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reallybigjesusfreak

reallybigjesusfreak

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DocofRock said:
100% agree. As long as you have sufficient airflow and have a properly aerated/well-draining medium, I’ve found planting directly into 3-5 gal pots is easier and the plants just seem to explode after about 2 weeks from seed, IMO. Honestly, if you’re rocking living soil, this is the best approach to least disturb the soil food web (so I’ve understood).
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I"m gonna disagree. Maybe easier, but in the long run if you check in on shit, I've found the most effecient growth is in the smallest possible containers up-potted gently and religiously. dont let it get rootbound. I get it that thats not practice for a lot of larger operations, but for the average 4x8 grower, its pretty easy to do.

maybe I just got shitty airflow. but I go through like 5 pot changes during veg into flower, ending in 5 gallon.
 
Frank Nitty

Frank Nitty

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I actually do the same sometimes. My garden stays pretty busy, um, sometimes I plant in solo cups, sometimes in 3-5 gallon pots. I have noticed that the ones I planted in big pots from the start explode with growth at a certain point, once they actually get to the vegetation stage. The ones in the small containers do not because they get root bound with a quickness and now I have to take the time to up pot em when I could be doin other useful stuff.
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Yeah,forget that madness!!! The first GG4 and the orange cookie i started in one gal pots which they quickly outgrew especially the GG4... Put em in 3 gallon pots and i had to supercrop them!!! Then we all know what happened next...:roll::wall:>:(:fire::fire::fire::finger::finger::finger:
 
Frank Nitty

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I have some really good pictures of that whole grow... I had them vegging the whole time my autos were growing,then switched to 16/8 and they grew like weeds!!! Im gonna make it happen again!!!
 
DocofRock

DocofRock

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reallybigjesusfreak said:
I"m gonna disagree. Maybe easier, but in the long run if you check in on shit, I've found the most effecient growth is in the smallest possible containers up-potted gently and religiously. dont let it get rootbound. I get it that thats not practice for a lot of larger operations, but for the average 4x8 grower, its pretty easy to do.

maybe I just got shitty airflow. but I go through like 5 pot changes during veg into flower, ending in 5 gallon.
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To be fair, I actually have like a stupid amount of airflow (2 fans, intake/output carbon filtered inline fans, and a Hepa air purifier with an anti microbial silver solution in the filter that is rated for spaces of 750+ square feet in my 4x4) and I dehumidify. If there is one thing I learned early on in my growing experience, it’s that there is no such thing as too much fresh air.

Anyway, in my circumstances, these large girls can take 1+ gallons without even any runoff on a daily basis. Not so when you’re first raising new plants. Also, I think it’s more beneficial to transplant photoperiod plants than autos. Autos I start in 3-5 gallon containers as in my experience they don’t react well to transplanting. All of the photos I’ve grown were still up-transplanted throughout their life cycle, but I’ve been really surprised to see how well the autos I’ve grown take to full sized containers (with appropriate watering practices).

I’m still a newb so I have far less experience than most here, but in my experience thus far, I really dig organics + organic dry amendments and teas. I think my future grows will be headed that direction exclusively, and AFAIK, a lot of the organics crowd start their no-till gardens and such in the final container from the get go. Something about establishing a stable soil food web and uniform moisture.
 
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diggs99

diggs99

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Day 15 since flip and its been a busy one

Built an aerocloner, took clones, setup tent and lights for said clones and watered the flowering crew 3 times so far.

The flowering girls are doing great, buds forming all over the canopy now. Exiting times ahead

Wish me luck on these clones, i havent had any success yet cloning lol


ps: you see that red container? thats being filled 36 times daily and given to the plants by hand, fun stuff lol....new manifolds cant get here fast enough. Although i do enjoy handwatering, gets you up close and personal with the ladies lol
 

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DocofRock

DocofRock

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diggs99 said:
Day 15 since flip and its been a busy one

Built an aerocloner, took clones, setup tent and lights for said clones and watered the flowering crew 3 times so far.

The flowering girls are doing great, buds forming all over the canopy now. Exiting times ahead

Wish me luck on these clones, i havent had any success yet cloning lol


ps: you see that red container? thats being filled 36 times daily and given to the plants by hand, fun stuff lol....new manifolds cant get here fast enough. Although i do enjoy handwatering, gets you up close and personal with the ladies lol
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Our plants are very close together. I bet we’ll be chopping within a week or two of each other. Look great! P.S. I love that setup. I can’t wait til I can get out the hood (tent life).
 
pthobson

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DocofRock said:
Something like this:

BBnC, 13 Days from Flip:
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Or maybe... Critical 2.0+ Auto or Grape Walker Kush Auto?
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Yeah I could make this work for forever. :)

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And presently curing:
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Chocolate diesel coming through on those girls for sure. Looks amazing
 
pthobson

pthobson

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diggs99 said:
Day 15 since flip and its been a busy one

Built an aerocloner, took clones, setup tent and lights for said clones and watered the flowering crew 3 times so far.

The flowering girls are doing great, buds forming all over the canopy now. Exiting times ahead

Wish me luck on these clones, i havent had any success yet cloning lol


ps: you see that red container? thats being filled 36 times daily and given to the plants by hand, fun stuff lol....new manifolds cant get here fast enough. Although i do enjoy handwatering, gets you up close and personal with the ladies lol
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The bat cave is looking more than good. :bigjoint:
 
DocofRock

DocofRock

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@pthobson This is my first time growing photoperiods (I started these April 15th), so it’s been really eye opening to kinda understand branching structure and training, specifically what I can do better next time. I have some totally wonky branch structure that could have been lot better organized.

That said, these girls have gotten a LOT of love. Is it normal to have this size of flower 13 days from 12/12? I have no reference to know how these girls are doing, other than they look good as far as I can tell to the untrained eye.

Also I forgot to share my ‘91 Oranges. It’s been kinda shoved in this corner here in light of how damn sprawling the BBnC is. I kinda neglected finding proper PPFD/light height in the beginning of its life, plus the other plants in this 4x4 are just huge. Truthfully everything in that tent is neglected except the BBnC because I have so much time invested in them. Luckily I keep a shit load of Useful beans.

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pthobson

pthobson

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DocofRock said:
@pthobson This is my first time growing photoperiods (I started these April 15th), so it’s been really eye opening to kinda understand branching structure and training, specifically what I can do better next time. I have some totally wonky branch structure that could have been lot better organized.

That said, these girls have gotten a LOT of love. Is it normal to have this size of flower 13 days from 12/12? I have no reference to know how these girls are doing, other than they look good as far as I can tell to the untrained eye.

Also I forgot to share my ‘91 Oranges. It’s been kinda shoved in this corner here in light of how damn sprawling the BBnC is. I kinda neglected finding proper PPFD/light height in the beginning of its life, plus the other plants in this 4x4 are just huge. Truthfully everything in that tent is neglected except the BBnC because I have so much time invested in them. Luckily I keep a shit load of Useful beans.

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If I’m not mistaken didn’t you veg for quite awhile? Obviously great genetics but if you vegged for as long as I think you did, them bad girls transitioned to flower quick due to being more than mature enough. They’re looking good just keep doing what you’re doing, it’s working :bigjoint:
 
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