Or_Gro
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Lemme make you feel worse...no...lucky for me!!!
But, plenty of people like seedsman....
Epic 4x4 Flowering Smackdown : 96 Elites vs 288s
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But, plenty of people like seedsman....
Steakbomb
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That they are very comparable?
Frank Cannon
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That OG is gonna get a wasted?
Or_Gro
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Comparable wts, yes...but that’s only half of it...
Or_Gro
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That is some of the most potent reef you’ve ever seen....and is gonna be transformed to bubble hash, then rosin...
Steakbomb
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Fewer big buds from the 96s, more small buds from the 288s. Do you chalk that up to the lights or a difference in training?
Between this and the other 2 wet weight posts it didn't look like one type of light had completely dominated the other...
Or_Gro
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I bought 288s as retail fixtures for about $1400 iirc, but you can diy them easy for much less, the 96s are ~ $175each if you diy with one driver per light, you can do multiple lights on single appropriately sized driver....supplementals also add cost, 288 setup has more.
Off top of my head, 96 set up is cheaper initial cost, but more expensive electrical cost...288 setup running 800w for 1050ppfd, 96 setup running 1000w for 1050ppfd.
icetech
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Ah, thanks for the nfo
Norml56
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Actually surprised there was that much bud in those Jack Herer plants. It was really hiding under all that leaf. Seems like the 288 boards do produce more Leaf/larf. I've lucked out on Genetics so far.
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Or_Gro
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I was shocked, but when i analyze it, i was feeling small hard pistil/flower clusters...the buds are made up of these separated by lots of trich covered leaves, hence the bigger than expected “buds” (still smaller and less dense than the other strains). This is way more likely the pheno than the lights.
I like the 96s better myself, despite the added electrical usage, but it would be a stretch to say, that the 288s produce signif more leaves/larf...
Bottom line for me: at least for this “scrog”-like training, 96s produce somewhat fewer but bigger buds, with about same total bud weight yield as supplemented 288s, at a higher electrical usage.
I have tried to measure bud hardness, so i could quantify for comparison...have failed so far...i tend to think 96s are slightly harder than supplemented 288s.
Tho i haven’t done the side-by-side, imo, 96s would beat UNsupplemented 288s hands down. Prob part of the reason hlg is introducing 288r...and i hope to demonstrate in my upcoming slapdown, that 96s kick big bootay during veg....
I’m getting sick of the extra work to keep these side-by-sides comparable, but will be doing another one to help out a bud....i really want to do a hps vs white led slapdown, but haven’t grown under mh-hps since the late 80s....so i’m prob not the right guy to do the hps part justice, and i need a f#ckin break...
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Steakbomb
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Too bad Schplakken isn't on RIU - you could do a comparative grow w him for hps vs led
Or_Gro
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Yep thats what the jack herer and green crack were supposed to do, but he got started ahead ofbme and the gc mods decided that a troll’s right to be treated politically correct, in my own thread, was more important than my contribution...
Kinda got that same feeling here,, cept this time it was the rights of the mod to ignore my notifications for 4-5 hours before cursing at me and lying about the response time and the amount of work they had to do to resolve the problem...give people some power, they get a bigass ego...and that “i’m a volunteer” bs doesn’t hold water w me either...you don’t like your job, get another...
But i digress....
I don’t pay much heed to comparison grows done by diff people under diff setups...imo, these lights are too high performance, need to keep things as identical as possible, except for the variable being tested....
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Or_Gro
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They (ryante55 and a mongo frog) had some small-time fun here, but the real issue was that ryante55 had trolled me earlier, to the point that i almost didn’t finish posting my 96 mapping results.
I try to be a good person, but have zero tolerance for taking crap a second time....
Like everyone else, i post for my enjoyment ...it’s also therapy for me...but the main reason i post is to help others...especially those w health issues or the people who supply them...
I doubt that cannabis helps cure cancer, but i know it can help with appetite, nausea, pain, sleep...to the point where it doesn’t turn a person into an opiod zombie during the last years/weeks of their lives...wish i woulda had the knowledge i now have, to have helped my wife even more than i did....
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Norml56
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I believe he runs all CMH. I run one 315wawt CMH alongside 4 288's in my 5x5. I honestly think the CMH would put up a good fight. The intensity isn't quite there compared to the 288's and/or 96's, but I notice a lot more trichs on the plants directly under the CMH. I run 2700k QB's and the CMH is 3100k. I'd like to see what these 1k DE CMH bulbs could do.
Or_Gro
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Btw, steak, say hi to splakken for me...he’s a good guy, t think about him all the time, just like s2c...
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