The Real Reason The Propagandists Have Been Promoting Russia Hysteria

ttystikk

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Dear Democratic party: it's time to stop rigging the primaries
Heather Gautney
If Democrats want any hope of voting Trump out, they must fix the broken primary system before the next election

Mon 11 Jun 2018 06.00 EDT Last modified on Wed 22 Aug 2018 15.15 EDT

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‘The blue wave expected in 2018 could easily lose force if Democrats remain locked in internal struggles for control.’ Photograph: Mario Tama/Getty Images
Ask countless Bernie Sanders supporters, and they’ll tell you a big reason he lost the Democratic party primaries is simple: the process was rigged. In one state after another, the votes by party elites – so-called “superdelegates” – counted more than those of regular members. And arduous voting requirements meant that countless people who would have voted for Sanders were denied that right. If the Democrats want any hope of voting Trump out of the White House, it is urgent they fix this broken system before the next election.

As a member of Sanders’ campaign, I’ll never forget watching the primary votes being counted for Michigan, one of the key states that decided the 2016 election. Sanders’ “pledged delegate count” – which reflected the number of votes he received from rank-and-file Democrats – exceeded Clinton’s by four. But after the superdelegates cast their ballots, the roll call registered “Clinton 76, Sanders 67”.


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This repeated itself in other states. In Indiana, Sanders won the vote 44 to 39, but, after the super delegates had their say, Clinton was granted 46 delegates, versus Sanders’ 44. In New Hampshire, where Sanders won the vote by a gaping margin (60% to 38%) and set a record for the largest number of votes ever, the screen read “16 Sanders, 16 Clinton”.

Sanders “lost” those states because hundreds of superdelegates had pledged their votes long before the primaries and caucuses began. By including those prearranged votes, running media tallies reinforced the inevitability of a Clinton win and the common perception that the Democratic primary was “rigged”. In June, the Associated Press went so far as to call the primary in Clinton’s favor – before Californians even had a chance to cast their votes.

During the New York primary, between 3 and 4 million “unaffiliated” voters were disenfranchised due to a statute that required changing one’s party affiliation 25 days prior to the previous general election. In 2016, that deadline was 193 days before election day. Over a third of under-30 voters – Sanders’s core constituency – weren’t registered to any political party. When those young people tried to vote, they were turned away.





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Supporters cheer for Bernie Sanders at a presidential campaign rally in Prospect Park in Brooklyn, New York, on 17 April 2016. Photograph: Justin Lane/EPA
In New York and other Democratic-leaning states, primaries have serious consequences. For this year’s New York state primary, the deadline for unaffiliated voters to register Democratic is 11 months before the actual vote, a requirement that tilts the playing field in favor of incumbents. Unaffiliated voters wishing to support Cynthia Nixon’s bid for governor, for example, will never have had a chance to vote for her, because that deadline passed before she announced her candidacy. The Democratic party, in turn, forfeited its chance to attract millions of independent and unaffiliated voters to participate in its primary.

In 2016, the progressive grassroots wing of the Democratic party, which strongly supported Sanders, raised persistent alarms about the blatant structural bias of the primary system. The result was the formation of a tripartite Unity Reform Commission (with 10 representatives from the Clinton campaign, eight for Sanders, and three appointed by the chair).

The outcome of the election – Trump’s victory, widely perceived as a populist rejection of establishment politics – only increased the significance of the commission’s work, for soul-searching Democrats stung by bitter defeat. The commission’s consensus-drawn report, issued last December and endorsed by the Democratic party national chairman, Tom Perez, recommends that the number of superdelegates be reduced by 60%, and that state parties enact same-day voter registration and same-day party-switching. As an enforcement mechanism, state parties that don’t comply can be docked party convention delegates.

This summer, the Democratic National Committee (DNC) will consider these and other recommendations. These deliberations could fundamentally reshape the Democratic party, and American politics, for many years to come.

In many parts of the country, Democrats have almost no political influence at all

A “yes” vote for the Commission’s recommendations would diffuse the power of the Democratic party establishment and open the party to more progressive ideas and candidates. In places like New York, this could empower the progressive wing of the party, combat party-sanctioned voter suppression, and bring much-needed new blood to local and state politics.

Such a move could also recover some of the Democrats’ lost base. During Obama’s time as president, the Democratic party lost both chambers of Congress, nearly a thousand seats in state legislatures, and half of state governorships. In many parts of the country, Democrats have almost no political influence at all. The blue wave expected in 2018 could easily lose force if Democrats remain locked in internal struggles for control, rather than work together to expand their political horizon.

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In the wake of misconduct by past party officials, such reforms could also help restore lost credibility by preventing those in power from putting their thumbs on the scale and allowing establishment politicians and big money undue influence. Superdelegates are drawn from entrenched party leadership, and in 2016, at least 63 of the 712 total were registered lobbyists, and 32 more “shadow lobbyists”, some of which were associated with big banks, payday lenders and large corporations.

More profoundly, however, the reforms could help salve Americans’ justified skepticism regarding our “rigged” political system – and finally live up to the promise of one-person, one-vote. A no vote, on the other hand, would have the opposite effect: severely undermine the Democratic party’s legitimacy as a democratic party, and risk repeating the grave mistakes that got us where we are now.
EXACTLY!

The Democratic Party is corrupt to the core; they'd rather lose than change because their donors want things to stay just as they are, to hell with the majority of Americans.
 

srh88

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Hey man, it's just your country that's being stolen from you.

Make another joke.
The joke is the division that is about to happen to dems again.
If we stay on the route we were on last election.. Trump will win. Not he might win.. Hes going to win. If bernie is the nominee. Im voting for him. If biden is the nominee. Im voting for him. Right now im in an county that can go either way. Im trying to vote trump out. Im not throwing away my vote on an independent or writing in someone.
 

ttystikk

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The joke is the division that is about to happen to dems again.
If we stay on the route we were on last election.. Trump will win. Not he might win.. Hes going to win. If bernie is the nominee. Im voting for him. If biden is the nominee. Im voting for him. Right now im in an county that can go either way. Im trying to vote trump out. Im not throwing away my vote on an independent or writing in someone.
Division didn't 'happen' to the Democratic Party. As the article clearly states, the Party shoved its choice for nominee down the throats of the American People and made it blatantly obvious it gave not one fuck about who the constituents wanted.

If that happens again, Trump will get 4 more years.

I'm predicting right now that's how it's going down, because too many in the establishment Democratic party are too beholden to the donor cash to listen to average citizens.

Those citizens will stay home and Trump will win by default. Again.

That's why millions of Sandernistas are out organizing now, in order to make it plain to Americans (those who are still paying attention, that is) that there is a better alternative to the standard corporate vetted, purchased and approved shill the DNC will be trying its very damndest to shove down our throats. Again.

We'll compare notes on this next November.
 

srh88

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Division didn't 'happen' to the Democratic Party. As the article clearly states, the Party shoved its choice for nominee down the throats of the American People and made it blatantly obvious it gave not one fuck about who the constituents wanted.

If that happens again, Trump will get 4 more years.

I'm predicting right now that's how it's going down, because too many in the establishment Democratic party are too beholden to the donor cash to listen to average citizens.

Those citizens will stay home and Trump will win by default. Again.

That's why millions of Sandernistas are out organizing now, in order to make it plain to Americans (those who are still paying attention, that is) that there is a better alternative to the standard corporate vetted, purchased and approved shill the DNC will be trying its very damndest to shove down our throats. Again.

We'll compare notes on this next November.
The people voted and bernie lost. Im just excited to see how hillary gets blamed for bernie losing this time.

No matter what the media or dnc did.. If the people wanted him. He would of had the vote. Thats all i have to say about this topic. Have a good night dude
 

ttystikk

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The people voted and bernie lost. Im just excited to see how hillary gets blamed for bernie losing this time.

No matter what the media or dnc did.. If the people wanted him. He would of had the vote. Thats all i have to say about this topic. Have a good night dude
No, the people didn't vote him out; the Democratic Party Superdelegates did.

That's why Trump is in the White House.
 

hanimmal

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Hillary/DNC shafting Bernie and the democratic process was Russia's fault. ok LOL
The Russians are taking every event, distorting it and amplifying it using paid and useful idiot trolls to spread lies and disinformation.

Just like you are pushing this crap you do whenever you copy paste your Stormfront crap here. Bernie lost, it wasn't rigged, Clinton didn't push the issue and force him out and didn't cry foul after seeing the money her fundraising for the DNC go to the Sanders campaign, WHO WASNT EVEN A DEMOCRAT RUNNING FOR THE DEMOCRATIC TICKET.
 

Unclebaldrick

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No, the people didn't vote him out; the Democratic Party Superdelegates did.

That's why Trump is in the White House.


4,763 delegate votes to the Democratic National Convention
2,382 delegate votes needed to win

Candidate Hillary Clinton Bernie Sanders
Home state New York Vermont
Delegate count 2,842 1,865
Contests won 34 23
Popular vote 16,914,722[a][1] 13,206,428[a][1]
Percentage 55.2%[a] 43.1%[a]

I am so glad you are back Tyler. I like to start the morning with a laugh.
 

ttystikk

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The Russians are taking every event, distorting it and amplifying it using paid and useful idiot trolls to spread lies and disinformation.

Just like you are pushing this crap you do whenever you copy paste your Stormfront crap here. Bernie lost, it wasn't rigged, Clinton didn't push the issue and force him out and didn't cry foul after seeing the money her fundraising for the DNC go to the Sanders campaign, WHO WASNT EVEN A DEMOCRAT RUNNING FOR THE DEMOCRATIC TICKET.
You don't have evidence for any of this.
 

ttystikk

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4,763 delegate votes to the Democratic National Convention
2,382 delegate votes needed to win

Candidate Hillary Clinton Bernie Sanders
Home state New York Vermont
Delegate count 2,842 1,865
Contests won 34 23
Popular vote 16,914,722[a][1] 13,206,428[a][1]
Percentage 55.2%[a] 43.1%[a]

I am so glad you are back Tyler. I like to start the morning with a laugh.
Over 1700 Superdelegates had already planned to Clinton before the primaries ever started.

That isn't democracy, that's picking the winner and then running a sham.
 

ttystikk

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https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2019/05/27/the-worst-2020-election-interference-will-be-perfectly-legal/

Excerpt;
"Mass media propaganda is the single most overlooked and under-appreciated aspect of our society. The ability of an elite class to control the way a supermajority of the population thinks, acts and votes has shaped our entire world in the favor of a few sociopaths driven by an insatiable lust for money and power who got to where they are because they were willing to do anything to get ahead. If we can’t find a way to get a handle on that, then it won’t matter how pristine your elections are, how ethical the DNC primary process becomes, or what the Russians are up to this year."

No matter who you support for president, this is yet another log on the funeral pyre of American democracy.
 

Unclebaldrick

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https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2019/05/27/the-worst-2020-election-interference-will-be-perfectly-legal/

Excerpt;
"Mass media propaganda is the single most overlooked and under-appreciated aspect of our society. The ability of an elite class to control the way a supermajority of the population thinks, acts and votes has shaped our entire world in the favor of a few sociopaths driven by an insatiable lust for money and power who got to where they are because they were willing to do anything to get ahead. If we can’t find a way to get a handle on that, then it won’t matter how pristine your elections are, how ethical the DNC primary process becomes, or what the Russians are up to this year."

No matter who you support for president, this is yet another log on the funeral pyre of American democracy.
Lol. Did Squarepussy put you on to that?
 
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