Ethos Banana Hammock comparative(exodus thread)

Or_Gro

Or_Gro

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schmebulock said:
if you can swing the cash, a pH controller may be your next step. I invested in a $300 one from bluelab when I upgraded to a trash can for my reservoir. Never have to fuck with it again once the nutes are in. Early on it did take some calibrating, how much pH fluid to drip each time, etc etc.
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I have 4 bluelab guardians, absolutely top quality, long-life product. I hear their truncheon is good too. Well worth the price...keep the electrodes wet at all times...few mins to an hour not wet will be ok, but not days..
 
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Moabfighter

Moabfighter

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3rd Monkey said:
The tub will be fine once it stabilizes. 48-72hrs is my benchmark.

It'll hit a point where it won't swing much. That's what you're looking for, then add nutes and ph... Then wait again.

You don't have roots in water right now, so this is the part to dial in.
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Is there any chance my PH will be HIGHER when I get home? Or from 6.1 to 5.4 will it automatically continue to decline if I didn’t add anything

Trying to “understand” the swing so I can plan accordingly how to be proactive about it.
 
Or_Gro

Or_Gro

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schmebulock said:
needs pH solution, you can provide your own or get some quart size bottles. has a pump, left side goes into the feed bottle, right side goes to your reservoir. Set your pH to 5.8 or w/e you want (i'm using 5.8 for d2w coco). Check on it the first couple of days because you could come back and it will say "HELP" meaning it can't control the pH with the current settings. Increase your drip time from 1 second drips to 2 second drips and it completely resolved my "HELP" issues.
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Which prod is that?
 
3rd Monkey

3rd Monkey

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Moabfighter said:
Is there any chance my PH will be HIGHER when I get home? Or from 6.1 to 5.4 will it automatically continue to decline if I didn’t add anything

Trying to “understand” the swing so I can plan accordingly how to be proactive about it.
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Everybody's water is different. Mine comes out at 6.8 on average and will hit 7.4 by 48hrs. You're also dissolving oxygen in yours, so you'll just have to monitor it and figure your swing.

This is the most drawn out part of the process so you can get your numbers down and KNOW what you're working with.
 
Or_Gro

Or_Gro

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Moabfighter said:
Reading back. I now see you were alluding to get a smaller tub....

I’m a little gullible and you kinda gotta look and me and lay down the law. “Dude your tub is wayyyyyy too big for a rookie. Get one way smaller”

I’ll take those kinda of answers all day. It’s what I need to succeed.
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Ok then:
Dude you gotta get up early every fucking morning and love your girls!

Did it work?
 
Or_Gro

Or_Gro

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Moabfighter said:
Is there any chance my PH will be HIGHER when I get home? Or from 6.1 to 5.4 will it automatically continue to decline if I didn’t add anything

Trying to “understand” the swing so I can plan accordingly how to be proactive about it.
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I haven’t learned how to predict it...has to do with whether plants are drinking, transporting nutes, particular element they are needing at that time, microbes, bubbles, yada yada yada...
 
ClydeWalters

ClydeWalters

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Yea
Smokexbreak said:
Only way to find out isn’t try man. But from what I’m reading from Or_Grow is your huge tub is going to cause you more issues then using a smaller tub/ bucket. It’s easier to stabilize liquid in smaller amounts vs trying to stabilize a large amount of water.
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Go with the black 6 gallon to start maybe? To get dialed in?

Then go 13-17gakkon totes!
 
ClydeWalters

ClydeWalters

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Yea
Smokexbreak said:
Only way to find out isn’t try man. But from what I’m reading from Or_Grow is your huge tub is going to cause you more issues then using a smaller tub/ bucket. It’s easier to stabilize liquid in smaller amounts vs trying to stabilize a large amount of water.
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Go with the black 6 gallon to start maybe? To get dialed in?

Then go 13-17gallon totes!
 
3rd Monkey

3rd Monkey

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Or_Gro said:
I haven’t learned how to predict it...has to do with whether plants are drinking, transporting nutes, particular element they are needing at that time, microbes, bubbles, yada yada yada...
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In plain water, it has mostly to do with releasing carbonic acids (CO2), the mineral content, and whether or not you're dissolving oxygen into the water, which will add CO2 with the oxygen.

Plain water SHOULD stabilize after a period of time. I say should because I've seen some shitty plain water.
 
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GrowerAnonymous

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Or_Gro said:
I have 4 bluelab guardians, absolutely top quality, long-life product. I hear their truncheon is good too. Well worth the price...keep the electrodes wet at all times...few mins to an hour not wet will be ok, but not days..
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I have their truncheon, its excellent. They make super good products.
 
schmebulock

schmebulock

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Or_Gro said:
Which prod is that?
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i can't link, but amazon search for this:

" Bluelab-CONTPH-Controller-Monitoring-Solution "

Got mine on sale, it was closer to $300 at the time

I also have the truncheon - love that thing. The truncheon sensors don't need to always be wet, it's just a PPM/TDS sensor.

The pH sensor on my controller, if that goes dry it's a costly mistake.. like $70 or $80 to replace iirc.

 
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