Carson High Yield LED's

sasquatch19

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Has anybody on here ever ran these? I'm hearing pretty darn good results like 1.4-1.9 grams per watt! I've purchased 4 of the 240w fixtures to run in a 4x8. they have a lot of options though. If I like these I may try to get a bigger set of lights.

https://carsonhighyield.com/
 

whytewidow

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The design is pretty cool. But not knowing what diodes are being used. And those lenses I'd remove. Just personal preference. But I've heard of the company. Not alot of reviews. After your first run with them. Post your results.
 

DaFreak

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I'm planning on going LED in the near future but not to increase yield, to hopefully get the same yield with lower wattage and heat. I would call anybody who claims their LED is responsible for a 1.9 gpw result a lying piece of shit trying to sell shit lights, but that's just me.
 

coreywebster

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I'm planning on going LED in the near future but not to increase yield, to hopefully get the same yield with lower wattage and heat. I would call anybody who claims their LED is responsible for a 1.9 gpw result a lying piece of shit trying to sell shit lights, but that's just me.
Ive seen 2gpw banded around like its nothing and most of the time I question what the grower considers dry.
Admittedly its partly because I haven't hit those numbers personally :oops:
However I once did a modular scrog in one part of half my tent, it was 1.5x2ft screen, that half my tent was 4x4 and had 560w of good LED over it. That little screen I pulled 9.5oz dry off and that didn't include some larf I should of pruned and binned or a good 1/2-1oz of rot I had to bin. Extrapolate that up to the full 4x4 and it gets well above 2gpw.
So I do believe it very possible, though most of what I see claiming 2gpw doesn't look to be packed in enough to reach those figures.
I know that sounds a bit flakey extrapolating it :roll:
1.4gpw I have done numerous times 1.67 was my PB.

Now im in a totally different set up and once I have a few runs and chucks done I can dedicate a whole tent (more importantly be able to access it) to scrog a few plants and see how high I can push the numbers.

Obviously though the light is not single-handedly responsible , one way or another you have to fill a space well.
 

Rocket Soul

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Ive seen 2gpw banded around like its nothing and most of the time I question what the grower considers dry.
Admittedly its partly because I haven't hit those numbers personally :oops:
However I once did a modular scrog in one part of half my tent, it was 1.5x2ft screen, that half my tent was 4x4 and had 560w of good LED over it. That little screen I pulled 9.5oz dry off and that didn't include some larf I should of pruned and binned or a good 1/2-1oz of rot I had to bin. Extrapolate that up to the full 4x4 and it gets well above 2gpw.
So I do believe it very possible, though most of what I see claiming 2gpw doesn't look to be packed in enough to reach those figures.
I know that sounds a bit flakey extrapolating it :roll:
1.4gpw I have done numerous times 1.67 was my PB.

Now im in a totally different set up and once I have a few runs and chucks done I can dedicate a whole tent (more importantly be able to access it) to scrog a few plants and see how high I can push the numbers.

Obviously though the light is not single-handedly responsible , one way or another you have to fill a space well.
2/w is not that hard if you use reduced wattage andd a decent spectrum. Its quite hard though if you use +35w // square foot
 

BCBLondesLEDGrowLights

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easiest way to grade a grow light is to look at the total PPF sometimes called umol, and how much PPF/watt. This will tell you how much total light the fixture emits as well as how efficient it is.

For reference, a basic hortilux single end HPS puts off about 1300 ppf when its brand new, with a batwing reflector that drops to about 1130 and it consumes about 1060 watts with ballast. So that's about 1.22 ppf/watt and 1.06 ppf/watt with reflector.

Gavita DE is around 1615 total ppf when brand new(with built in stock reflector) and burns the same 1060 watts giving you about 1.52 ppf/watt.

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I offer 1750 total ppf with 2.6 PPF/watt efficiency
 

PSUAGRO.

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Interesting on your DE ppf/w #(light lab?) Pirg, always thought nick's sphere (OH) was low too @ 1.55 ppf/w for a slightly used gavita pro de. The stock reflector really eats it up! Vert, bare somewhat fixes that ; ), maybe, dont think anyone has tested the new "gizmo" with thick glass around the bulb yet?

The initial higher investment is still the biggest hurdle for commercial led....but times are a changing
 

whytewidow

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I'm planning on going LED in the near future but not to increase yield, to hopefully get the same yield with lower wattage and heat. I would call anybody who claims their LED is responsible for a 1.9 gpw result a lying piece of shit trying to sell shit lights, but that's just me.
I pull atleast 1.8gpw easily and I'm not trying to sell anything. Maybe you just cant grow. And you look dumb saying shit like that.
 

BCBLondesLEDGrowLights

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Interesting on your DE ppf/w #(light lab?) Pirg, always thought nick's sphere (OH) was low too @ 1.55 ppf/w for a slightly used gavita pro de. The stock reflector really eats it up! Vert, bare somewhat fixes that ; ), maybe, dont think anyone has tested the new "gizmo" with thick glass around the bulb yet?

The initial higher investment is still the biggest hurdle for commercial led....but times are a changing
Yes bare vert is the way to go with those.

its about 1850 at the 1000 setting (1060 actual watts) and 2100 at the 1150 setting (1220 actual) with a bare bulb, the reflector eats up about 13%.
 

PSUAGRO.

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Yes bare vert is the way to go with those.

its about 1850 at the 1000 setting (1060 actual watts) and 2100 at the 1150 setting (1220 actual) with a bare bulb, the reflector eats up about 13%.
Not as bad as I thought, mathzzz is not my best attribute that's for sure. Not a bad reflector in the end, seen over 20% losses.

Have you seen that glass cylinder type deal for the de vert application?, kinda cool
 

DaFreak

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I pull atleast 1.8gpw easily and I'm not trying to sell anything. Maybe you just cant grow. And you look dumb saying shit like that.
So are you saying that your light is responsible for your yield and not you? Maybe you're just full of it.
 

DaFreak

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Can you actually tell me what I said that you don't agree with? lol. nope. I guess I am just a guy who doesn't know how to grow...but made over 3 million dollars doing it. I will be happy with being a bad grower then.
 

sasquatch19

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I will be sure to document my weight after I harvest. Plants were started on between July 21st - 28th. Switched to 12/12 Sept 1st. It will be tricky actually calculating as one plant (an auto) will be ready to chop on the 23rd, roughly. From there, strains vary on harvest times. Late bloomers should be finished by Nov 9th. Minimum goal will be 3 lbs (approx 1.4 gpw) to 4 lbs (approx 1.9 gpw)

Laying it out like that, sounds like I have quite the push to make... Guess we will see come Nov.
 
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