Amazon cob/leds?

[Fupaslayer]

I was wondering if anyone here has tried any cob/led lights under 200$ from amazon with some decent/good yields. I’ve looked into better ones that have been recommended but can’t afford them this year. And right now amazon is my only purchase option. Any facts/opinions would be great to hear. Right now the phlizon Cree cob 1000 has my attention after seeing a YouTuber use it with some above par results in my opinion but also the Aglex 1200 cob good to but really know nothing .. Any help? Also what would be the cost difference to run one of the lights I mentioned compared to a 600watt hps?

 

[Lethidox]

i've tried only 2 i bought from amazon. 1. lighttimetunnel 75W doubt it is 75W but was my first lights that i could afford at the time plants grew well under um but wouldn't recommend unless you strictly use them for seedlings later down the line. 2. KING plus LED 2000 watt. not sure how much i paid for these ones but they have smaller ones. wasn't too bad tbh biggest complaint imo is they get really hot and they are pretty fucking heavy.

exchanged the king plus for HLG 320 XL v2 well worth the price i paid shit is brighter and covers more area, lighter, and is cooler as well. took forever to get to me but thats because i bought it pre assembled but even so the assembly was nice.

lots of people i see tend to run mars hydro lights never tried um but im sure they are decent lights. i still see a lot of people running HPS as well i dont run HPS just because i live in a hot climate state year round so best option for me is led's even if i were to cool the lights down with a vent it would still be too hot plus the fixture is super bulky for my grow space/tent it just kills a bunch of potential height for me.

overall my 2c i think LEDs > HPS long term cost wise. they simply last longer and are supposed to be cheaper to run long term. our electric bills hasn't been extremely high since i started growing but if i ran HPS i think.. it would of been higher.

 

[Nizza]

i literally just bought an awaiting shipping on a 135 w 288 quantum led kit rspec i'll let you know how it goes man! I have done some research here and reputable growers find that the quantum boards are great

it was less than 200$ i think like 185 for the kit and it is 135w draw.
edit: and dimmable

 

[Lethidox]

what i read is if your buying LED's go for a 3.5k spectrum if using it to flower and veg those are the best for 2 in 1's if i recall correctly. 3k is doable but 3.5k is better. if you have the option try looking up or asking people how to build um might be cheaper and better overall then buying a premade for the same price.

idk if you know anything about computers but typically building your own desktop is cheaper then buying a pre made one and the money you save by building it yourself you can actually invest into better parts so your basically building a better computer for the same amount as you'd get purchasing a premade one. idk how good the knock off brands are but i wouldn't trust them personally.

 

[Fupaslayer]

what i read is if your buying LED's go for a 3.5k spectrum if using it to flower and veg those are the best for 2 in 1's if i recall correctly. 3k is doable but 3.5k is better. if you have the option try looking up or asking people how to build um might be cheaper and better overall then buying a premade for the same price.

idk if you know anything about computers but typically building your own desktop is cheaper then buying a pre made one and the money you save by building it yourself you can actually invest into better parts so your basically building a better computer for the same amount as you'd get purchasing a premade one. idk how good the knock off brands are but i wouldn't trust them personally.

I know absolutely nothing about building either that’s something I need to learn real soon because I really don’t want to have to turn to hps due to the heat I live in already

 

[Nizza]

As soon as i get my HLG quantum kit I'll make a thread documenting my build there are others who have done this that will be chiming in but i really dont think it takes too much time to make one

 

[Lethidox]

I know absolutely nothing about building either that’s something I need to learn real soon because I really don’t want to have to turn to hps due to the heat I live in already

i think there is a dedicated thread to building lights but you could ask in this section as well. idk shit about building lights so i can't help you there but i know a few people here are. they can show you how to build and all that stuff.

 

[Nizza]

I bought a few mars 2- 300w Pro's and from what I've read they're nothing compared to these quantums so i'm just going to try them out myself

 

[Lethidox]

I bought a few mars 2- 300w Pro's and from what I've read they're nothing compared to these quantums so i'm just going to try them out myself

mars vs HLG? lmfao mars aint got shit on HLG qb's thats a fact. dropped $500 on my 320 xl v2 kit best money i ever spent on lights tbh. could of went a cheaper route saved some cash but they are a fucking beast. only grew some sunflowers fully from seed to end with um in my sig is the journal but i've finished off my last grow which was strawberry cough with the hlg's yield was better and quality was way better.

 

[Nizza]

thats exactly what i'm talking about lol and im sure there are plenty of others here who agree man. i cant wait to get my LED's in so i can start up my micro cab operation this humid ass summer and see how it goes

I had great results even with the crappy mars lights I cant wait to see the difference!

 

[Fupaslayer]

As soon as i get my HLG quantum kit I'll make a thread documenting my build there are others who have done this that will be chiming in but i really dont think it takes too much time to make one

Please do lmk when you put that out

 

[Fupaslayer]

Thanks for both of y’alls info I really appreciate it

 

[Nizza]

this will be my thread in this cab from beginning to end and I havent even built it yet so it will most likely be at least a month before you see the whole thing built with a plant growing in it
https://www.rollitup.org/t/36hbxb-hw-first-co-air-handler-grow-cab.989701/#post-14901765

 

[Nizza]

and I am a newb at this stuff I just wanted to show my interests in lighting and give a little input i could i hope to get some back from you bro good luck

 

[coreywebster]

https://www.amazon.com/Phlizon-Spectrum-Growing-Monitor-Adjustable/dp/B07ML3NDDY
1000w light that is 240w is a 240w light. Should work well in a 2x2 ft space maybe 2x3ft

https://www.amazon.com/AGLEX-Spectrum-Reflector-Hydroponic-Greenhouse/dp/B07F7TVKGW
a 1200w grow light that is only 210w so its a 210w grow light.

The fact they use shill methods to make their lights sound more powerful than they are is a bad sign, its common with amazon lights like these but its still a bad sign.

This one also claims to cover a 3x4 space, it may light a 3x4 up if you hang it high enough and it may veg perfectly well but 210w is not enough to get good results in flower over that space, even the best LEDs cant do that space with that little power.


Im sure I already asked what space your trying to light up but I don't remember?


There really is no magic light for a bargain price , if there were we would all be using them.

 

[Lethidox]

thats exactly what i'm talking about lol and im sure there are plenty of others here who agree man. i cant wait to get my LED's in so i can start up my micro cab operation this humid ass summer and see how it goes

I had great results even with the crappy mars lights I cant wait to see the difference!

yea i mean it's about budget mars is a good light for the budget imo. gotta start somewhere and imo it's better to learn with cheap equipment cause it forces you to do research and better your skills due to the lack of good equipment you got. thats how it was for me at least with the 75W LED i bought was total shit but i made it work.

 

[diggs99]

https://www.amazon.com/Phlizon-Spectrum-Growing-Monitor-Adjustable/dp/B07ML3NDDY
1000w light that is 240w is a 240w light. Should work well in a 2x2 ft space maybe 2x3ft

https://www.amazon.com/AGLEX-Spectrum-Reflector-Hydroponic-Greenhouse/dp/B07F7TVKGW
a 1200w grow light that is only 210w so its a 210w grow light.

The fact they use shill methods to make their lights sound more powerful than they are is a bad sign, its common with amazon lights like these but its still a bad sign.

This one also claims to cover a 3x4 space, it may light a 3x4 up if you hang it high enough and it may veg perfectly well but 210w is not enough to get good results in flower over that space, even the best LEDs cant do that space with that little power.


Im sure I already asked what space your trying to light up but I don't remember?


There really is no magic light for a bargain price , if there were we would all be using them.

Aint that the truth .

OP You could/should also consider the CMH route, much less heat than HPS and grows some killer dank. They are priced decently, especially compared to good LEDs or Cobs

Good and proper leds or cobs are gonna run you anywhere from $1.50-$2.00+ per watt. unless you build them. Then you may be able to do it for a little cheaper.

To answer your original question, unless its HLG qbs, i wouldnt buy any led lights or cobs off amazon, i would go with a cheap CMH or HPS setup and save your money for good leds if thats what you want.

Amazon has a few other brands that are probably decent but are absurdly priced and still prob arent as good as the HLG boards.

Another option is the chinese knockoffs from Alibaba, theres a huge thread in the led section, guys are growing nice weed with those boards too.

best of luck, enjoy the rabbit hole

 

[Fupaslayer]

https://www.amazon.com/Phlizon-Spectrum-Growing-Monitor-Adjustable/dp/B07ML3NDDY
1000w light that is 240w is a 240w light. Should work well in a 2x2 ft space maybe 2x3ft

https://www.amazon.com/AGLEX-Spectrum-Reflector-Hydroponic-Greenhouse/dp/B07F7TVKGW
a 1200w grow light that is only 210w so its a 210w grow light.

The fact they use shill methods to make their lights sound more powerful than they are is a bad sign, its common with amazon lights like these but its still a bad sign.

This one also claims to cover a 3x4 space, it may light a 3x4 up if you hang it high enough and it may veg perfectly well but 210w is not enough to get good results in flower over that space, even the best LEDs cant do that space with that little power.


Im sure I already asked what space your trying to light up but I don't remember?


There really is no magic light for a bargain price , if there were we would all be using them.

I found a Brand that claims that it is triple chipped. do you think that will be better than the two I mentioned? Right now I have a cheap $80 LED from Amazon that is vegging six plants better than I expected But I know I need more soon and especially when it comes to flower. I was thinking of getting a 600 W CMH with my current cheap light on one side of it and the light I just mentioned (triple chip 1500w/ brand is yehsense) on the other side

 

[Nizza]

making it happen with the mars was awesome, i was expecting to be let down by its performance and it has already paid for itself so is why im upgrading to what probably should have been in the first place. Alot of growers here say the white light panels out perform the blurples significantly and also the board im buying has some cool far red chips in it to help with ripening. The whole LED scene is progressing rapidly and its really hard to say if one light thats cheaper is better to buy more of rather than a few quality lights.

when I look back, especially for my climate, I wish that I had no HPS lights or T5's because what i've seen from my LEDS (only blurple for now) is pretty great on a micro scale: they just lack light penetration which can be overcome by training and keeping canopy at a certain thickness, depending on your light array

 

[coreywebster]

I found a Brand that claims that it is triple chipped. do you think that will be better than the two I mentioned? Right now I have a cheap $80 LED from Amazon that is vegging six plants better than I expected But I know I need more soon and especially when it comes to flower. I was thinking of getting a 600 W CMH with my current cheap light on one side of it and the light I just mentioned (triple chip 1500w/ brand is yehsense) on the other side

Same shit different box or name. Its a 260w light, you will need probably 3-4 of them to light a 5x5. Add that wattage up and you have the same heat as a HPS but you can air cool a HPS and remove a 3rd of the heat.

Yes buy a 630 cmh. That's probably the best option.
The cheapest option is a 1000w HPS. Plus an air cooled hood.
All these cheap LEDs are not going to save you money by the time you have bought enough of them to avoid disappointing results.
If you add up the cost of 3-4 $150-$200 blurples to light up a 5x5 then where are you? Your $450-$800 dollars lighter with some unreliable lights that you will end up upgrading.

The only way to reduce heat by using LEDs is by using quality highly efficient ones which do actually produce more usable light for less watts. Even then your only talking about 1/4 -1/3 less power consumption with the most efficient ones.

You will have to excuse my ranting on, I love LEDs but I hate seeing people wasting money on product that wont perform and leave a grower with disappointing results.