumbent Progressive Conservatives were the only one of Manitoba's four biggest political parties to decline a Free Press request to interview their leader (Brian Pallister) about cannabis policy.

Manitobans go to the polls Sept. 10.

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Too bad the PC are leading in the polls. That leaves the court case as the most likely way to overturn the ban of home growing in Manitoba.
 
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