New Zealands new gun buy back scheme.

[Rob Roy]

No but if you disagreed strongly enough with the law in your area you could either work “intelligently” to change it, sit in your cave and complain you are a slave among slaves (you), or move to the area that more closely aligned with your pedo ways.

So if a bunch of people, say a "majority" of people decide that 47 is a good age for the age of consent and they worked really really hard to make that happen, you'd be satisfied ?

 

[Rob Roy]

They can do what they like with it. Why would the summons issuer be armed for? I can see why they might be in America with all the loonies with weapons but we are talking New Zealand. They can even post them.
If they don't attend to the summons they would be arrested ( a warrant issued ) I spose just like anybody else who breaks the law and doesn't respect the summons.

So will the cops sent to arrest a person be armed and will the armed people initiate violence if the noncompliant person refuses to comply?

 

[Lucky Luke]

So will the cops sent to arrest a person be armed and will the armed people initiate violence if the noncompliant person refuses to comply?

I would imagine so, they are Police officers after all and some weirdoes with guns like to shoot them at other people. Of cause they wont initiate violence, they will arrest the person, without handcuffs cause its not America and take them down to the station for an interview. Seize the weapon that he hasn't turned in for its value or asked to be modified. Go home with a fine or a court case date.

And u were right. Buy back scheme is a silly name as they are not buying them back. Name aside its a fantastic, workable scheme that along with Amnesties removes unwanted or illegal guns from the community. I do admit its probably to late for America. The gun culture and bravo that goes with it is deep and strong. Sad really.

 

[Rob Roy]

I would imagine so, they are Police officers after all and some weirdoes with guns like to shoot them at other people. Of cause they wont initiate violence, they will arrest the person, without handcuffs cause its not America and take them down to the station for an interview. Seize the weapon that he hasn't turned in for its value or asked to be modified. Go home with a fine or a court case date.

If the gun doesn't belong to the armed aggressors (the douche bags in uniforms who are "just doing their job"' ) and they seize it, isn't that theft ?

So you believe that consolidating weapons in the hands of people who are okay with theft is a good crime deterrent ?

You also believe that sending armed men, who will eventually shoot peaceful people who don't comply, is a good way to reduce gun violence ?

I think you might be confused.

 

[Lucky Luke]

If the gun doesn't belong to the armed aggressors (the douche bags in uniforms who are "just doing their job"' ) and they seize it, isn't that theft ?

So you believe that consolidating weapons in the hands of people who are okay with theft is a good crime deterrent ?

You also believe that sending armed men, who will eventually shoot peaceful people who don't comply, is a good way to reduce gun violence ?

I think you might be confused.

How is something theft when they either buy it off you or you keep it after modification?

Why are the police shooting a peaceful person for? You haven't explained that bit, did he threaten them with an illegal weapon?

Yes, its been seen to work pretty well.

 

[Rob Roy]

How is something theft when they either buy it off you or you keep it after modification?

Why are the police shooting a peaceful person for? You haven't explained that bit, did he threaten them with an illegal weapon?

Yes, its been seen to work pretty well.

It is theft because the individual owner has decided they are not selling it, yet the cops "seize" it, which is your euphemism for theft.

If the police shoot a peaceful person for trying to retain something that person owns...wouldn't the cop be the aggressor?

Is a "legal weapon" used for offensive force somehow safer than an "illegal" weapon used for potential defensive force ? it sounds like you may have an obedience problem, meaning you equate obedience with a virtue and disobedience with somehow being wrongful.

Would you resist a law that said you had to return runaway slaves to their masters?

 

[Budley Doright]

So if a bunch of people, say a "majority" of people decide that 47 is a good age for the age of consent and they worked really really hard to make that happen, you'd be satisfied ?

Maybe, maybe not, but being one of your stupid hypothetical scenarios it’s not worth the effort to debate..... loser. You equate all of your stupid comparisons to the discussion of a child being able to make a sensible decision while being coerced by an adult. This is where you fail pedo, there is no comparing anything to the rape of a child to justify it. You keep saying we are fixated on this subject and yes I am, your thoughts on the subject are vile and disgusting and should be of focus. The whole fucking normal world agrees that you are a pedo excluding you and your pedo lot, so who’s wrong?

 

[Rob Roy]

Maybe, maybe not, but being one of your stupid hypothetical scenarios it’s not worth the effort to debate..... loser. You equate all of your stupid comparisons to the discussion of a child being able to make a sensible decision while being coerced by an adult. This is where you fail pedo, there is no comparing anything to the rape of a child to justify it. You keep saying we are fixated on this subject and yes I am, your thoughts on the subject are vile and disgusting and should be of focus. The whole fucking normal world agrees that you are a pedo excluding you and your pedo lot, so who’s wrong?

I'm sorry your arguments suck so bad, that you've wet your pants and are now reduced to calling names and making false accusations.

 

[Budley Doright]

I'm sorry your arguments suck so bad, that you've wet your pants and are now reduced to calling names and making false accusations.

If calling a person a pedo who believes a (what was the age again?) 12 year old can provide consent for an adult to rape them, is not acceptable to you, I’m more than good with that pedo.

 

[Rob Roy]

If calling a person a pedo who believes a (what was the age again?) 12 year old can provide consent for an adult to rape them, is not acceptable to you, I’m more than good with that pedo.

So if you believe Santa Claus has flying reindeer, that means you ARE a flying reindeer ?

Okay Rudolph with your nose so brown, you can't even argue better than a clown.

 

[abandonconflict]

"I'm not a pedo, I have just been arguing for years that children can consent to sexual relations."

Fits perfectly with this old canard:

"I'm not racist, I have just been arguing for years against civil rights and the end of racial segregation."

 

[hanimmal]

"I'm not a pedo, I have just been arguing for years that children can consent to sexual relations."

Fits perfectly with this old canard:

"I'm not racist, I have just been arguing for years against civil rights and the end of racial segregation."

https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/user/jaxt/blogposts/piblogpost011.html

Maybe you got through?

 

[Budley Doright]

So if you believe Santa Claus has flying reindeer, that means you ARE a flying reindeer ?

Okay Rudolph with your nose so brown, you can't even argue better than a clown.

Oh your funny but not one single fact to refute my assertion that you are a pedo other then nonsense comparisons to black prostitutes, sandwiches, and now reindeer. By the way I’m not arguing that your a pedo, I’m stating you are a pedo, or enabling the pedo, just as vile.

 

[Rob Roy]

Oh your funny but not one single fact to refute my assertion that you are a pedo other then nonsense comparisons to black prostitutes, sandwiches, and now reindeer. By the way I’m not arguing that your a pedo, I’m stating you are a pedo, or enabling the pedo, just as vile.

So if consent in a human relationship is important to you, (it should be) why do you support using force to make some people associate with or serve people that person prefers not to ? Why are you taking a huge dump on consent ?

I bet you don't answer that question.

Bonus, prove you are not a reindeer.

 

[hotrodharley]

If the gun doesn't belong to the armed aggressors (the douche bags in uniforms who are "just doing their job"' ) and they seize it, isn't that theft ?

So you believe that consolidating weapons in the hands of people who are okay with theft is a good crime deterrent ?

You also believe that sending armed men, who will eventually shoot peaceful people who don't comply, is a good way to reduce gun violence ?

I think you might be confused.

I think you are one of the absolute dumbest fucking alleged adults I’ve come across since I retired from the prison. I’ve heard all your arguments from guys sitting in the fucking joint. Not so much outside prison. Go figure.

 

[hotrodharley]

So if consent in a human relationship is important to you, (it should be) why do you support using force to make some people associate with or serve people that person prefers not to ? Why are you taking a huge dump on consent ?

I bet you don't answer that question.

Bonus, prove you are not a reindeer.

Prove you aren’t a natural born idiot. It’ll be easier to prove you’re a reindeer.

 

[Rob Roy]

"I'm not a pedo, I have just been arguing for years that children can consent to sexual relations."

Fits perfectly with this old canard:

"I'm not racist, I have just been arguing for years against civil rights and the end of racial segregation."

I think you are frustrated because I so thoroughly trounced you anytime we've had a real debate, Fake Anarchist.

I've said that people who are capable of consenting to something and do, are capable of consenting. I've also said that not all people gain the wherewithal to consent at the same exact age. Further I've said that the younger a person is, the less likely they can consent.

Which part of my statements above would you like to flash your brilliant intellect and refute?

 

[Rob Roy]

I think you are one of the absolute dumbest fucking alleged adults I’ve come across since I retired from the prison. I’ve heard all your arguments from guys sitting in the fucking joint. Not so much outside prison. Go figure.

I think you may have been raped by a Grizzly Bear and now he's left you and that makes you sad.

 

[hotrodharley]

I think you may have been raped by a Grizzly Bear and now he's left you and that makes you sad.

Again such a chuckler coming from a kiddy diddler.

 

[Rob Roy]

Again such a chuckler coming from a kiddy diddler.

Prove that a grizzly bear hasn't raped you.