Harvest soon, late flush

[Armyofsprout]

So I ended up getting a loupe too late and now most of my trichs on one of my lemon ice plants are milky and some are going slightly amber...maybe about 5% or less amber right now. I couldn't see the trichs so I didn't flush until a few days ago and I'm not sure if I should go another two weeks or if I should just chop in a few days. I barely fed during the grow. My FFOF mainly had enough nutes and I would top dress more soil periodically but I fed every now and then. The watering right before the flush I did do a feeding of nutes so I'm afraid of chopping with all those nutes in there. She's super frosty tho and my other strains aren't ready yet.

What do you all think?

 

[Magicole]

Give yourself 7 days at least try really just go longer because it better to have your flowers to more amber then being full of nutrients. Also by letting them go a little longer it will just be more of a body high. I would love for people to say other wise but if you pull any plant sooner it’s more of a head high and if you pull later it’s more body high. From the testing I’ve done that’s what I have learned.

 

[xtsho]

You can't flush nutrients out of flowers. Flush the toilet. Grow the plant.

 

[jdog127]

You can't flush nutrients out of flowers. Flush the toilet. Grow the plant.

Lol, Flush the toilet not the plants. Love it. Definitely using that one.

But would you say that rules applies for both organic and non organic nutrients? I'm asking strictly out of ignorance.

 

[swedsteven]

Yes just feed water 1 more week forget the heavy flush

 

[xtsho]

Lol, Flush the toilet not the plants. Love it. Definitely using that one.

But would you say that rules applies for both organic and non organic nutrients? I'm asking strictly out of ignorance.

Yes it applies to organic and synthetic nutrients. Just taper the strength back towards the end giving just plane water if in soil and 1/4 strength if hydro or coco. All flushing does is flush the growing media. It doesn't remove anything from the plant in itself. The yellowing leaves many get towards the end are from people flushing and starving their plant. It takes what it can from the leaves for the flowers. You can harvest a fully ripe plant with top notch buds and still have green leaves. I do all the time and my buds don't taste like nutrients. They taste delicious. The key is to not overfeed like so many do during the grow.

 

[jdog127]

Yes just feed water 1 more week forget the heavy flush

Thank you for the Information. Been growing for some time and I know that required flushing has been the norm for past several years and the non flushing method is relatively new to the growing community and like me, alot of us are teetering between flushing or non flushing but the non flushing community seems to be taking the stronghold in the debate.

 

[xtsho]

Thank you for the Information. Been growing for some time and I know that required flushing has been the norm for past several years and the non flushing method is relatively new to the growing community and like me, alot of us are teetering between flushing or non flushing but the non flushing community seems to be taking the stronghold in the debate.

Actually it's the other way around. Flushing is relatively new to the growing community. People have been growing for decades without flushing. It's just been in the last ten years or so with nutrient companies with their bottles of sugar water flushing solutions and putting infomercials on youtube pushing them that flushing really started to get going. All you do when you flush is starve the plant of nutrients forcing it to take them from other places on the plant to feed the flowers which is why so many people harvest plants with yellow leaves.

There really shouldn't be a debate. There is absolutely no scientific evidence that flushing does anything other than starve the plant. But realistically, where do those nutrients go when you flush? You might wash them out of the soil but not the plant. And the plant doesn't take up and hold nutrients the way many people think. Drowning your plant with a bunch of water doesn't remove nitrogen, potassium, or anything else from the plant.

 

[Armyofsprout]

You can't flush nutrients out of flowers. Flush the toilet. Grow the plant.

Dude you know what I.mean. Flush the soil so the plants use up all the nutrients already internalized within itself. You're right it doesn't remove them from the plants it removes salts from the soil from non organic growing.

I know how this works...

 

[Armyofsprout]

Yes it applies to organic and synthetic nutrients. Just taper the strength back towards the end giving just plane water if in soil and 1/4 strength if hydro or coco. All flushing does is flush the growing media. It doesn't remove anything from the plant in itself. The yellowing leaves many get towards the end are from people flushing and starving their plant. It takes what it can from the leaves for the flowers. You can harvest a fully ripe plant with top notch buds and still have green leaves. I do all the time and my buds don't taste like nutrients. They taste delicious. The key is to not overfeed like so many do during the grow.

And I'll take this advice and harvest next week. I didn't over feed at all since I barely would feed. Unless my soil was super hot then I can't control that lol. But it wasn't. No burn here.

 

[Budzbuddha]

At least two weeks ... Taper down as stated ... plant hasn’t even tapped the leaf reserves ( Fade ) and are heavily loaded . The calyx only shows true maturity AND on multiple colas not just the dominate ones. They show great rails , but there are still whitish/ green pistil growth over a large percentage ( NOT YET COLORED OR RECEDED ) ....

A simple taper OR water only til end ——- NOT FLUSH ... just simple water regimen til ripe.
Leave the flushing for chipotle burritos.

By systematically running a basic water diet to end allows the plant to BURN THRU excess that is already loading plant and medium.

Simple simple simple.

 

[jdog127]

Actually it's the other way around. Flushing is relatively new to the growing community. People have been growing for decades without flushing. It's just been in the last ten years or so with nutrient companies with their bottles of sugar water flushing solutions and putting infomercials on youtube pushing them that flushing really started to get going. All you do when you flush is starve the plant of nutrients forcing it to take them from other places on the plant to feed the flowers which is why so many people harvest plants with yellow leaves.

There really shouldn't be a debate. There is absolutely no scientific evidence that flushing does anything other than starve the plant. But realistically, where do those nutrients go when you flush? You might wash them out of the soil but not the plant. And the plant doesn't take up and hold nutrients the way many people think. Drowning your plant with a bunch of water doesn't remove nitrogen, potassium, or anything else from the plant.

That's fair. I've only been growing and consulting Internet forums for the last 10 years or so, so it only makes sense that I would be under the assumption that that would be the norm to flush Which is what I have been doing to my crops for years now.

 

[Armyofsprout]

At least two weeks ... Taper down as stated ... plant hasn’t even tapped the leaf reserves ( Fade ) and are heavily loaded . The calyx only shows true maturity AND on multiple colas not just the dominate ones. They show great rails , but there are still whitish/ green pistil growth over a large percentage ( NOT YET COLORED OR RECEDED ) ....

A simple taper OR water only til end ——- NOT FLUSH ... just simple water regimen til ripe.
Leave the flushing for chipotle burritos.

By systematically running a basic water diet to end allows the plant to BURN THRU excess that is already loading plant and medium.

Simple simple simple.

Yeah I'm doing straight water until the end. So I'll give it another week or so because it's already been a few days. By then everything should be good, it's already starting to come together nicely.

I'm about to get another tent and start perpetually growing and using SoG to maximize yield. What size pots and how many plants would you all recommend for a 2x4 tent? I was thinking of maybe 6-7 three gallon pots or 8 two gallon pots

 

[Armyofsprout]

Also do any of you hang full plants when drying? Do you all dry with the fan leaves on or off? Do you wet trim or dry trim?

 

[jdog127]

Also do any of you hang full plants when drying? Do you all dry with the fan leaves on or off? Do you wet trim or dry trim?

I hang whole plant but wet trim all large major fan leaves before hanging, and dry trim all sugar and smaller leaves after few days hang.

 

[Armyofsprout]

I hang whole plant but wet trim all large major fan leaves before hanging, and dry trim all sugar and smaller leaves after few days hang.

That's what I was thinking of doing also. Wet trimming fan leaves only. How many days do you usually dry for?

 

[xtsho]

I wet trim everything including sugar leaves, hang the big buds and put the smaller ones on screens, and put the sugar leaf trim in trays. I've dry trimmed and don't care for it. You end up dealing with the weed twice. I hate trimming so when I do it I want it done and over with. Trim, dry, jar, done. But it really doesn't matter which way you do it as long as you get it done.

 

[CanadianJim]

I hang branches usually, and I take off the fan leaves as I remove the branch from the plant. If I'm making edibles I don't bother trimming the sugar leaves, but for smoke I dry trim them.

 

[Armyofsprout]

Any idea what this looks like to you all?

 

[Armyofsprout]

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