UncleBuck
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just ignore him. h's a neo-nazi who only lies or acts in bad faith
everything will eventually devolve into a comparison in which he gets raped and enslaved
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everything will eventually devolve into a comparison in which he gets raped and enslaved
hotrodharley
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Then start thinking about economics instead of personal family issues. Nobody should be forced to have a child for any reason whatsoever. Especially as an economic captive. Day care alone is a huge expense. Medical care and etc.
UncleBuck
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then don't get one
by doing that, you will have done all you can do short of personally handing out birth control
Rob Roy
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Yes really. I have a yen to find out.
Justin-case
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That's 1/300
Fogdog
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Where do you get your news? Maybe it's time to make a change?
Number of U.S. Abortions Hits Lowest Rate Since Roe v. Wade, CDC Reports
https://time.com/5461616/abortions-lowest-rate-cdc/
Abortion rates go down when countries make it legal: report
Countries with stricter abortion laws have higher abortion rates
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-care/abortion-rates-go-down-when-countries-make-it-legal-report-n858476
Fogdog
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birth rates go down when women get better education and enter the workforce.
Another factor is a country's wealth. When a country has a strong economy and people are well off, the cost of raising kids goes up. People put off having kids until later and then they have fewer.
These are all good things. It's just that economies are geared for eternally high and unsustainable growth. The contradictions need to be resolved.
tangerinegreen555
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This whole thing is the same as building the stupid wall. I don't think much is going to happen, he'll just tweet that it did. If you're going to raid somebody you don't announce it in advance unless your only goal is to fire up your white trash base.
Where would they even put all those people?
The real cops don't want anything to do with it in many locations and won't share info.
And they aren't really allowed to knock down doors, just knock on them. It's not like they're criminals.
hotrodharley
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The pyramid scheme known as capitalism requires more people with more money in this unending cycle. It requires inflation. But just enough for the profit takers to be rewarded. Not so much the poor start causing trouble.
Averaged over a decade from a high of over a million to a low now of 600k. Does it change my point though? I just saying that abortion is an extreme thing that is being used by dumb fcks who should be using condoms.
TacoMac
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There aren't. There never has been.
In 2015, the last year we have numbers for, there were 638,169 abortions. It's one of the highest numbers ever but is still nowhere near a million.
In contrast to that in the same year there were 3,978,497 births.
Ok you guys are right, not many abortions at all, for fcks sake grab a bone.
Nobody should be alright with 600k or 800k abortions. There’s no way in hell im going to tell a woman they can’t have one, but there’s no way in hell i don’t believe that’s killing a life either.
Nobody should be alright with 600k or 800k abortions. There’s no way in hell im going to tell a woman they can’t have one, but there’s no way in hell i don’t believe that’s killing a life either.
squarepush3r
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This reminds me of Nazi Germany. Does anyone else get reminded of Nazi Germany? Trump reminds of of Hitler, does anyone else think so?
I wonder if Trump is going to Holocaust all immigrants in the USA?
hanimmal
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1. Nobody is 'pro-abortion'. It sucks and is a tough decision, nobody is handing out punchcard to get a free prize with 10th one.
2. Flushing something the size of a bean out of a body that if left unchecked will end up demanding about 18 years and about $300,000. Condoms break, couples get too worked up and don't use one, birth control gets missed, some don't have access to either form of birth control. So many reasons sex ends in unwanted pregnancy that if forced to conceive every time when there is a very safe alternative for the women that are not ready to add another life that they will have to push out of their bodies.
Jimdamick
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I'm not 70, but getting there, maybe
I grew up in the 60's watching America's decline from a society where a family of five could have 3 kids, a stay at home mom and a dad that only needed 1 job to pay for 2 weeks vacation and college for their kids, and it was great (minus the Viet Nam war, assassinations and cities being burnt to the ground)
Of course that was when CEO's weren't the greedy cunts that they are now, they shared profits equitably and paid themselves reasonably.
Today that scenario is gone forever, and what we are witnessing today is the death spiral of the middle class (forget about the poor)
The people in power today, the bosses, the corporations and this present government for the most part has left morality and decency at the door, and it will end up destroying America, and that is a sad fucking fact.
Jimdamick
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Yea, it really doesn't get more extreme than having to make that decision.
I was involved in 2 abortions where the women tried to be responsible in the sense they used birth control, but it failed.
No one wants an abortion, it is heartrending if you have any compassion at all, but sometimes it is necessary for the sake of all involved.
Moldy
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Gov. Gavin Newsom announced recently, "Don't open your door without a warrant." I guess that is sound advice for even caucasians.
TacoMac
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I'm a man. It's not my call to make and not my place to decide one way or the other.
It's also not my place to judge the situation one way or the other.
The day men get pregnant, they can weigh in. Until that day comes, our job is to support the woman no matter which decision she makes the best we can.