jondamon
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And how do you propose he should do this with coco?
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And how do you propose he should do this with coco?
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Roger A. Shrubber
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make up some 200 ppm calmag and put it in a spray bottle. spray your plant with it two or three times a week.
coco will hold residual nutrients, and adding cal mag to your feed can cause the calcium from the cal mag and the sulfur from your nutrients to combine and precipitate out of the solution. the more you add the worse you can make it.
make up about a gallon of your regular feed, and add some cal mag to it, then wait about an hour and look at the bottom of your container. if there is dark colored "sand" in the bottom, your nutes and the cal mag don't play well together.....
coco will hold residual nutrients, and adding cal mag to your feed can cause the calcium from the cal mag and the sulfur from your nutrients to combine and precipitate out of the solution. the more you add the worse you can make it.
make up about a gallon of your regular feed, and add some cal mag to it, then wait about an hour and look at the bottom of your container. if there is dark colored "sand" in the bottom, your nutes and the cal mag don't play well together.....
Fupaslayer
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Wow I’m guessing then my cal-mag bottles is no good? Because every time I mix my nutes for my dwc it always leaves a sandy substance at the bottom!
Sobeit
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Not trying to be a dick but you take good advice and tell someone not to listen to it. I have upgraded and learned a lot of stuff since then, the shop light was temp (which actually did well for seedlings
). I do a lot of researching as I just enjoy reading and learning. It actually isn't that hard at all to learn about coco as their is a lot of articles and data already collected. Plant diagnosing is actually pretty simple for cannabis.If he doesn't listen to it, that is fine, it is good information that I took time to look into, I simply made it easily available for helping to solve his plant issue. You know why it is easy to find on the net? Because people have experienced the same issues multiple times and that is why good data is already available to help you solve these types of issues.
jondamon
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Not trying to be a dick but you take good advice and tell someone not to listen to it. I have upgraded and learned a lot of stuff since then, the shop light was temp (which actually did well for seedlings
If he doesn't listen to it, that is fine, it is good information that I took time to look into, I simply made it easily available for helping to solve his plant issue. You know why it is easy to find on the net? Because people have experienced the same issues multiple times and that is why good data is already available to help you solve these types of issues.
You’ve upgraded and learned a lot of stuff in a month. Lol.
Ok mate.
I’m giving advice based on 10 years of actual real world usage.
Sobeit
Member
When you have a car part you don't know how to install, what do you do? Take it to the mechanic to fix it for you? Not me, I diagnose the issue myself, read, learn what is wrong based off symptoms, I have fixed my car multiple times by myself by simply reading and researching based off data that has been already collected on the the symptoms allowed me to do this. Just here to help, not argue with some child on the internet over helping another person, this will be my last post in reference to you.
jondamon
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Not trying to be a dick but you take good advice and tell someone not to listen to it. I have upgraded and learned a lot of stuff since then, the shop light was temp (which actually did well for seedlings
If he doesn't listen to it, that is fine, it is good information that I took time to look into, I simply made it easily available for helping to solve his plant issue. You know why it is easy to find on the net? Because people have experienced the same issues multiple times and that is why good data is already available to help you solve these types of issues.
As it turns out have a guess what his runoff ppm is 4000ppm.
So I guess he has a high salinity problem like I mentioned.
Good job he’s been Pm’ing Me for a remedy.
Like I mentioned some of what you were talking about is helpful but other parts not so much.
I wish you well with your own grows and sorry if I came off as a bit of a dick myself.
Sorry.
I just get a little agitated when people with little grow experience try giving advice i a medium they don’t know themselves.
jondamon
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I’ve got an OBD2 reader for my own cars.
Currently fixed up a miss firing issue with my hot hatch car, got an alternator to install, new discs front and rear and new pads rear left to do before it goes for its road test cert.
And I ain’t no mechanic. I’m a network manager of IT equipment.
* edit
To the child comment I’m 39 ffs.
Sobeit
Member
So lockout...go figure
jondamon
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Like I said some of what you copied and pasted was useful.
But not all.
Look I’ve apologised and said sorry.
Get to the end of your first grow in soil and try coco if you want to.
I commend you for trying to help I really do.
Sorry again for coming across all shitty.
It’s one of the reasons I left this site for nearly 7 years.
Sobeit
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The copy paste was correct, I commend you for your apology, smoke more, be happy. Good day Sir.
OldMedUser
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From that one pic it looks more like leaf septoria to me.
Is odd that only one plant grown the same as the others suffers a deficiency that the the others don't. A disease striking one susceptible plant makes more sense to me.
Just my 2¢.
Is odd that only one plant grown the same as the others suffers a deficiency that the the others don't. A disease striking one susceptible plant makes more sense to me.
Just my 2¢.
Sobeit
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Yeah, it is odd if they are all being cared for in the same manner.From that one pic it looks more like leaf septoria to me.
Is odd that only one plant grown the same as the others suffers a deficiency that the the others don't. A disease striking one susceptible plant makes more sense to me.
Just my 2¢.
Fupaslayer
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Some pics of middle leaves
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jondamon
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From that one pic it looks more like leaf septoria to me.
Is odd that only one plant grown the same as the others suffers a deficiency that the the others don't. A disease striking one susceptible plant makes more sense to me.
Just my 2¢.
Correct it does look a lot like leaf septoria which can be triggered through nutrient issues.
OP’s runoff ppm has tested at 4000ppm which when considering the input solution is 1400ppm is a stupidly high reading.
He needs to remedy this first.
Sobeit
Member
Damn, @OldMedUser , well played.
jondamon
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Looking more and more like an uptake issue with Ca due to the high salinity in your rootzone.
lukedaduke
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Sure it has already been said.
Calcium.
pH is 5.9.. thats fine you wont see that level of Ca def at that pH
just flush heavy with clear then add in a light feed with elevated Ca.
general rule of thumb is 2 or 3 to 1 calcium to magnesium
also high levels of potassium in coco will agitate a calcium deficiency as coco has a CEC of its own based on Na and K ions. the K bound in the coco will readily exchange with the Ca you add and can out compete the plant roots if the levels of Ca are low. This is why everyone is always running stupid high levels of Ca in coco grows.
6 weeks into flower is a really bad time to be addressing a calcium deficiency unfortunately. You will know for the next grow now so its not all bad news.
Calcium.
pH is 5.9.. thats fine you wont see that level of Ca def at that pH
just flush heavy with clear then add in a light feed with elevated Ca.
general rule of thumb is 2 or 3 to 1 calcium to magnesium
also high levels of potassium in coco will agitate a calcium deficiency as coco has a CEC of its own based on Na and K ions. the K bound in the coco will readily exchange with the Ca you add and can out compete the plant roots if the levels of Ca are low. This is why everyone is always running stupid high levels of Ca in coco grows.
6 weeks into flower is a really bad time to be addressing a calcium deficiency unfortunately. You will know for the next grow now so its not all bad news.
Fupaslayer
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Ya I figured I’m already to deep in flower to get any bounce back on my buds at least the lil nugs I get come with a learning experience
OldMedUser
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Now that there's more pics it does look like a bit of a Ca deficiency but certainly not bad enough to be the cause of smallish buds.
One sick leaf does not a sick plant make so diagnosis based on the first pic is open to interpretation.
One sick leaf does not a sick plant make so diagnosis based on the first pic is open to interpretation.