Ethos Banana Hammock comparative(exodus thread)

[Moabfighter]

Having a fill line reference of some sort (even on a dipstick) will speed up topping.

I’d expect a big enuff to adjust pH swing, can’t guess which way...

So that’s normal and to be expected daily? Just fix it to proper PH and move on. Fix it again next day?

 

[Smokexbreak]

Looks like 66.4 is your lucky number...

Nice @Smokexbreak i like that trichome info.

Can you drop some science on making them amber? Wait longer.... I let an auto go 5 months once to test that. Minimal amber.... it’s frustrating. Trying to get glued to the couch.

I’ve read ambering is strain/pheno dependent. Some strains/phenos just don’t really amber. There’s a lot of differing info on it out there.

 

[BigOleNugs19]

These are 3500k 288s with 660nm supplement, similar spectrum concept as a 96e with less blue.

Plain ole v2 288s are a little redder (3000k), but the 288r has more deep red bringing it to 3150K with better mix of red and deep red. So throretically somewhat better than reg 288 v2.

My pov is that this is a partial step up, in that it reduces the need for supppemental deep red during flowering, and eliminates a driver and plug for the deep red.

I currently add a qb 35 (red, deep red, far red) per pair of 288 v2s as red supplement for emerson effect and a separate far red bar for initiator effect, both effects boost photosynthesis during flowering.

If i were to do a flowering smackdown, i’d pair 288 r with far red vs 288 v2 with 35 and far red to get both effects with both configs. The grow would show how close they are.

I won’t be comparing them, cuz i think the diffs would be marginal. Imo, would just come down to price of each config.

I’m currently running a smackdown of 96e w far red vs 288 with 35 and far red. There are some diffs, but looks like will be close enuff for horseshoes, curling, grenades...

So if I am getting you right, these new ligjts will probably be very comparable to the qb96s? Im just wondering if I should stick with my original plan to get another 4x qb96s for the other half of my 8x4 or should I go with theae new lights. I should probably just wait til people bring out par tests and recommended setups for a 4x4 for flowering and go from there.

 

[Or_Gro]

So that’s normal and to be expected daily? Just fix it to proper PH and move on. Fix it again next day?

Yep, Tho same topping water batch eventually swings less and less...but plants need it and you have to make more...starts cycle over again.

 

[Or_Gro]

So if I am getting you right, these new ligjts will probably be very comparable to the qb96s? Im just wondering if I should stick with my original plan to get another 4x qb96s for the other half of my 8x4 or should I go with theae new lights. I should probably just wait til people bring out par tests and recommended setups for a 4x4 for flowering and go from there.

If no rush, 2 things: wait another month or so to see diff between 96e vs 288v2 in my grow, see what 288r owners have to say.

If you can’t wait, price out my 288 config vs same number bds of 288r w far red supplement...i bet they're all close on yield when you supplement, 96 and 288r prob similar, but better yield than 288 v2 without supplementation.

 

[Smokexbreak]

If no rush, 2 things: wait another month or so to see diff between 99 vs 288v2 in my grow, see what 288r owners have to say.

If you can’t wait, price out my 288 config vs same number bds of 288r w far red supplement...i bet they're all close when you supplement, 96 and 288r prob similar but better than 288 v2 without supplementation.

What’s your thoughts on the sabers?

 

[BigOleNugs19]

If no rush, 2 things: wait another month or so to see diff between 99 vs 288v2 in my grow, see what 288r owners have to say.

If you can’t wait, price out my 288 config vs same number bds of 288r w far red supplement...i bet they're all close when you supplement, 96 and 288r prob similar but better than 288 v2 without supplementation.

I am waiting atleast a month. I actually am running 2 qb288v2s in my veg tent powered by a 240h. The 96s were too powerful for the smaller vegging plants even when dimmed. I think I am still following your grow on gc. Gonna keep my grow journal going there for my own purposes and follow a few personal journals. Other than that Im gonna stay away from GC.
Edit: just noticed you left GC. Im following your thread on here!

 

[Or_Gro]

What’s your thoughts on the sabers?

Haven’t looked at them, maybe tomorra

 

[Or_Gro]

I am waiting atleast a month. I actually am running 2 qb288v2s in my veg tent powered by a 240h. The 96s were too powerful for the smaller vegging plants even when dimmed. I think I am still following your grow on gc. Gonna keep my grow journal going there for my own purposes and follow a few personal journals. Other than that Im gonna stay away from GC.
Edit: just noticed you left GC. Im following your thread on here!

Well basically i have 4 pairs of your exact 288 config, one over each plant.; along w four 35s and a far red bar...

I’m running 6 96es along with a far red bar in the other tent

 

[BigOleNugs19]

Well basically i have 4 pairs of your exact 288 config, one over each plant.; along w four 35s and a far red bar...

I’m running 6 96es along with a far red bar in the other tent

Good lord... 8 288s with supplemental lighting? Are you pushing 1000w or are you running them all dimmed?

 

[GrowerAnonymous]

Do you have a pic brother? Super curious. Heard 4week veg was waste of time. But you say 9-10 made monsters?

Hell, no the longer you veg the bigger and better u can train a plant.. im a fan of a long veg. Problem i have is i dont have a big enough space for a nice long veg and my hand gets forced into flipping.

 

[GrowerAnonymous]

So you’d lollipop after stretch huh.

I usually would go before flower. Basing where the bud sites would be off the leaf points of the lowers. Figured lollipop after stretch woildnstunt but appears not lol thanks for the info. Will try it.

I go before and after. Final clean up, then remove a handful of leaves daily to stop congestion.

 

[Moabfighter]

Ph at 5.4 this morning. Now what?

 

[iceman2494]

Idk . Not like you have plants in so the ppm should be the same?

 

[ClydeWalters]

Just keep playing with that bucket of water Moab

Watch how your pH swings and in which direction

So note how long between when you made up that bucket and when the swing occurred that you noticed. Write that stuff down

If you’re using good clean water you shouldn’t be getting a major swing until you’ve actually got roots and bacteria and stuff going on in your res

Then swing happens more readily

 

[ClydeWalters]

I highly recommend something other than MEGACRAP 2.0 (yes I said megaCRAP) for the Deepwater culture guys

NTox City With young plants... idk not a great nute to “learn” with

Go with the master blend or something tried and true (MaxiBloom does work well)

 

[Or_Gro]

Good lord... 8 288s with supplemental lighting? Are you pushing 1000w or are you running them all dimmed?

288s are putting out 1000ppfd at ~24” at ~775w; 96s same at ~950w....

 

[Or_Gro]

Ph at 5.4 this morning. Now what?

Bump it back up...this is normal..

 

[JonathanT]

Oh organic soil how i love not testing anything.

 

[3rd Monkey]

Heavy frost this morning. Hope it was the last one, these bitches need to go outside. Did the same thing last year and fucked up my apple trees. Only got half the apples I usually get.