It's Mueller Time

printer

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Yeah but id the FBI would have informed the Trump team right from the start they could have stamped out the smoldering and saved the country a bunch of grief. Once Barr has finished his purge (sorry, I meant investigation) maybe the FBI will give Trump the additional two years that was stolen from him.
 

Grandpapy

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Yeah but id the FBI would have informed the Trump team right from the start they could have stamped out the smoldering and saved the country a bunch of grief. Once Barr has finished his purge (sorry, I meant investigation) maybe the FBI will give Trump the additional two years that was stolen from him.
Because walking and chewing gum is so hard? Who would of known.
 

topcat

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Yeah but id the FBI would have informed the Trump team right from the start they could have stamped out the smoldering and saved the country a bunch of grief. Once Barr has finished his purge (sorry, I meant investigation) maybe the FBI will give Trump the additional two years that was stolen from him.
What makes you think the Trump team would act? After all, they were told about Flynn by Obama, himself, and Sally Yates and still kept him on for weeks before they acted, happy to have a Russian spy in the position to infiltrate the national security.
Stolen years? How about giving Obama back his 8 stolen years of obstruction by chinless Mitch and Ryan. Besides, it couldn't be up to the FBI to do that, but you know that, right? Naa.
 
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Herb & Suds

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Yeah but id the FBI would have informed the Trump team right from the start they could have stamped out the smoldering and saved the country a bunch of grief. Once Barr has finished his purge (sorry, I meant investigation) maybe the FBI will give Trump the additional two years that was stolen from him.
The FBI , Comey warned him that Russians was trying
Agents met with the campaign with the same warning
Now turn off Fox news and grab a book
 

Bugeye

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Typically, the FBI isn't in the habit of tipping off criminals that they're investigating them.

I know in your world which is based on the voices you hear in your own head you expect that courtesy, but it is not now nor has it ever been a part of reality.
The following is from a former FBI agent:

link: https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/443741-jim-comeys-own-words-justify-bill-barrs-review

Conducting any investigation — as Comey did — out of FBI headquarters, let alone the Director’s Office, is not by the book. It is so outside “the book” that current FBI Director Christopher Wray is implementing policy, according to reliable internal sources, that restores investigations exclusively to the field offices and prohibits headquarters — where the FBI most closely intersects with the flame of political D.C. — from ever conducting investigations again. Prudent, and good news for the country.

Comey said that running confidential human sources and undercover operatives is normal activity. It is, but under tight restrictions. Targeting U.S. citizens working for a presidential campaign with confidential sources, non-FBI undercover investigators, and Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) electronic surveillance, is not normal. It’s never been done before. There is no “book” for it.

This is where U.S. Attorney Durham has his work cut out for him. Did Comey and his team follow Attorney General Guidelines, which govern the proper use of these investigative techniques? A lot of digging is needed here.

In addition, experienced counterintelligence investigators will tell you that when there is an intersection of Russian intelligence operatives and a U.S. citizen, the normal “book” calls for the FBI to warn the American about Russian intelligence “tricks” and then obtain cooperation, to help learn even more about Russian objectives.

This traditional book was not followed by Comey’s team, nor were those courtesies extended to the Trump campaign. Instead, campaign members were immediately targeted for investigation. In light of Comey’s recent comments, we may now know why.

His infamous news conference on July 5, 2016, where he invented a new FBI authority to decline prosecution of a presidential candidate, only to then publicly excoriate her, was not by the book. His later decision, just days before America voted, to unnecessarily reopen an investigation that he had declined was not by the book either, and it caused a disruption to the election about which the Russians could only fantasize.

His decisions to reveal the existence of an FBI counterintelligence investigation into a presidential campaign during congressional testimony, his leaking of FBI materials to the press, and his post-firing book tour and media blitz are all unfamiliar behaviors for an FBI director. They definitely were not by the book.

For all of these reasons, there is growing concern, based on Comey’s own words and actions, that the FBI may have been hijacked by a partisan political operative. So the attorney general clearly is justified in his appointment of Durham.

The real FBI, the agents and analysts and support personnel who day in and day out truly conduct themselves “by the book,” want the trust of the American people restored in the FBI. It is a value we should all be fighting for.

Kevin R. Brock, former assistant director of intelligence for the FBI, was an FBI special agent for 24 years and principal deputy director of the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC). He is a founder and principal ofNewStreet Global Solutions, LLC.
 

UncleBuck

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The following is from a former FBI agent:

link: https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/443741-jim-comeys-own-words-justify-bill-barrs-review

Conducting any investigation — as Comey did — out of FBI headquarters, let alone the Director’s Office, is not by the book. It is so outside “the book” that current FBI Director Christopher Wray is implementing policy, according to reliable internal sources, that restores investigations exclusively to the field offices and prohibits headquarters — where the FBI most closely intersects with the flame of political D.C. — from ever conducting investigations again. Prudent, and good news for the country.

Comey said that running confidential human sources and undercover operatives is normal activity. It is, but under tight restrictions. Targeting U.S. citizens working for a presidential campaign with confidential sources, non-FBI undercover investigators, and Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) electronic surveillance, is not normal. It’s never been done before. There is no “book” for it.

This is where U.S. Attorney Durham has his work cut out for him. Did Comey and his team follow Attorney General Guidelines, which govern the proper use of these investigative techniques? A lot of digging is needed here.

In addition, experienced counterintelligence investigators will tell you that when there is an intersection of Russian intelligence operatives and a U.S. citizen, the normal “book” calls for the FBI to warn the American about Russian intelligence “tricks” and then obtain cooperation, to help learn even more about Russian objectives.

This traditional book was not followed by Comey’s team, nor were those courtesies extended to the Trump campaign. Instead, campaign members were immediately targeted for investigation. In light of Comey’s recent comments, we may now know why.

His infamous news conference on July 5, 2016, where he invented a new FBI authority to decline prosecution of a presidential candidate, only to then publicly excoriate her, was not by the book. His later decision, just days before America voted, to unnecessarily reopen an investigation that he had declined was not by the book either, and it caused a disruption to the election about which the Russians could only fantasize.

His decisions to reveal the existence of an FBI counterintelligence investigation into a presidential campaign during congressional testimony, his leaking of FBI materials to the press, and his post-firing book tour and media blitz are all unfamiliar behaviors for an FBI director. They definitely were not by the book.

For all of these reasons, there is growing concern, based on Comey’s own words and actions, that the FBI may have been hijacked by a partisan political operative. So the attorney general clearly is justified in his appointment of Durham.

The real FBI, the agents and analysts and support personnel who day in and day out truly conduct themselves “by the book,” want the trust of the American people restored in the FBI. It is a value we should all be fighting for.

Kevin R. Brock, former assistant director of intelligence for the FBI, was an FBI special agent for 24 years and principal deputy director of the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC). He is a founder and principal ofNewStreet Global Solutions, LLC.
You cucks should be more grateful for comey

He’s the only reason your neo nazi pedophile hero got into office
 

printer

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I think he was being facetious guys
Hey I'm new here, it may take a while.

Which reminds me of a story. I used to work in a brewery and at this time in the bottle shop where there is a lot of broken glass around. The newish brewmaster was taking a few people for a tour of the place and they went around the other side of a machine. I went up to him and asked, "Do you do this at home?" He asked what? "Do you just drop in with guests and say to your wife, "Honey I'm home."? He said no, maybe he should have let us know that they were coming. I went back to work.

Then he walked up to me and asked, "You are pulling my chain, right?"
 

rkymtnman

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Witness tampering, Trump style:
Hey, Rob, uhm, this is John again. Uh, maybe, I-I-I'm-I'm sympathetic; I understand your situation, but let me see if I can't ... state it in ... starker terms. If you have ... and it wouldn't surprise me if you've gone on to make a deal with, and, uh, work with the government, uh ... I understand that you can't join the joint defense; so that's one thing. If, on the other hand, we have, there's information that. .. implicates the President, then we've got a national security issue, or maybe a national security issue, I don't know ... some issue, we got to-we got to deal with, not only for the President, but for the country. So ... uh ... you know, then-then, you know, we need some kind of heads up. Um, just for the sake of ... protecting all our interests, if we can, without you having to give up any ... confidential information. So, uhm, and if it's the former, then, you know, remember what we've always said about the President and his feelings toward Flynn and, that still remains, but-Well, in any event, uhm, let me know, and, uh, I appreciate your listening and taking the time. Thanks, Pal.
 

Herb & Suds

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Witness tampering, Trump style:
Hey, Rob, uhm, this is John again. Uh, maybe, I-I-I'm-I'm sympathetic; I understand your situation, but let me see if I can't ... state it in ... starker terms. If you have ... and it wouldn't surprise me if you've gone on to make a deal with, and, uh, work with the government, uh ... I understand that you can't join the joint defense; so that's one thing. If, on the other hand, we have, there's information that. .. implicates the President, then we've got a national security issue, or maybe a national security issue, I don't know ... some issue, we got to-we got to deal with, not only for the President, but for the country. So ... uh ... you know, then-then, you know, we need some kind of heads up. Um, just for the sake of ... protecting all our interests, if we can, without you having to give up any ... confidential information. So, uhm, and if it's the former, then, you know, remember what we've always said about the President and his feelings toward Flynn and, that still remains, but-Well, in any event, uhm, let me know, and, uh, I appreciate your listening and taking the time. Thanks, Pal.
No collusion !

Edit: I meant OBSTRUCTION !
 

topcat

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Witness tampering, Trump style:
Hey, Rob, uhm, this is John again. Uh, maybe, I-I-I'm-I'm sympathetic; I understand your situation, but let me see if I can't ... state it in ... starker terms. If you have ... and it wouldn't surprise me if you've gone on to make a deal with, and, uh, work with the government, uh ... I understand that you can't join the joint defense; so that's one thing. If, on the other hand, we have, there's information that. .. implicates the President, then we've got a national security issue, or maybe a national security issue, I don't know ... some issue, we got to-we got to deal with, not only for the President, but for the country. So ... uh ... you know, then-then, you know, we need some kind of heads up. Um, just for the sake of ... protecting all our interests, if we can, without you having to give up any ... confidential information. So, uhm, and if it's the former, then, you know, remember what we've always said about the President and his feelings toward Flynn and, that still remains, but-Well, in any event, uhm, let me know, and, uh, I appreciate your listening and taking the time. Thanks, Pal.
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printer

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So Dershowitz is in a hissy fit because, 'The phone call looks only bad, it is not really bad.' . The whole argument is the deleted bits make the lawyer sympathetic. Oh dear, you would not want that to get out. Feeling sympathy for someone that has just gone over to the dark side (government). 'But even though I understand why you would do that, if you see any trouble that could impact the President, think of the good for the country in passing along the information. After all, a strong President means a strong country, right? And you are patriotic.'

My interpretation. But I am no sympathetic lawyer, so what do I know?
 
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