Is Trump finished?

Jimdamick

Jimdamick

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With a little over a year to go before re-election, I think Trump is fucked, finally
Combined with his trade war with China, which essentially destroyed the export aspect of the American farmer,and will kill the average American consumer with price increases, his insults to our EU partners, his destruction of the Paris Climate Accord, NAFTA and the TTP, his inept handling of conflict with N. Korea and Iran, his obvious, to all with a fucking brain, racist /religious bigotry/misogamist mindset, and his lack-luster (to be kind) if not ridiculous, response to the latest (monthly?) mass murder in the US, his political career could (should?) be over

The fucker couldn't even get the city in Ohio straight where the murders took place, confusing Toledo with Dayton (this guy has launch codes?).
His thoughts on a cause?
Video games.(Really?)
Fuckface McConnell, his sycophant , has held up legislation dealing with gun control since February, and the country knows that he and the GOP have absolutely no solutions, or interest in solving gun violence in the US.

37% of the general public (97% of Pukes) agree with this fuck's policies, and they're running the show,apparently.

What the fuck is up with that?

2020 my friends, and get Trump out of office along with every Republican rep in BOTH the House and Senate.

NOW, is the time because we as a Nation, have absolutely no time left to salvage what remains of our society, or the Planet for that matter.
 
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hotrodharley

hotrodharley

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His “close aides” confirming they’re afraid he’s not going to end the trade war before the election. So it’s okay to wreck everything for a lot of folks but pull up long enough to be re-elected. Further it’s not a secret he wants kept that he’s basically going it alone in negotiations based on his gut instincts. We all pretty much know his business record so there’s that to dread.
 
Jimdamick

Jimdamick

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hotrodharley said:
His “close aides” confirming they’re afraid he’s not going to end the trade war before the election.
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Trump ending the Trade War?
Fat fucking chance.
The Chinese are going to end Trump, because the damage they WILL do, and are actually doing now to the US economy (devaluation of the yuan) is going to be staggering.
Like I've said before, you do not want to attack China, you must negotiate and not threaten, and Trump and his advisors seemly haven't figured that out, and now it too fucking late.
The damage is already done though, and I guess you can thank the fucking idiot in the WH and his supporters for the economic destruction that now will ensue in the US specifically, and the world in general.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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Jimdamick said:
Trump ending the Trade War?
Fat fucking chance.
The Chinese are going to end Trump, because the damage they WILL do, and are actually doing now to the US economy (devaluation of the yuan) is going to be staggering.
Like I've said before, you do not want to attack China, you must negotiate and not threaten, and Trump and his advisors seemly haven't figured that out, and now it too fucking late.
The damage is already done though, and I guess you can thank the fucking idiot in the WH and his supporters for the economic destruction that now will ensue in the US specifically, and the world in general.
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I think he should just continue to fuck China over as much as possible and not worry about the politics of it since he is going to lose the next election and go to prison anyway. The next president will hopefully be an adult and can make a deal. So yeah, more THAADs on SK and Taiwan operated by the US military free of cost, and big sales of weapons, including attack and cruise missile subs to those countries. Then he should just kill Huawei. basically cross all the lines in the sand that the CCP has drawn. Fuck them over as much as possible in every way that they have shown they are terrified of. Even confiscate some of their fishing vessels in the Atlantic and make sure Meng Wanzhou gets a huge prison sentence in a filthy prison.

The Chinese don't want a deal. He should go all the way China-hawk since he's finished. This has happened before. Nobody thought Rayguns would topple the USSR with a trade war but it did work There was a trade war with Japan at the same time. The same kind of idiot president with the same kind of domestic problems against the same kind of adversary government. You're wrong about the the contest between the US and China. They're the ones reneging. They're the ones playing hardline because they think the next president will be soft.

You already know I can't stand Trump and I do not support him, but the admiration for Chinese strength is just dumb. They have developed nothing impressive militarily, scientifically or technologically. They have only stolen tech. Their middle class wealth is tied up in real estate but they have vast sprawling empty cities. China is as ripe for a tumble as the USSR was. Their successes are over stated and their flaws are concealed.

Their citizenry is in open revolt in Hong Kong and that uprising is far more than just Hong Kong's millennials. You have to refrain from the media links on your chrome browser's suggested content. China's position is far overstated and the US hasn't even started attacking them in earnest. Again, I do not support Trump. I believe that a more mature and intelligent commander in chief would already have brought them down.

Militarily, they have nothing on us. They have only a defensive bubble around the West Philippine Sea. Their military tech is at least 20 years behind ours. The PLA navy would be annihilated in a matter of hours with minimal casualties in an all out war and without a ground invasion of mainland China, they would have no answer. They can't even invade Taiwan with its tiny defensive force. All they have on us is rare earths and public opinion. They are not in nearly as strong of a position as you think.

They are able to think in terms of decades with their planing while our leadership has 4 years at a time, likely followed by a new president who will scrap all of their plans. Look at Obama's work. Billions were spent and years were put into his pivot to Asia and TPP. Trump threw it all away in his first weeks. I can't stand Bannon but he's right on this one, just like Cheney was right about a lot of things (and extremely evil, his Haliburton made tens of billions on the Iraq war).

China is not as powerful as you think.
 
doublejj

doublejj

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abandonconflict said:
I think he should just continue to fuck China over as much as possible and not worry about the politics of it since he is going to lose the next election and go to prison anyway. The next president will hopefully be an adult and can make a deal. So yeah, more THAADs on SK and Taiwan operated by the US military free of cost, and big sales of weapons, including attack and cruise missile subs to those countries. Then he should just kill Huawei. basically cross all the lines in the sand that the CCP has drawn. Fuck them over as much as possible in every way that they have shown they are terrified of. Even confiscate some of their fishing vessels in the Atlantic and make sure Meng Wanzhou gets a huge prison sentence in a filthy prison.

The Chinese don't want a deal. He should go all the way China-hawk since he's finished. This has happened before. Nobody thought Rayguns would topple the USSR with a trade war but it did work There was a trade war with Japan at the same time. The same kind of idiot president with the same kind of domestic problems against the same kind of adversary government. You're wrong about the the contest between the US and China. They're the ones reneging. They're the ones playing hardline because they think the next president will be soft.

You already know I can't stand Trump and I do not support him, but the admiration for Chinese strength is just dumb. They have developed nothing impressive militarily, scientifically or technologically. They have only stolen tech. Their middle class wealth is tied up in real estate but they have vast sprawling empty cities. China is as ripe for a tumble as the USSR was. Their successes are over stated and their flaws are concealed.

Their citizenry is in open revolt in Hong Kong and that uprising is far more than just Hong Kong's millennials. You have to refrain from the media links on your chrome browser's suggested content. China's position is far overstated and the US hasn't even started attacking them in earnest. Again, I do not support Trump. I believe that a more mature and intelligent commander in chief would already have brought them down.

Militarily, they have nothing on us. They have only a defensive bubble around the West Philippine Sea. Their military tech is at least 20 years behind ours. The PLA navy would be annihilated in a matter of hours with minimal casualties in an all out war and without a ground invasion of mainland China, they would have no answer. They can't even invade Taiwan with its tiny defensive force. All they have on us is rare earths and public opinion. They are not in nearly as strong of a position as you think.

They are able to think in terms of decades with their planing while our leadership has 4 years at a time, likely followed by a new president who will scrap all of their plans. Look at Obama's work. Billions were spent and years were put into his pivot to Asia and TPP. Trump threw it all away in his first weeks. I can't stand Bannon but he's right on this one, just like Cheney was right about a lot of things (and extremely evil, his Haliburton made tens of billions on the Iraq war).

China is not as powerful as you think.
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they just outnumber us like 50 to 1....:roll:
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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doublejj said:
Oh and China quit buying our garbage......thanks trump
California's largest recycling business closes all 284 centers, lays off 750
https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/replanet-closures-bay-area-locations-sf-14283863.php
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Again, that is just another Chinese attack on us and the rest of the world. They produce the most plastic junk in the world by far so they should be the ones recycling it. Most of the plastic junk I pull out of the ocean was either made in china or manufactured from plastic China subsidized and exported. They set up the world's biggest recycling infrastructure and abandoned it. That puts the blame squarely at their feet. I'm happy to go out of my way to boycott their junk.
 
doublejj

doublejj

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abandonconflict said:
Again, that is just another Chinese attack on us and the rest of the world. They produce the most plastic junk in the world by far so they should be the ones recycling it. Most of the plastic junk I pull out of the ocean was either made in china or manufactured from plastic China subsidized and exported. They set up the world's biggest recycling infrastructure and abandoned it. That puts the blame squarely at their feet. I'm happy to go out of my way to boycott their junk.
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they were recycling it....until trump
 
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