It's Mueller Time

Bugeye

Bugeye

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Moses Mobetta said:
See me, if I'm innocent, I cooperate and get on with my life. What he did was drag the thing out costing the taxpayers more money and wasting more time of a valuable resource the FBI. I hope he rots in prison. Fuck republicans
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Trump could have strung this out far longer by making claims of executive privilege, he did not. When did Mueller know conspiracy with Russia was not chargeable?
 
topcat

topcat

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Bugeye said:
Trump has the resources to take on every one of those and tie them up in court for well past another term. You won’t get to a verdict on any of them. The finality of the Special Council being over is a big issue.
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So, you defend his obstruction, noted. Just airing out Trump's lies and deceit with televised hearings will be sufficient, no need for formal impeachment.
 
Bugeye

Bugeye

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Aussieaceae said:
Yes, innocent until proven guilty, and fortunate for him it's the right presumption to have. Still doesn't stop me from realizing the obvious though.



Unfortunately if you're an American it absolutely is your system, whether you like it or not.
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Haha, yes, fair point, it is the system I operate in, however I did not come up with it.
 
Bugeye

Bugeye

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topcat said:
So, you defend his obstruction, noted. Just airing out Trump's lies and deceit with televised hearings will be sufficient, no need for formal impeachment.
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Republicans would get onboard with impeachment if there were Trump collusion with Russia and Trump obstruction. With no collusion found it has the optics of a set up.
 
Aussieaceae

Aussieaceae

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Bugeye said:
Republicans would get onboard with impeachment if there were Trump collusion with Russia and Trump obstruction. With no collusion found it has the optics of a set up.
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Well they should be encouraging the House to conduct a thorough investigation, instead of bickering about it.

After all, Republicans are a part of the government system as well.
 
Bugeye

Bugeye

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Aussieaceae said:
Well they should be encouraging the House to conduct a thorough investigation, instead of bickering about it.

After all, Republicans are a part of the government system as well.
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You don’t seem to understand that republicans do not control Congress. They have the senate and dems have the house. Saying that they should cooperate with the people they suspect of spying on their party? Not gonna happen. That is obvious.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Bugeye said:
You don’t seem to understand that republicans do not control Congress. They have the senate and dems have the house. Saying that they should cooperate with the people they suspect of spying on their party? Not gonna happen. That is obvious.
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It wasn’t spying

It was a criminal investigation into trumps campaign

Half his campaign is sitting in federal prison now

Sad loser you are
 
Moses Mobetta

Moses Mobetta

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Gridlocking and stalling all on the dime and back of taxpayers isn't what we need. Fucking up our country isn't commendable behavior. It's mentally ill behavior. How much is this going to cost, why not just obey the law? Trump the con man criminal got caught trying to put one over and now we're going to have a pity party for the poor spoiled brat millionaire who couldn't get away with it. He is going to prison and I'm going to laugh while he's in there sulking and pouting
 
Aussieaceae

Aussieaceae

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Bugeye said:
Not gonna happen.
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But it should, that's what the constitution is for, so they can cooperate as a team.

You don't consider the large collective of all political parties to be the government, not exclusively those sitting in office? What kind of a democracy are you part of?

Bugeye said:
That is obvious.
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So if it's that obvious, then why isn't it a major concern?
 
Bugeye

Bugeye

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Aussieaceae said:
But it should, that's what the constitution is for, so they can cooperate as a team.

You don't consider the large collective of all political parties to be the government, not exclusively those sitting in office? What kind of a democracy are you part of?




So if it's that obvious, then why isn't it a major concern?
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No, the large collective of all the political parties is not government, it is our citizenry. We are running a representative democracy. We are a strongly divided country at this time, on our third or fourth divisive president. So it goes.
 
squarepush3r

squarepush3r

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TacoMac said:
Wrong. As usual.

The IRS has them. Under law, the IRS can't divulge what's in them to anyone. They also can't target them for review.

The NSA has no standing or jurisdiction, nor does the CIA or FBI.

You're beyond delusional with the complete bullshit you make up.

Why do you think Trump's fighting so very hard to keep them secret if they were vetted clean, dumb-dumb?
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Considering the Mueller report came up clean and absolved Trump/campaign on Russia collusion, then you have no basis for requesting his tax records.

Its basically just been a 3 year opposition research campaign with presumption of guilt, which is not how the law works in America.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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squarepush3r said:
Considering the Mueller report came up clean and absolved Trump/campaign on Russia collusion
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didn't mueller say manafort lied to him about sharing internal polling data with russian spies?

and that roger stone coordinated the release, timing, and promotion of stolen american materials with russia-owned wikileaks?

and that russians contacted don jnior to have his daddy promote wikileaks, and he did 10 minutes later?and then 160+ times in the last month of the election?
 
squarepush3r

squarepush3r

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UncleBuck said:
didn't mueller say manafort lied to him about sharing internal polling data with russian spies?

and that roger stone coordinated the release, timing, and promotion of stolen american materials with russia-owned wikileaks?

and that russians contacted don jnior to have his daddy promote wikileaks, and he did 10 minutes later?and then 160+ times in the last month of the election?
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Source that Russia owns Wikileaks? Notice how you have to create fictional premises to attempt to make an argument?

Either way, Mueller report clears Trump of collusion, the only debate now is if Trump "obstructed" which some people believe congress should impeach Trump for it.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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squarepush3r said:
Mueller report clears Trump of collusion
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didn't mueller say manafort lied to him about sharing internal polling data with russian spies?

and that roger stone coordinated the release, timing, and promotion of stolen american materials with russia-owned wikileaks?

and that russians contacted don jnior to have his daddy promote wikileaks, and he did 10 minutes later?and then 160+ times in the last month of the election?
 
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