Ethos Banana Hammock comparative(exodus thread)

[ClydeWalters]

Sounds like a lot lol. I never changed my res everyday though.

Just curious, but why do you have to measure 6 times a bucket?

Because I use a range of tester products, and I’m in the habit of PH’ing after I add in a new nute

Aka... add MegaCrop

Read ppm then PH

Add Canna PK

Read ppm then PH

Gives me a feel for how heavy every nutrient is and how it affects the pH by itself

I don’t know it’s just how I’ve always done it

That sounds like a super excessive or something? It’s literally the only way I know how

 

[ClydeWalters]

Nutes don't evaporate. When they drink more water, the nutes become concentrated.

That's why you check ppm. Then you know if they are drinking more or feeding more, so then you know how and what to adjust.

I deal with this all the time

I larger flowering plants they drink their water up faster than they take up their nutrients so my ppm goes over 1000 all the time

Which is why I am in my buckets daily

 

[3rd Monkey]

Because I use a range of tester products, and I’m in the habit of PH’ing after I add in a new nute

Aka... add MegaCrop

Read ppm then PH

Add Canna PK

Read ppm then PH

Gives me a feel for how heavy every nutrient is and how it affects the pH by itself

I don’t know it’s just how I’ve always done it

That sounds like a super excessive or something? It’s literally the only way I know how

That's a lot of extra ph'ing for nothing in my opinion.

I would just add them all in, stirring each one in, and then ph.

It's working for you, just seems like extra work lol.

 

[Or_Gro]

That's a lot of extra ph'ing for nothing in my opinion.

I would just add them all in, stirring each one in, and then ph.

It's working for you, just seems like extra work lol.

If you’re adding the stuff at same time, just pH after it’s all in....

If you’re adding stuff at diff times during day, ask yourself why...if you come up with a good answer, then pH after you do that bunch of additions...

 

[3rd Monkey]

If you’re adding the stuff at same time, just pH after it’s all in....

If you’re adding stuff at diff times during day, ask yourself why...if you come up with a good answer, then pH after you do that bunch of additions...

Lol. I concur.

 

[ClydeWalters]

If you’re adding the stuff at same time, just pH after it’s all in....

If you’re adding stuff at diff times during day, ask yourself why...if you come up with a good answer, then pH after you do that bunch of additions...

No I do it all at once

When I say I PH six different times, I just mean I’m reading it with my meter not adjusting it with pH up and down LOL

I guess I just like to see how the megacrop changes the PPM versus how my canna PK changes the PPM which are two totally different stories the megacrop is completely 10 times heavier than the Canna PK

I guess that’s what I meant by that

You guys are saying I can just dump everything in my bucket that I want to be in there and mix it all up and then pH once at the end and read my ppm once at the end?

Idk, i’d be playing the guessing game until I get to the PPM I want I guess that’s just how I’ve always done it

I also have three different size DWC buckets which changes all my ratios

 

[3rd Monkey]

No I do it all at once

When I say I PH six different times, I just mean I’m reading it with my meter not adjusting it with pH up and down LOL

I guess I just like to see how the megacrop changes the PPM versus how my canna PK changes the PPM which are two totally different stories the megacrop is completely 10 times heavier than the Canna PK

I guess that’s what I meant by that

You guys are saying I can just dump everything in my bucket that I want to be in there and mix it all up and then pH once at the end and read my ppm once at the end?

Idk, i’d be playing the guessing game until I get to the PPM I want I guess that’s just how I’ve always done it

I also have three different size DWC buckets which changes all my ratios

If you're on your feeding schedule, you should know most of it by heart now to get close to ppm.

You can do it any way you want, it's working good for you.

I just believe in fluctuation. I don't think I've ever fed the same ppm twice lol. May not be spot on, but close enough for government work.

You're doing solid work, just saying that maybe your light leaves are from it being TOO perfect, if that makes sense.

 

[3rd Monkey]

Example.

If you were diligently monitoring ph, keeping it at 5.8 for 3 days straight. That might be enough to lock out mag for that plant, whereas others aren't affected.

 

[Or_Gro]

No I do it all at once

When I say I PH six different times, I just mean I’m reading it with my meter not adjusting it with pH up and down LOL

I guess I just like to see how the megacrop changes the PPM versus how my canna PK changes the PPM which are two totally different stories the megacrop is completely 10 times heavier than the Canna PK

I guess that’s what I meant by that

You guys are saying I can just dump everything in my bucket that I want to be in there and mix it all up and then pH once at the end and read my ppm once at the end?

Idk, i’d be playing the guessing game until I get to the PPM I want I guess that’s just how I’ve always done it

I also have three different size DWC buckets which changes all my ratios

I didn’t say anything about ppm....

And i don’t see anything wrong about reading your pH or ppm meters....read until your eyeballs fall out.....just no need to pH each time you add a diff item...

As for how to mix, you gotta be careful...there usually is a preferred way to mix items depending on characteristics, like form (solid, powder, liquid), solubility, compatibility, etc. One of my nutes must always be added first and mixed in by itself, others in a specific order...

So add your chems as directed, pH after they are in, add hg/gff/microbes (if any) after that.

 

[iceman2494]

So In a sense letting ph fluctuate back up helps the cal be more absorb when it hits the 6.1 range ? Versus just keeping your ph at 5.8 all day ?

 

[3rd Monkey]

So In a sense letting ph fluctuate back up helps the cal be more absorb when it hits the 6.1 range ? Versus just keeping your ph at 5.8 all day ?

Exactly. It's plant dependent though, the ph guidelines are just that, guidelines.

 

[iceman2494]

So safe to drop your ph in the morning and let it climb up to 6.1 during the day?

 

[Smokexbreak]

@Soil2Coco is there a specific order I’m supposed to be mixing these masterblend nutes in?

Good looking out @Or_Gro I didn’t t even think about that with my 3-part. I haven’t had much issue to date but I guess that’s still good info to know.

I mix my silica blast in first and then my nutes and then my Hydroguard/recharge/mammoth P depending on plant maturity.

 

[Smokexbreak]

So safe to drop your ph in the morning and let it climb up to 6.1 during the day?

Yes take advantage of the PH swing to get hit all different PH’s for the plant to take in Nutes the most efficiently.

Like my coco DTW I go 5.8 next days 5.9 the following is 6.0 and so on going no higher than 6.2 and then I start over.

 

[Or_Gro]

So safe to drop your ph in the morning and let it climb up to 6.1 during the day?

Only if you guessed right on how much and in what direction it will go...better to set it where you want it and deal with the drift.

It doesn’t always move how you might guess...why risk it?

 

[Or_Gro]

So In a sense letting ph fluctuate back up helps the cal be more absorb when it hits the 6.1 range ? Versus just keeping your ph at 5.8 all day ?

If you kept it constant at 5.8, you theoretically would not get cal-mag, since their availability begins above 6....google nutrient availability pH dwc

 

[iceman2494]

Can’t comment on that till I actually drop nutes in I guess . Ideally I’d set it in 5.8 or so in the am and check again late afternoon and reset it to 5.8 again and so forth ? How frequent am I putting in southern ag ?

 

[iceman2494]

Kinda confused now.

 

[Smokexbreak]

Kinda confused now.

Look at the different nutes and what PH they are best taken in at. You want the fluctuation so that each nutrient at some point during the drift will be taken up at its best matching PH.

 

[3rd Monkey]

Kinda confused now.

Your ph will swing, sometimes up, sometimes down. Environment, nutes, plant maturity etc all effect the swing.

My example was just an example, not how every plant or system is.