Jefferson1977
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The warrant was requested on the basis of finding "proof of residence" to the charge of having recreational plants visible to the public. The judge absolutely is accountable for this as well.
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CalyxCrusher
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And what if he said it was visible to the public? When in fact it wasn't, it was visible to the visiting public.
Jefferson1977
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Even if it was visible to the public, that's now reason to have your house raided? That was my original question. It used to be very difficult to get a warrant to raid a house, now all you need is three legal plants visible to the public and you get a full on assault style raid? WTF!!! People should be fucking outraged. A full on assault style raid "to prove residence" for 3 visible plants.And what if he said it was visible to the public? When in fact it wasn't, it was visible to the visiting public.
again I ask....WTF!!!????
VIANARCHRIS
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I think he has a higher duty than to put blind trust into a cop.The justice must be satisfied there is sufficient likelihood that an offence has been committed and that relevant specified evidence will be found in a certain place necessitating a search warrant." If a judge is just going to agree with everything a cop tells him/her, why bother having a judge sign anything to begin with? What kind of bizarre story did the cop come up with to convince the judge that there was some sort of criminal evidence in a house due to 3 legal plants growing in a yard? Most likely, the judge never read the warrant and just rubber-stamped it. That would be dereliction of duty bordering on criminal and the cop would definitely be guilty of making false statements. Neither should have a job. IMHO.
Jefferson1977
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As mentioned in the article, the warrant was issued to "prove residence". All the cop had to say was he saw three plants visible to the public and the warrant was to "prove residence". This is truly a frightening thing IMO.
VIANARCHRIS
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The people's names would have been readily available from the organizers of the garden tour and the address on their driver's license would prove residence. There was no need for a search of anything. Reminds me of the RCMP breaking into homes and stealing guns during the flood evacuation in High River Alberta.
Rider101
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https://revelstokemountaineer.com/revelstoke-rcmp-to-provide-cannabis-search-warrant-incident-statement-on-thursday/
Revelstoke RCMP to provide cannabis search warrant incident statement on Thursday
Revelstoke police say they will be issuing a statement about their Aug. 2 search of a Farrell Road home after three cannabis plants were spotted on the property by an RCMP officer who attended the Garden & Art Tour.
By
Aaron Orlando
-
Aug 7, 2019
After two days and several phone calls and emails from the Mountaineer, Revelstoke RCMP responded Wednesday afternoon to our request to speak with a representative about the Aug. 2. search warrant on a Farrell Road home.
Cpl. Mike Esson from the RCMP Detachment called the Mountaineer to talk about the situation. He said the detachment is short staffed and he’s been busy keeping on top of the work. The two usual spokespersons for the Revelstoke detachment are not on duty; one is on vacation and the other on leave.
Anticipating standard RCMP policy to not comment on ongoing investigations, our questions focused on ongoing policy for the local detachment. For example, if an RCMP officer spots a cannabis plant from a public place, what will the RCMP response be in the future? Does the RCMP have a practical definition of what is “visible?” Has the Revelstoke RCMP executed any other search warrants for people growing four or fewer cannabis plants on their property? Does the RCMP plan further search warrants on other exhibitors on the Garden & Art Tour who may have cannabis plants in their garden?
Esson didn’t answer many of the questions directly, instead referring to the coming statement on Thursday. Local media communications with the RCMP can be strained at times, especially during significant incidents when there is high public interest. The relationship was strained by a demand by Esson at the end of the interview to not publish his statements, saying we didn’t have “permission.” After two days of requests for an interview, it was an unusual demand to make at the end of the roughly 15-minute interview.
New facts from the interview
-Esson said police deem the three seized cannabis plants to be visible from the roadway, and also visible from a public place during the garden tour because the private property was a de facto public space on that day due to the tour being a public event.
-He would not say if other search warrant applications had been filed by the Revelstoke RCMP for four or fewer plants being viewable from a public space.
-Esson said the reason the RCMP is focusing on enforcing the rules around keeping cannabis from public view was to keep cannabis away from children, who might be tempted to steal it if they can see it.
-Esson said that the situation had caused strain for the local police, saying some public reaction on social media had been “disturbing and disgusting.” He said the officer who filed the search warrant application had been targeted for his involvement. “Being searched out on social media and emails being sent. No matter what, he’s a police officer and has a job to do,” Esson said. “It is a small town, and I get that. It’s not easy for officers.”
-Esson acknowledged that the RCMP would be working on rebuilding trust, saying, “This isn’t what we intended.”
A new chapter in the story?
In correspondence with the Mountaineer, Anna Minten, the owner of the Farrell Road home that was searched on Aug. 2 said that Cpl. Esson visited her home to talk on Wednesday, Aug. 7.
Minten said Esson expressed “remorse” over what had happened, adding that based on the conversation, it didn’t appear to her that any charges would be laid or fines issued resulting from the search warrant.
Minten acknowledged that the local detachment’s reputation had taken a hit, but said she wanted to work to help them “fix their reputation.”
Will the RCMP’s Thursday statement illuminate a path forward from the incident?
Nadja Luckau, who is the chairperson of the Revelstoke Local Food Initiative society, which hosts the Garden & Art Tour, responded to the Mountaineer with a statement about the incident: “The Revelstoke Local Food Initiative’s Garden and Art Tour brings together the community by sharing local gardens and art displays and has done so for 7 years,” the statement reads. “Selected participants open their gardens to the public to share their space and knowledge about local gardening practices. At this point the LFI is seeking more information from government with regards to the Cannabis Act, so we can help to better educate the public.”
The Mountaineer has also reached out to the Ministry of Public Safety and Solicitor General’s office to seek clarity on the B.C. policy for handling cases where cannabis plants are visible from a public space. The ministry operates at an arm’s-length from the police and doesn’t publicly intervene in criminal cases, but it does set policy on policing.
Reaction
The public reaction on social media was overwhelmingly opposed to the local RCMP’s actions. In addition to the usual social media background noise of extreme views and reactions, most said police seeking a search warrant over three plants was a disproportionate response, and that taking a softer approach, such as police having an informative conversation with the homeowner, would have been a better option. Many were also critical of cannabis laws that allow for the potential for police intervention over a few plants. They said a few plants on a private property shouldn’t be a police priority and pointed to what they felt should be, such as increased traffic enforcement on the highway.
The story had significant exposure outside of Revelstoke.
-Minten was interviewed by a CBC national radio program, As It Happens, in a story that covered her experience.
-The story was featured in the Globe & Mail (paywall).
-Business in Vancouver compared the actions of the RCMP versus statements from the Minister of Public Safety and Solicitor General, Mike Farnworth, when the provincial cannabis regulations were being developed, noting that Farnworth indicated enforcement of cannabis visible from a public place would be graduated and based on complaints, starting with warnings then escalating into fines for non-compliance.
-Prominent cannabis activists like Mark Emery and Dana Larsen noted their longstanding opposition to the way the cannabis rules are written."
What a fuck up by the police! Mike Farnworth stated"enforcement of cannabis visible from a public place would be graduated and based on complaints, starting with warnings then escalating into fines for non-compliance."
These BC NDP anti cannabis laws need to go!!!
Revelstoke RCMP to provide cannabis search warrant incident statement on Thursday
Revelstoke police say they will be issuing a statement about their Aug. 2 search of a Farrell Road home after three cannabis plants were spotted on the property by an RCMP officer who attended the Garden & Art Tour.
By
Aaron Orlando
-
Aug 7, 2019
After two days and several phone calls and emails from the Mountaineer, Revelstoke RCMP responded Wednesday afternoon to our request to speak with a representative about the Aug. 2. search warrant on a Farrell Road home.
Cpl. Mike Esson from the RCMP Detachment called the Mountaineer to talk about the situation. He said the detachment is short staffed and he’s been busy keeping on top of the work. The two usual spokespersons for the Revelstoke detachment are not on duty; one is on vacation and the other on leave.
Anticipating standard RCMP policy to not comment on ongoing investigations, our questions focused on ongoing policy for the local detachment. For example, if an RCMP officer spots a cannabis plant from a public place, what will the RCMP response be in the future? Does the RCMP have a practical definition of what is “visible?” Has the Revelstoke RCMP executed any other search warrants for people growing four or fewer cannabis plants on their property? Does the RCMP plan further search warrants on other exhibitors on the Garden & Art Tour who may have cannabis plants in their garden?
Esson didn’t answer many of the questions directly, instead referring to the coming statement on Thursday. Local media communications with the RCMP can be strained at times, especially during significant incidents when there is high public interest. The relationship was strained by a demand by Esson at the end of the interview to not publish his statements, saying we didn’t have “permission.” After two days of requests for an interview, it was an unusual demand to make at the end of the roughly 15-minute interview.
New facts from the interview
-Esson said police deem the three seized cannabis plants to be visible from the roadway, and also visible from a public place during the garden tour because the private property was a de facto public space on that day due to the tour being a public event.
-He would not say if other search warrant applications had been filed by the Revelstoke RCMP for four or fewer plants being viewable from a public space.
-Esson said the reason the RCMP is focusing on enforcing the rules around keeping cannabis from public view was to keep cannabis away from children, who might be tempted to steal it if they can see it.
-Esson said that the situation had caused strain for the local police, saying some public reaction on social media had been “disturbing and disgusting.” He said the officer who filed the search warrant application had been targeted for his involvement. “Being searched out on social media and emails being sent. No matter what, he’s a police officer and has a job to do,” Esson said. “It is a small town, and I get that. It’s not easy for officers.”
-Esson acknowledged that the RCMP would be working on rebuilding trust, saying, “This isn’t what we intended.”
A new chapter in the story?
In correspondence with the Mountaineer, Anna Minten, the owner of the Farrell Road home that was searched on Aug. 2 said that Cpl. Esson visited her home to talk on Wednesday, Aug. 7.
Minten said Esson expressed “remorse” over what had happened, adding that based on the conversation, it didn’t appear to her that any charges would be laid or fines issued resulting from the search warrant.
Minten acknowledged that the local detachment’s reputation had taken a hit, but said she wanted to work to help them “fix their reputation.”
Will the RCMP’s Thursday statement illuminate a path forward from the incident?
Nadja Luckau, who is the chairperson of the Revelstoke Local Food Initiative society, which hosts the Garden & Art Tour, responded to the Mountaineer with a statement about the incident: “The Revelstoke Local Food Initiative’s Garden and Art Tour brings together the community by sharing local gardens and art displays and has done so for 7 years,” the statement reads. “Selected participants open their gardens to the public to share their space and knowledge about local gardening practices. At this point the LFI is seeking more information from government with regards to the Cannabis Act, so we can help to better educate the public.”
The Mountaineer has also reached out to the Ministry of Public Safety and Solicitor General’s office to seek clarity on the B.C. policy for handling cases where cannabis plants are visible from a public space. The ministry operates at an arm’s-length from the police and doesn’t publicly intervene in criminal cases, but it does set policy on policing.
Reaction
The public reaction on social media was overwhelmingly opposed to the local RCMP’s actions. In addition to the usual social media background noise of extreme views and reactions, most said police seeking a search warrant over three plants was a disproportionate response, and that taking a softer approach, such as police having an informative conversation with the homeowner, would have been a better option. Many were also critical of cannabis laws that allow for the potential for police intervention over a few plants. They said a few plants on a private property shouldn’t be a police priority and pointed to what they felt should be, such as increased traffic enforcement on the highway.
The story had significant exposure outside of Revelstoke.
-Minten was interviewed by a CBC national radio program, As It Happens, in a story that covered her experience.
-The story was featured in the Globe & Mail (paywall).
-Business in Vancouver compared the actions of the RCMP versus statements from the Minister of Public Safety and Solicitor General, Mike Farnworth, when the provincial cannabis regulations were being developed, noting that Farnworth indicated enforcement of cannabis visible from a public place would be graduated and based on complaints, starting with warnings then escalating into fines for non-compliance.
-Prominent cannabis activists like Mark Emery and Dana Larsen noted their longstanding opposition to the way the cannabis rules are written."
What a fuck up by the police! Mike Farnworth stated"enforcement of cannabis visible from a public place would be graduated and based on complaints, starting with warnings then escalating into fines for non-compliance."
These BC NDP anti cannabis laws need to go!!!
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Jefferson1977
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So the department is short staffed according to the office, but they can send 5 officers and 3 patrol cars to execute a raid on someone with a weed in their garden....uh huhhhh....I'd be consulting a lawyer...
VIANARCHRIS
Well-Known Member
What was "disturbing and disgusting" was the fact the a search warrant was applied for, approved and executed on law abiding citizens. He SHOULD be targeted. Make his life and that of his family so uncomfortable that he'll beg for a transfer to bum fuck nowhere to escape. A police officer's job is to protect people and solve crimes. A plant visible from the road is a ticketing offence, not a criminal one. There should never have been a request for a warrant. This cop is just an asshole and the judge who signed it is a fucking moron. Public flogging should be mandatory for assholes like that.
The Hippy
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I'd rather see him beg to escape from a flogging and a uncomfortable public bum fuck.
If it's all the same, and it isn't, but I want it anyway.
His family can watch.
Jefferson1977
Well-Known Member
The judge needs a public spanking too, else some others might think it's okay to order a no-knock raid for a misplaced weed in public view. Maybe we can send the goat over to his house to eat all the shrubbery on his perfect Burnaby lawn.
"Retired"
cannabis lawyer and consultant Kirk Tousaw also chimed in on Twitter, calling the situation “absolutely horrible.”
KirkTousawVerified account@KirkTousaw
This is absolutely horrible. They likely won’t charge her - so she won’t get to challenge the “visible from public place” restriction. They seized her plants. She could sue them for their value and/or make a policy complaint, that’s about it.
cannabis lawyer and consultant Kirk Tousaw also chimed in on Twitter, calling the situation “absolutely horrible.”
KirkTousawVerified account@KirkTousaw
This is absolutely horrible. They likely won’t charge her - so she won’t get to challenge the “visible from public place” restriction. They seized her plants. She could sue them for their value and/or make a policy complaint, that’s about it.
VIANARCHRIS
Well-Known Member
Street justice.
Jefferson1977
Well-Known Member
Goat + lawn + Burnaby + Judge + Cop