Ethos Banana Hammock comparative(exodus thread)

3rd Monkey said:
You have plenty of nitrogen, almost to tox.

You can back off on the calcium a bit, keep mag the same. That'll drop your N a bit too so the mag can catch up. If any signs of calcium def show up, you'll know it's your all purpose to back off on just a tad. Put calcium back to where you had it and drop all purpose by about 60-70 ppm.

This is if it doesn't fix itself.
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Word I’ll do that on my reservoir Fill tomorrow.
 
Thanks for the reassurance guys. Sorry I’m so sketched about it. What I see on the surface is abysmal. You guys know what’s going on underneath way more than me so I’ll trust your judgement. Keep doing what I’m doing and it’ll be fine ay?

PPM hasn’t went down...... stays about 130-147. Is it not eating or?
 
Smokexbreak said:
Word I’ll do that on my reservoir Fill tomorrow.
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You don't have to do it yet. If it doesn't straighten out, then try it.

I don't know how it progressed to there but here's my thinking.

That all purpose is very high K. Calcium nitrate is high N and Ca. Your mag isn't holding because of the high levels of Ca and K.

If I'm right, reducing Ca will either fix it or give you a Ca def. If you get a Ca def, putting it back and dropping your K will give the other 2 a fighting chance.

Guess Magnesium will be today's trivia lol. Micro-nutrients are always the most easily misused because they are misunderstood. Calcium and magnesium are both macro-nutrients in my mind. They just label them micros because of the concentrations in comparison to NPK.
 
Moabfighter said:
Thanks for the reassurance guys. Sorry I’m so sketched about it. What I see on the surface is abysmal. You guys know what’s going on underneath way more than me so I’ll trust your judgement. Keep doing what I’m doing and it’ll be fine ay?

PPM hasn’t went down...... stays about 130-147. Is it not eating or?
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Your ppm isn't going to fluctuate very much at this point other than temps.
 
3rd Monkey said:
You don't have to do it yet. If it doesn't straighten out, then try it.

I don't know how it progressed to there but here's my thinking.

That all purpose is very high K. Calcium nitrate is high N and Ca. Your mag isn't holding because of the high levels of Ca and K.

If I'm right, reducing Ca will either fix it or give you a Ca def. If you get a Ca def, putting it back and dropping your K will give the other 2 a fighting chance.

Guess Magnesium will be today's trivia lol. Micro-nutrients are always the most easily misused because they are misunderstood. Calcium and magnesium are both macro-nutrients in my mind. They just label them micros because of the concentrations in comparison to NPK.
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I see what you’re saying. Makes sense to me.
 
@Or_Gro

When you flush in DWC... if you couldn’t get your ppm below 250ppm for the flush (due to the plants actually being submerged hempy smart pots upgraded to DWC, and the perlite/vermiculite mix holding onto nutrients? (Or possibly just due to a growth of some sort Inside the pots where I can’t really do anything...)

Anyways long story short my ppm stayed at about 250 ppm through the entire one week flush

Is that useless? They were feeding for months at 600-1000ppm...

Guess what I’m asking is do I need to get it even lower in order for it to properly flush?

Figured when I came home they would be all yellow and they are certainly not they are still dark green
 
ClydeWalters said:
@Or_Gro

When you flush in DWC... if you couldn’t get your ppm below 250ppm for the flush (due to the plants actually being submerged hempy smart pots upgraded to DWC, and the perlite/vermiculite mix holding onto nutrients? (Or possibly just due to a growth of some sort Inside the pots where I can’t really do anything...)

Anyways long story short my ppm stayed at about 250 ppm through the entire one week flush

Is that useless? They were feeding for months at 600-1000ppm...

Guess what I’m asking is do I need to get it even lower in order for it to properly flush?

Figured when I came home they would be all yellow and they are certainly not they are still dark green
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They need to fade/finish. Go buy 0ppm distilled water like you used to and use it to flush with.
 
3rd monkey where did you gather your info from? The easy answer is piecing stuff together here and there but come on...: you never taken a class on the subject or anything? This thread is full of valuable information from a lot of different hands. Can’t wsit to go back and read eventually.
 
3rd Monkey said:
Same reason you wouldn't load up a plant that size in soil. Right now, its uptake is very little. It's only got enough green for a small amount of photosynthesis, and even less green that's actually able to produce with the burn.
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Money answer right there. I like it a lot. Thanks for that info. Was just wondering. Makes sense. Kind of a dumb question to have asked really.... it’s a tiny sprout. It don’t need much.
 
Moabfighter said:
3rd monkey where did you gather your info from? The easy answer is piecing stuff together here and there but come on...: you never taken a class on the subject or anything? This thread is full of valuable information from a lot of different hands. Can’t wsit to go back and read eventually.
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I grew up farming, so I had a good base. Then, I started growing weed, ran into an old head at work. Started swapping bud and then he took me under his wing.

I had a good teacher, but no formal education.

Most of this just comes as you fuck plants up. I've ruined plants just to see what does what, good thing about breeding, plenty to play with.
 
Moabfighter said:
I read it too and wish I could understand it better.
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Basically, they are referring to the relationship between P, K, and Ca.

P being the inner cell, Ca being its cell walls, and K as a transport to move things between cells.

Then it goes on to explain how K is the transport because it opens the stomata to allow for respiration, and in turn, transpiration.

K makes shit move in the plant, Ca holds shit in the cells, P keeps the cells running.
 
3rd Monkey said:
Basically, they are referring to the relationship between P, K, and Ca.

P being the inner cell, Ca being its cell walls, and K as a transport to move things between cells.

Then it goes on to explain how K is the transport because it opens the stomata to allow for respiration, and in turn, transpiration.

K makes shit move in the plant, Ca holds shit in the cells, P keeps the cells running.
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That’s damn good explanation. And to piggy back off the nutrient of the day yesterday here’s the one for today.

Magnesium


https://www.marijuanatimes.org/why-your-cannabis-plant-needs-magnesium/


Calmag

https://www.maximumyield.com/cal-mag-supplements-a-one-two-punch-for-plants/2/2649


https://www.maximumyield.com/are-all-calcium-magnesium-supplements-alike/2/1263


Calcium uptake

https://www.maximumyield.com/how-to-boost-the-calcium-levels-in-your-hydroponic-system/2/3317
 
ClydeWalters said:
@Or_Gro

When you flush in DWC... if you couldn’t get your ppm below 250ppm for the flush (due to the plants actually being submerged hempy smart pots upgraded to DWC, and the perlite/vermiculite mix holding onto nutrients? (Or possibly just due to a growth of some sort Inside the pots where I can’t really do anything...)

Anyways long story short my ppm stayed at about 250 ppm through the entire one week flush

Is that useless? They were feeding for months at 600-1000ppm...

Guess what I’m asking is do I need to get it even lower in order for it to properly flush?

Figured when I came home they would be all yellow and they are certainly not they are still dark green
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Unless they are dried out or beyond your trich color threshold, keep flushing, only improves tastability.

if you need it now, really doesn’t matter, you harvest...
 
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